List Mgmt. 2020 List Management

[Coona Blues]

Dear Horsey

Tell the nuggety FP, that his worth to Sydney far exceeds his worth to some of the other teams; especially my mob whose forward line is fairly well under control.

Explain to the non-nuggety FP that, like a Capper many years before, if he leaves he may not reach the heights he’s reaching in Sin City. He and Sydney were made for each other.

Best of luck.
We don’t want him.

Me.

As much as I am seduced by the idea of a gun small forward potentially wanting us, I do have some reservations. As Opine is alluding to, he has more
value to Sydney than to us. Harry, Charlie, McGovern and Martin is a real x factor forward line. They too often get in each other's way, even with Charlie
off the park at the moment. Papley has become a, or perhaps the, focal point of the Sydney attack, will he be happy to play the crumber/pressure role
in a "star studded" forward line? The next question is do we agree to part with greater than a first round pick to bring him to the club and play a lesser role?

I reiterate, let's see what we have internally, give Honey and Owies the chance to show their wares over the remaining games. Perhaps we draft a
small forward option such as Jack Ginnivan.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

SPS pace is underrated, Stocker has burst and mongrel

I agree with you, we need more zip at centre bounces and stoppages

Each time we get exposed it's on the outside, we get drawn too far in, as our defensive running is actually very good

Also agree its born from our game style, we need better tempo when the opposition score multiple goals and or if our avenues have been closed down

I think the worry with Stoker would be more general play then in the stoppages. I agree with SPS pace not being a worry in isolation but when he is part of our current midfield group I would really worry.
ATM we are probably looking abit like Melbourne imo. We do have a few guys with the attributes that could help but it’s really hard to know if they are good enough quality.

 

[Own The Future]

Okay.

Out of a combination of being required to read something I don't want to read for uni and a genuine interest in finding a series of left field options, I'm going to throw some names out there from just having a look over the teams with excess of what I think we need: a small forward, a midfielder/forward, an outside mid, and a rebounding defender.

Dan Houston

Dan Houston of the Collingwood Magpies Player Profile and AFL Stats

Dan Houston of the Collingwood Magpies profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

He's not played crazy games, but he's not a young kid and has taken his first steps out there in the AFL this season. Could be worth a look.

Trent Burgoyne

draftcentral.com.au

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afl.draftcentral.com.au

Now, this'd be speculative, but he'd be relatively cheap. He's an outside midfielder with a high kicks to handball ratio and exceptional skills. What I would like to know - which isn't on his draft profile or anything I could find - is if he loves a tackle.

He's not kicked a ball in anger, due to hamstring issues, and is out of contract at the end of the season.

Jack Patmore

draftcentral.com.au

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afl.draftcentral.com.au

He's a member of the 2017 Superdraft, and so it's interesting to read this in the light of the fact he went pick 58. He's an accumulating outside mid/running defender, who polled 40 possessions in the champs which is insane. His weaknesses were his endurance - with Russell at the club and our leadership looking pretty good, coupled with him currently being at Port, I don't know if that'd be an issue for much longer - and his inside game. We would not be recruiting him for his inside game, and just have him accumulate on the outside and form that link between forward and back.

We've not seen any of him because he ruptured his ACL at the start of 2019. Offer something that'd make them sit up and pay attention, and they might flinch.

The next group are more established players who fulfil the needs we have.

Lachie Hunter

Lachlan Hunter of the Melbourne Demons Player Profile and AFL Stats

Lachlan Hunter of the Melbourne Demons profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

He's an idiot, but he's also a gun. He'd completely replace Newnes on a wing, and probably force Walsh back into the stoppage. He would not be cheap, but so too would he not be on much coin, such is the importance of other players to WB. He's someone you offer overs in coin to want to come over to play for us - overs over time rather than a big signup - and you slot straight in.

Karl Amon

Karl Amon of the Hawthorn Hawks Player Profile and AFL Stats

Karl Amon of the Hawthorn Hawks profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

Now, you'd think he'd be hard to dislodge, being in the middle of a contract, but he's second tier behind a number of very competent players in Boak, Ebert Wines. They've got a second tier of midfield talent coming through, so there's a chance we could get him on the cheap if we think he's a way to go.

