List Mgmt. 2020 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread

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List Mgmt. - 2020 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread - Part 2

This Part 2 Continued from Part 1: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2020-list-management-free-agency-trade-thread.1241035/ What type of players does our list need? Pace, Skill, Class and and goal threat. A winger, forward flank and forward pocket are the 3 positions that we need, plus...

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[mr.11]

What's realistic with Pick 12?

 

[Taylor]

What's realistic with Pick 12?

Denver GB, Burhn, O'Driscoll, Chapman, henry, Perkins, Cox, Reid, McCrae, Trew, Carroll, Powell, Poulter, Ford, Callow

 

[Joao]

Denver GB, Burhn, O'Driscoll, Chapman, henry, Perkins, Cox, Reid, McCrae, Trew, Carroll, Powell, Poulter, Ford, Callow

I'll go early and say DGB no chance and Bruhn not far behind.

 

[Bring back Drum]

There was media talk about Alex. Can't see it with Mason.

If we’re looking at these names, might as well look at Wylie Buzza

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Wylie Buzza

Age

29

Ht

199cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.1

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.7

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.8

4star

as a rookie. Few good games at Geelong, rookied at Port, but I think dropped off again because of list size.
Showed a bit & might mature with age, but at least would be a target & give us coverage.

 

[DockerRestump]

There was media talk about Alex. Can't see it with Mason.

Jimmy Miller from South? https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/buzz-about-exmouth-boy-ng-ya-130761

 

[Vimal Anand]

Denver GB, Burhn, O'Driscoll, Chapman, henry, Perkins, Cox, Reid, McCrae, Trew, Carroll, Powell, Poulter, Ford, Callow

Cook?

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[Scham]

I'll go early and say DGB no chance and Bruhn not far behind.

Plus add Cook

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

My preference for draft night at this stage is to go for Cox, if he gets picked before us (big chance IMO with Essendon) then I'd have some live trade options ready to get a couple of picks around 20 and take both Baldwin (low low floor, high ceiling) and Callow (high floor, low ceiling)

 

[Jebus18]

Perfect, serious speed and I am conditioned to our midfielders kicking over the head of a 5ft tall leading forward. I wonder if he can lose his feet on command?

Im sure we can coach that into him

 

[arsesmart]

I want a ban on people wanting a ban on people suggesting one of Pearce, Hamling, Cox or Logue should play forward. We have tried so many times for the "messiah trade" for a KPF and anything we can draft with our picks will be years away from delivering - let's develop one of our own.

EDIT:

We could try this guy - he fits the age profile and is perfect size for a KPF.

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I'd be wary of messing with Cox's mojo after he's just got established in the team in that defensive role he's talked about being much more comfortable in. Maybe after another season (or if desperate half a season) to really consolidate and have him feel like he belongs at the level. I'd be more inclined for Logue (if fit) to go in the midfield and have extra rotations of Fyfe, Mundy as extra taller options for at least next season.

 

[Van_Dyke]

My preference for draft night at this stage is to go for Cox, if he gets picked before us (big chance IMO with Essendon) then I'd have some live trade options ready to get a couple of picks around 20 and take both Baldwin (low low floor, high ceiling) and Callow (high floor, low ceiling)

if we can't i'd be all for getting someone like Ford/Perkins if still there, to get another dangerous forward option (even if not as tall as hoped) to add with Sturt/Henry/maybe Frederick

 

[Cesoir]

I'd be wary of messing with Cox's mojo after he's just got established in the team in that defensive role he's talked about being much more comfortable in. Maybe after another season (or if desperate half a season) to really consolidate and have him feel like he belongs at the level. I'd be more inclined for Logue (if fit) to go in the midfield and have extra rotations of Fyfe, Mundy as extra taller options for at least next season.

Yeah, quite possibly arsesmart - I think either / both of them would be worth a try. I like Cox there because other than his set shot kicking for goal I thought he was outstanding as a forward in 2018 - and hopefully his kicking will have improved! I also believe that all of Pearce, Hamling and Logue are better defensive options than Cox, but that is just based on "dem feels"

I just think we need to try things out next year when (if) we have too many tall defenders and not enough tall forwards.