Kamdyn Macintosh

Kamdyn McIntosh of the Richmond Tigers Player Profile and AFL Stats

Kamdyn McIntosh of the Richmond Tigers profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

Kamdyn's a bit riskier, because while he's played plenty of footy he's as much an unfulfilled potential as any in the afl. He's 191 cm and 91kg, so he's big and strong, is rather quick for his size, and is capable of gamebreaking play at times, but by and large he's not been able to live up to his potential as yet. He's also 26, so he'd want to get going fairly soon.

What he'd bring is experience with a successful program, wouldn't cost much you'd think - as a lesser light in that team - and can really play any position around the midfield as a true utility.

Cedric Cox

Cedric Cox of the Brisbane Lions Player Profile and AFL Stats

Cedric Cox of the Brisbane Lions profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

Cedric is classy, but seems to have fallen behind some others in Brisbane's forward line. He's played very, very well - his highest possession game was against us - before, so he could be quite a decent option as that fast HFF/FP. Big thing is, he's got midfield chops as well.

Ollie Florent

Oliver Florent of the Carlton Blues Player Profile and AFL Stats

Oliver Florent of the Carlton Blues profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

We know Ollie's good. He's essentially a younger version of Hunter, with a more rounded game. I'd be very interested in getting in his ear and seeing how happy he is knowing he's going to be in Sydney for the next 5 years before they become a real finals prospect, because he'd be a magnificent get.

Brandon Parfitt

Brandan Parfitt of the Geelong Cats Player Profile and AFL Stats

Brandan Parfitt of the Geelong Cats profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

Parfitt is out of contract at the end of the season, and he's taken big strides this year. He's a huge tackler - averaging 6.9 tackles a game! - as well as averaging 15 possessions a match too. I'm all about getting him to Carlton; he feels like he's been around for a while, but he's only 22. He'd play in front of Kennedy as a pure mid, and he'd work off Cripps extremely well.

Brent Daniels

Brent Daniels of the GWS Giants Player Profile and AFL Stats

Brent Daniels of the GWS Giants profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

The very definition of a small forward. He or Ian Hill would be the way I'd go; he hasn't kicked crazy goals just yet, but he could be a terrific get.

So, any combination of these players could make for an interesting picture: Hunter, Parfitt and Daniels gives us an immediate improvement through the midfield and someone to serve as an understudy to Betts. Florent, Macintosh and Papley goes pretty well too. Amon, Patmore and Hill looks pretty good too.

My preference would be Patmore, Parfitt and Hill. Those three players make us a very interesting propostion going forward. However, we would need to ensure that we retained our experienced options, because of those three Parfit's the oldest at 22; we would be selecting them on potential rather than proven output,

Excellent post - some really intriguing options there.
If I recall correctly I’m fairly sure Cedric Cox has a connection to some of the indigenous players on our list. Could be worth a quiet word re crossing over.

 

[Own The Future]

Excellent post - some really intriguing options there.
If I recall correctly I’m fairly sure Cedric Cox has a connection to some of the indigenous players on our list. Could be worth a quiet word re crossing over.

Okay, this is the photo I was thinking of.
Hard to know if it was just a photo op to promote the camp they were all on, or if they actually had a link that could translate to a wish to play together.

 

[Arr0w]

I think the worry with Stoker would be more general play then in the stoppages. I agree with SPS pace not being a worry in isolation but when he is part of our current midfield group I would really worry.
ATM we are probably looking abit like Melbourne imo. We do have a few guys with the attributes that could help but it’s really hard to know if they are good enough quality.

This is why the transition is important

1 Do we target players? The likes Williams would be a great fit, as he could play in any arc and wouldn't hamper the development of our younger players.

2 Or do we again try and fast track the likes of Dow, Fisher, LOB, Stocker, Kemp, Philp, Ramsay, Honey, Cottrell, Polson? Plenty of pace for a midfield and fringes, generally with better footskills

I believe a bit of point 1 and 2 would be a good balance

 

[Arr0w]

Okay.

Out of a combination of being required to read something I don't want to read for uni and a genuine interest in finding a series of left field options, I'm going to throw some names out there from just having a look over the teams with excess of what I think we need: a small forward, a midfielder/forward, an outside mid, and a rebounding defender.

Dan Houston

Dan Houston of the Collingwood Magpies Player Profile and AFL Stats

Dan Houston of the Collingwood Magpies profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

He's not played crazy games, but he's not a young kid and has taken his first steps out there in the AFL this season. Could be worth a look.

Trent Burgoyne

draftcentral.com.au

This domain may be for sale!

afl.draftcentral.com.au

Now, this'd be speculative, but he'd be relatively cheap. He's an outside midfielder with a high kicks to handball ratio and exceptional skills. What I would like to know - which isn't on his draft profile or anything I could find - is if he loves a tackle.

He's not kicked a ball in anger, due to hamstring issues, and is out of contract at the end of the season.

Jack Patmore

draftcentral.com.au

This domain may be for sale!

afl.draftcentral.com.au

He's a member of the 2017 Superdraft, and so it's interesting to read this in the light of the fact he went pick 58. He's an accumulating outside mid/running defender, who polled 40 possessions in the champs which is insane. His weaknesses were his endurance - with Russell at the club and our leadership looking pretty good, coupled with him currently being at Port, I don't know if that'd be an issue for much longer - and his inside game. We would not be recruiting him for his inside game, and just have him accumulate on the outside and form that link between forward and back.

We've not seen any of him because he ruptured his ACL at the start of 2019. Offer something that'd make them sit up and pay attention, and they might flinch.

The next group are more established players who fulfil the needs we have.

Lachie Hunter

Lachlan Hunter of the Melbourne Demons Player Profile and AFL Stats

Lachlan Hunter of the Melbourne Demons profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

He's an idiot, but he's also a gun. He'd completely replace Newnes on a wing, and probably force Walsh back into the stoppage. He would not be cheap, but so too would he not be on much coin, such is the importance of other players to WB. He's someone you offer overs in coin to want to come over to play for us - overs over time rather than a big signup - and you slot straight in.

Karl Amon

Karl Amon of the Hawthorn Hawks Player Profile and AFL Stats

Karl Amon of the Hawthorn Hawks profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

Now, you'd think he'd be hard to dislodge, being in the middle of a contract, but he's second tier behind a number of very competent players in Boak, Ebert Wines. They've got a second tier of midfield talent coming through, so there's a chance we could get him on the cheap if we think he's a way to go.

Kamdyn Macintosh

Kamdyn McIntosh of the Richmond Tigers Player Profile and AFL Stats

Kamdyn McIntosh of the Richmond Tigers profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

Kamdyn's a bit riskier, because while he's played plenty of footy he's as much an unfulfilled potential as any in the afl. He's 191 cm and 91kg, so he's big and strong, is rather quick for his size, and is capable of gamebreaking play at times, but by and large he's not been able to live up to his potential as yet. He's also 26, so he'd want to get going fairly soon.

What he'd bring is experience with a successful program, wouldn't cost much you'd think - as a lesser light in that team - and can really play any position around the midfield as a true utility.

Cedric Cox

Cedric Cox of the Brisbane Lions Player Profile and AFL Stats

Cedric Cox of the Brisbane Lions profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

Cedric is classy, but seems to have fallen behind some others in Brisbane's forward line. He's played very, very well - his highest possession game was against us - before, so he could be quite a decent option as that fast HFF/FP. Big thing is, he's got midfield chops as well.

Ollie Florent

Oliver Florent of the Carlton Blues Player Profile and AFL Stats

Oliver Florent of the Carlton Blues profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

We know Ollie's good. He's essentially a younger version of Hunter, with a more rounded game. I'd be very interested in getting in his ear and seeing how happy he is knowing he's going to be in Sydney for the next 5 years before they become a real finals prospect, because he'd be a magnificent get.