 

[arsesmart]

Yeah, quite possibly arsesmart - I think either / both of them would be worth a try. I like Cox there because other than his set shot kicking for goal I thought he was outstanding as a forward in 2018 - and hopefully his kicking will have improved! I also believe that all of Pearce, Hamling and Logue are better defensive options than Cox, but that is just based on "dem feels"

I just think we need to try things out next year when (if) we have too many tall defenders and not enough tall forwards.

Maybe having them all available to all be out on the park at once might be a little more unlikely than likely next year, but if the case then developing Cox in defence would also have value for the team. His potential offers something like if Pearce and Ryan accidentally stepped into a teleportation machine together and fused varying attributes into one person. There's definitely merit in the idea, but probably could use a little more established development on his current path I reckon to shore things up, before deviating to other challenges.

 

[CapitalA]

I thought that this was the good news story??

Looking forward to sitting back with the popcorn and watching the drama unfold around other clubs for a change.

The other clubs for a change? We just made one of the biggest losses and worst trades in the modern era. hate to break it to you but we are the ones being watched while people eat their popcorn with this move.

 

[G Mus]

Surely Mundy going around again is no significant impact on the salary cap. Wouldn't a portion of his salary be covered as a part of the vet list?

Front-ending of contracts might be the biggest factor in the current salary cap space (if true). It's fuller now but eases as the years roll on (in theory), allowing a war chest for re-signings and potential poaching.

Vet list doesn’t exist anymore

 

[Joao]

Thought this was interesting. We do have a clear WA bias after all. Not quite as big as WC, but still twice that of any outside of the state.

 

[apuchar]

Jimmy Miller from South? https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/buzz-about-exmouth-boy-ng-ya-130761

Intersting read. Would like to know what his results were
I saw him in the final. Big guy that isn't a great set shot usually but kicked a good one. Not a great sample size but he doesn't look agile enough. Happy for others to have an input here.

 

[Joao]

Intersting read. Would like to know what his results were
I saw him in the final. Big guy that isn't a great set shot usually but kicked a good one. Not a great sample size but he doesn't look agile enough. Happy for others to have an input here.

Hale coach Jason Norrish, who played 128 games for the Dockers, described Miller as a mobile key forward with a good, long kick and a great set of hands.

Sounds good, get him on the list.

Edit: Just realised that article is 5 years old. I changed my mind.

 

[nurries]

Intersting read. Would like to know what his results were
I saw him in the final. Big guy that isn't a great set shot usually but kicked a good one. Not a great sample size but he doesn't look agile enough. Happy for others to have an input here.

Intent is there but i dont think he has the physical attributes to make it at the next level

He does things every now and then that make you go wow but i dont think it is enough.

 

[ChimpaWompa]

Thought this was interesting. We do have a clear WA bias after all. Not quite as big as WC, but still twice that of any outside of the state.

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adelaide jumps out, no wonder they have such bad retention issues

 

[guidodp15]

I want a ban on people wanting a ban on people suggesting one of Pearce, Hamling, Cox or Logue should play forward. We have tried so many times for the "messiah trade" for a KPF and anything we can draft with our picks will be years away from delivering - let's develop one of our own.

EDIT:

We could try this guy - he fits the age profile and is perfect size for a KPF.

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Baring the game against Adelaide where he kicked 4 he’s useless as a forward
And regardless what you think of Hale he doesn’t rate Cox as a forward and doesn’t want him anywhere near there.

 

[apuchar]

Intent is there but i dont think he has the physical attributes to make it at the next level

He does things every now and then that make you go wow but i dont think it is enough.

That's pretty much the way I saw it.

 

[FreoMatt]

Peter Bell probably the only example, even then we gave up a tonne so arguable if that’s was a success.

Yeah but we had Belly for nothing then delisted him, just to have to trade the farm to get him back...


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[apuchar]

Hale coach Jason Norrish, who played 128 games for the Dockers, described Miller as a mobile key forward with a good, long kick and a great set of hands.

Sounds good, get him on the list.

Edit: Just realised that article is 5 years old. I changed my mind.

The exact opposite to what I said

 

[Joao]

adelaide jumps out, no wonder they have such bad retention issues

I think the culture (hot word on here) lately probably didn't help but suspect the bulk Vics makes it worse than it might otherwise be.

Strange they are so far behind the other 3 from WA/SA for home state players.