Brandon Parfitt

Brandan Parfitt of the Geelong Cats Player Profile and AFL Stats

Brandan Parfitt of the Geelong Cats profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

Parfitt is out of contract at the end of the season, and he's taken big strides this year. He's a huge tackler - averaging 6.9 tackles a game! - as well as averaging 15 possessions a match too. I'm all about getting him to Carlton; he feels like he's been around for a while, but he's only 22. He'd play in front of Kennedy as a pure mid, and he'd work off Cripps extremely well.

Brent Daniels

Brent Daniels of the GWS Giants Player Profile and AFL Stats

Brent Daniels of the GWS Giants profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

The very definition of a small forward. He or Ian Hill would be the way I'd go; he hasn't kicked crazy goals just yet, but he could be a terrific get.

So, any combination of these players could make for an interesting picture: Hunter, Parfitt and Daniels gives us an immediate improvement through the midfield and someone to serve as an understudy to Betts. Florent, Macintosh and Papley goes pretty well too. Amon, Patmore and Hill looks pretty good too.

My preference would be Patmore, Parfitt and Hill. Those three players make us a very interesting propostion going forward. However, we would need to ensure that we retained our experienced options, because of those three Parfit's the oldest at 22; we would be selecting them on potential rather than proven output,

All of them should be a consideration, apart from Patmore, just burns the ball far too often

These types are exactly what you should trade for if targetting a primary player through FA like a Williams. Undervalued, good bang for buck

Great post

 

[Gethelred]

All of them should be a consideration, apart from Patmore, just burns the ball far too often

These types are exactly what you should trade for if targetting a primary player through FA like a Williams. Undervalued, good bang for buck

Great post

I had really big raps on Patmore, he reads like someone who could become a Gaff.

Is he really that bad by foot? Is it technique or vision?

 

[Arr0w]

I had really big raps on Patmore, he reads like someone who could become a Gaff.

Is he really that bad by foot? Is it technique or vision?

May have changed, but his kicking was poor in the championships and throughout that year

No trouble finding the pill, has great pace and reads the fall of the ball reasonably well, but his kicking was really poor

 

[Juice030103]

Not that I disagree, but given his age, do you think he would have been a better option than Betts

Maybe on the field in terms of playing but impact and culture at the club and leadership definitely not

 

[Juice030103]

Lets hope not.
Perryman and Caldwell another good game. 20 and 15 disposals. Both at 80% DE.

Caldwell wanted to come last year didn’t he?

 

[Arr0w]

Maybe on the field in terms of playing but impact and culture at the club and leadership definitely not

I said at the time, before the trade, if we wanted these attributes from Betts he could have joined as an assistant coach/rookie listed player

Romance does strange things to people's objectivity

 

[Juice030103]

I said at the time, before the trade, if we wanted these attributes from Betts he could have joined as an assistant coach/rookie listed player

Romance does strange things to people's objectivity

Very true

 

[BigBreakfast]

If aquiring Brodie adds pressure to those guys mentioned above then it's my belief that the team will be all the better.

JSOS has more of the run with tagging role (eg. Ed Curnow) than the others. His stints in the midfield so far have given the impression the coaches haven't really let him play the inside, hunt the ball style of play.

Will Brodie:
(Below is taken from bigfooty Will Brodie forum)
Only played 8 games last season but finds the ball with ease. Has been working on disposal and defensive efforts, but still not enough to get an opportunity in the seniors since Rd1.

Potential is huge. But no idea if he fulfils it.

Reserves match reports this season

Will Brodie:

Will impacted the game well playing a mix of midfield and forward. He had nine score involvements and looked very dangerous when playing in our forward line. Will is usually very strong at stoppages but was beaten this week inside so will look to focus on this Thursday against the Dogs.


Will Brodie:

Wiz played most of the game as an inside midfielder for us. He won some good balls around the contest but was inconsistent at stoppages due to body work and handball execution. Will sets a high standard for himself so will be wanting to have more of an impact in this area on the weekend.

Will Brodie:

Will had another solid game this weekend as an inside midfielder and is winning the ball well at stoppages. He’s been working hard on the defensive aspect of his game and it was pleasing to see a few examples of excellent defensive work-rate from Will. This will need to remain a strong focus to push for senior selection.

Will Brodie:

Will played as an inside mid and continues to have a positive impact at stoppages. He was strong offensively and help set up seven scoring shots. Will continues to play with strong defensive intent and needs to be consistent with this to earn an AFL recall.

Brodie is more Setters, Kennedy, Cripps ball winning mid. Nice age range but doesn’t fail our immediate need of speed and elite (foot) skills in particular. We need outside mids more than more inside players. Kelly, Williams, Perryman, Smith, Laird (maybe). A surprise name or two will pop up in talks closer to the trade period.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

This is why the transition is important

1 Do we target players? The likes Williams would be a great fit, as he could play in any arc and wouldn't hamper the development of our younger players.

2 Or do we again try and fast track the likes of Dow, Fisher, LOB, Stocker, Kemp, Philp, Ramsay, Honey, Cottrell, Polson? Plenty of pace for a midfield and fringes, generally with better footskills

I believe a bit of point 1 and 2 would be a good balance

For me chasing Williams as hard as possible is a no brainer simply because you can have about half a dozen of his type in a side and still be balanced. The perfect player to chase in our situation where we don’t know what kids will come on just yet.

it would be great to be able to fast track some of those guys but for me outside of Fisher there are so many question marks on the rest of them that you might just be wasting your time on whoever you choose to give games to and just be handicapping the side unnecessarily. I understand people see that very differently though. Having no VFL this season really is horrible

 

[DangerousD]

It is worth noting that, we have excess $$$$ that need to be spent this year, before our cap resets. It was mentioned by the CEO a few months back, that in 5alks with Gil, it was made clear that clubs with a buffer would maintain that buffer, regardless of how much the cap dropped.

The money is there to be spent

 

[DangerousD]

Okay.

Out of a combination of being required to read something I don't want to read for uni and a genuine interest in finding a series of left field options, I'm going to throw some names out there from just having a look over the teams with excess of what I think we need: a small forward, a midfielder/forward, an outside mid, and a rebounding defender.

Dan Houston

Dan Houston of the Collingwood Magpies Player Profile and AFL Stats

Dan Houston of the Collingwood Magpies profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

He's not played crazy games, but he's not a young kid and has taken his first steps out there in the AFL this season. Could be worth a look.

Trent Burgoyne

draftcentral.com.au

This domain may be for sale!

afl.draftcentral.com.au

Now, this'd be speculative, but he'd be relatively cheap. He's an outside midfielder with a high kicks to handball ratio and exceptional skills. What I would like to know - which isn't on his draft profile or anything I could find - is if he loves a tackle.

He's not kicked a ball in anger, due to hamstring issues, and is out of contract at the end of the season.

Jack Patmore

draftcentral.com.au

This domain may be for sale!

afl.draftcentral.com.au

He's a member of the 2017 Superdraft, and so it's interesting to read this in the light of the fact he went pick 58. He's an accumulating outside mid/running defender, who polled 40 possessions in the champs which is insane. His weaknesses were his endurance - with Russell at the club and our leadership looking pretty good, coupled with him currently being at Port, I don't know if that'd be an issue for much longer - and his inside game. We would not be recruiting him for his inside game, and just have him accumulate on the outside and form that link between forward and back.

We've not seen any of him because he ruptured his ACL at the start of 2019. Offer something that'd make them sit up and pay attention, and they might flinch.

The next group are more established players who fulfil the needs we have.

Lachie Hunter

Lachlan Hunter of the Melbourne Demons Player Profile and AFL Stats

Lachlan Hunter of the Melbourne Demons profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

He's an idiot, but he's also a gun. He'd completely replace Newnes on a wing, and probably force Walsh back into the stoppage. He would not be cheap, but so too would he not be on much coin, such is the importance of other players to WB. He's someone you offer overs in coin to want to come over to play for us - overs over time rather than a big signup - and you slot straight in.

Karl Amon

Karl Amon of the Hawthorn Hawks Player Profile and AFL Stats

Karl Amon of the Hawthorn Hawks profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

Now, you'd think he'd be hard to dislodge, being in the middle of a contract, but he's second tier behind a number of very competent players in Boak, Ebert Wines. They've got a second tier of midfield talent coming through, so there's a chance we could get him on the cheap if we think he's a way to go.

Kamdyn Macintosh

Kamdyn McIntosh of the Richmond Tigers Player Profile and AFL Stats

Kamdyn McIntosh of the Richmond Tigers profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

Kamdyn's a bit riskier, because while he's played plenty of footy he's as much an unfulfilled potential as any in the afl. He's 191 cm and 91kg, so he's big and strong, is rather quick for his size, and is capable of gamebreaking play at times, but by and large he's not been able to live up to his potential as yet. He's also 26, so he'd want to get going fairly soon.

What he'd bring is experience with a successful program, wouldn't cost much you'd think - as a lesser light in that team - and can really play any position around the midfield as a true utility.

Cedric Cox

Cedric Cox of the Brisbane Lions Player Profile and AFL Stats

Cedric Cox of the Brisbane Lions profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

Cedric is classy, but seems to have fallen behind some others in Brisbane's forward line. He's played very, very well - his highest possession game was against us - before, so he could be quite a decent option as that fast HFF/FP. Big thing is, he's got midfield chops as well.

Ollie Florent

Oliver Florent of the Carlton Blues Player Profile and AFL Stats

Oliver Florent of the Carlton Blues profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

We know Ollie's good. He's essentially a younger version of Hunter, with a more rounded game. I'd be very interested in getting in his ear and seeing how happy he is knowing he's going to be in Sydney for the next 5 years before they become a real finals prospect, because he'd be a magnificent get.

Brandon Parfitt

Brandan Parfitt of the Geelong Cats Player Profile and AFL Stats

Brandan Parfitt of the Geelong Cats profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

Parfitt is out of contract at the end of the season, and he's taken big strides this year. He's a huge tackler - averaging 6.9 tackles a game! - as well as averaging 15 possessions a match too. I'm all about getting him to Carlton; he feels like he's been around for a while, but he's only 22. He'd play in front of Kennedy as a pure mid, and he'd work off Cripps extremely well.

Brent Daniels

Brent Daniels of the GWS Giants Player Profile and AFL Stats

Brent Daniels of the GWS Giants profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

The very definition of a small forward. He or Ian Hill would be the way I'd go; he hasn't kicked crazy goals just yet, but he could be a terrific get.

So, any combination of these players could make for an interesting picture: Hunter, Parfitt and Daniels gives us an immediate improvement through the midfield and someone to serve as an understudy to Betts. Florent, Macintosh and Papley goes pretty well too. Amon, Patmore and Hill looks pretty good too.

My preference would be Patmore, Parfitt and Hill. Those three players make us a very interesting propostion going forward. However, we would need to ensure that we retained our experienced options, because of those three Parfit's the oldest at 22; we would be selecting them on potential rather than proven output,

Florent is a fantastic player, who wouldn’t want him, if there’s a chance, go nuts. What do you think Sydney’s rebuild plans are? Hold Papley to his contract, trade out Parker to get more kids in, trade fringe l,ayers for mid range picks and go for value?
I doubt any plan would include a player like Florent leaving the club.

Houston would be very good too, ive never heard any mention of him wanting out.

 

[Brackets]

Florent is a fantastic player, who wouldn’t want him, if there’s a chance, go nuts. What do you think Sydney’s rebuild plans are? Hold Papley to his contract, trade out Parker to get more kids in, trade fringe l,ayers for mid range picks and go for value?
I doubt any plan would include a player like Florent leaving the club.

Houston would be very good too, ive never heard any mention of him wanting out.

Most of that list is contracted, and would be highly rated internally I'm sure (hence their multi - year contracts).

The couple that I've never heard of don't seem to be priorities given age and injuries.

Interested to see if we start to have players request a move.

 

[Jeremias]

Florent is a very good young footballer, Sydney will not let him go anywhere.

If we're talking to Sydney about anything beyond Papley, I would be asking about Melican.

Have always rated him and think he can provide good defensive cover, see him as someone who can play on a range of forwards.

Think he is contracted beyond this season, but seems to have fallen out of favour, and may be someone we can add on the cheap.

 

[DangerousD]

Florent is a very good young footballer, Sydney will not let him go anywhere.

If we're talking to Sydney about anything beyond Papley, I would be asking about Melican.

Have always rated him and think he can provide good defensive cover, see him as someone who can play on a range of forwards.

Think he is contracted beyond this season, but seems to have fallen out of favour, and may be someone we can add on the cheap.

Really, Mellican, I’m not sure if my memory is off, but I remember him being slow and more of a stopper. I would like Hewitt from the Swans though.

Say we trumped others and got Williams as a FA, decided to take our 1st to the draft and brought in Hewitt with a 2nd rounder, could even trade a future 2nd or 1st to bring in a senior player.

Securing a quality FA creates so much possibility and flexibility come trade time, if all it is, is $$$$ then splash the cash, the extra $$$ allows us to go hard somewhere else.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

If LOB and Dow don't get games soon, wonder if they are courted by other clubs and seriously contemplate moving

 

[Eiffel 65]

If LOB and Dow don't get games soon, wonder if they are courted by other clubs and seriously contemplate moving

Don't think so.

Dow's injured. Pretty confident he sustained a 3 month knee injury towards the back end of the Covid-19 shutdown, played one reserves match and aggravated his knee again.

O'brien still needs to put on some size. Just needs one more off-season in the gym to really push hard for selection.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Don't think so.

Dow's injured. Pretty confident he sustained a 3 month knee injury towards the back end of the Covid-19 shutdown, played one reserves match and aggravated his knee again.

O'brien still needs to put on some size. Just needs one more off-season in the gym to really push hard for selection.

I know about Dow's injury and the size stuff with LOB. Still doesn't mean they won't be approached

 

[Jeremias]

Really, Mellican, I’m not sure if my memory is off, but I remember him being slow and more of a stopper. I would like Hewitt from the Swans though.

Say we trumped others and got Williams as a FA, decided to take our 1st to the draft and brought in Hewitt with a 2nd rounder, could even trade a future 2nd or 1st to bring in a senior player.

Securing a quality FA creates so much possibility and flexibility come trade time, if all it is, is $$$$ then splash the cash, the extra $$$ allows us to go hard somewhere else.

He's a defender first and foremost, so you're not getting a lot of run or rebound from him, though his disposal is very decent. There are areas he needs to work on but he has shown himself capable and think he has further scope to improve.

I think he's well worth asking the question about if we're looking for further defensive cover, he's a ready-to-go backup option who probably won't cost much.

Hewett sure, but he's a level above Melican. Can't see him leaving but he'd be a good addition in the middle of the ground.

 

[Jeremias]

Re: Dow and O'Brien I doubt anyone comes asking the question.

Both are contracted.

Fans are often impatient but I think there's a pretty good understanding within the industry that kids often take time and they're not necessarily unsettled just because they're not playing senior footy.

And even if a club did ask the question, I'm not sure what people think we'd be getting offered, but clearly it would be a 'loss' on the investment and not something I would think we'd be overly keen to entertain.

 

[Jimmae]

Okay.

Out of a combination of being required to read something I don't want to read for uni and a genuine interest in finding a series of left field options, I'm going to throw some names out there from just having a look over the teams with excess of what I think we need: a small forward, a midfielder/forward, an outside mid, and a rebounding defender.

Dan Houston

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Dan Houston of the Collingwood Magpies profile and AFL statistics.

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He's not played crazy games, but he's not a young kid and has taken his first steps out there in the AFL this season. Could be worth a look.

Trent Burgoyne

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Now, this'd be speculative, but he'd be relatively cheap. He's an outside midfielder with a high kicks to handball ratio and exceptional skills. What I would like to know - which isn't on his draft profile or anything I could find - is if he loves a tackle.

He's not kicked a ball in anger, due to hamstring issues, and is out of contract at the end of the season.

Jack Patmore

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He's a member of the 2017 Superdraft, and so it's interesting to read this in the light of the fact he went pick 58. He's an accumulating outside mid/running defender, who polled 40 possessions in the champs which is insane. His weaknesses were his endurance - with Russell at the club and our leadership looking pretty good, coupled with him currently being at Port, I don't know if that'd be an issue for much longer - and his inside game. We would not be recruiting him for his inside game, and just have him accumulate on the outside and form that link between forward and back.

We've not seen any of him because he ruptured his ACL at the start of 2019. Offer something that'd make them sit up and pay attention, and they might flinch.

The next group are more established players who fulfil the needs we have.

Lachie Hunter

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Lachlan Hunter of the Melbourne Demons profile and AFL statistics.

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He's an idiot, but he's also a gun. He'd completely replace Newnes on a wing, and probably force Walsh back into the stoppage. He would not be cheap, but so too would he not be on much coin, such is the importance of other players to WB. He's someone you offer overs in coin to want to come over to play for us - overs over time rather than a big signup - and you slot straight in.

Karl Amon

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Karl Amon of the Hawthorn Hawks profile and AFL statistics.

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Now, you'd think he'd be hard to dislodge, being in the middle of a contract, but he's second tier behind a number of very competent players in Boak, Ebert Wines. They've got a second tier of midfield talent coming through, so there's a chance we could get him on the cheap if we think he's a way to go.

Kamdyn Macintosh

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Kamdyn's a bit riskier, because while he's played plenty of footy he's as much an unfulfilled potential as any in the afl. He's 191 cm and 91kg, so he's big and strong, is rather quick for his size, and is capable of gamebreaking play at times, but by and large he's not been able to live up to his potential as yet. He's also 26, so he'd want to get going fairly soon.

What he'd bring is experience with a successful program, wouldn't cost much you'd think - as a lesser light in that team - and can really play any position around the midfield as a true utility.

Cedric Cox

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Cedric is classy, but seems to have fallen behind some others in Brisbane's forward line. He's played very, very well - his highest possession game was against us - before, so he could be quite a decent option as that fast HFF/FP. Big thing is, he's got midfield chops as well.

Ollie Florent

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We know Ollie's good. He's essentially a younger version of Hunter, with a more rounded game. I'd be very interested in getting in his ear and seeing how happy he is knowing he's going to be in Sydney for the next 5 years before they become a real finals prospect, because he'd be a magnificent get.

Brandon Parfitt

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Parfitt is out of contract at the end of the season, and he's taken big strides this year. He's a huge tackler - averaging 6.9 tackles a game! - as well as averaging 15 possessions a match too. I'm all about getting him to Carlton; he feels like he's been around for a while, but he's only 22. He'd play in front of Kennedy as a pure mid, and he'd work off Cripps extremely well.

Brent Daniels

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Brent Daniels of the GWS Giants profile and AFL statistics.

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The very definition of a small forward. He or Ian Hill would be the way I'd go; he hasn't kicked crazy goals just yet, but he could be a terrific get.

So, any combination of these players could make for an interesting picture: Hunter, Parfitt and Daniels gives us an immediate improvement through the midfield and someone to serve as an understudy to Betts. Florent, Macintosh and Papley goes pretty well too. Amon, Patmore and Hill looks pretty good too.

My preference would be Patmore, Parfitt and Hill. Those three players make us a very interesting propostion going forward. However, we would need to ensure that we retained our experienced options, because of those three Parfit's the oldest at 22; we would be selecting them on potential rather than proven output,

I am a big fan of Patmore, but his real concern is his kicking action. Get that right and he'll be a star.

Pretty sure his endurance testing reflected how nicked up he was after a huge junior season, because he'd already lost a heap of weight through the pre-season that year and improved his running game.