2020 Non-Crows AFL Discussion

[GROTTO]

If the Afl season is cancelled but not SANFL. Crows and port can play their best players in the sanfl team

If the AFL season is cancelled so will the SANFL.

 

[arrowman]

Hypothetically, if everyone is quarantined for the next 2 months and only allowed to leave to get food or go to the doctor, the virus won’t spread as easily and anyone who has the virus can be identified more easily.

Sometimes I think it might be a good idea to close the borders and lock the population in their homes for 3 weeks. Massive killbuzz for the economy, of course, but hey, ripping off bandaids and all that.

OK, not seriously, but....

 

[crows dude]

If the AFL season is cancelled so will the SANFL.

I thought it would be mass gatherings only. So over 2000 people. Sanfl could still go ahead with that rule.

 

[arrowman]

people stocking up on toilet paper

Well, Mrs Arrowman did the supermarket shop on the weekend - Woolies was out of TP, the Drake's nearby had plenty of stock, business as usual.

Moral? Drakes customers are smarter than Woolies customers

 

[Tex200]

Where is this being reported?

I’m not going to list but it’s all over the news now

 

[radiojake]

How many people under 70 is this flu killing?

I just don't get the panic

 

[Scorpus]

How many people under 70 is this flu killing?

I just don't get the panic

 

[BACCS]

How many people under 70 is this flu killing?

I just don't get the panic

That’s what I thought initially too, but the issue is more that anyone could spread to people who are vulnerable.

 

[BACCS]

Would be nice if the MSM could start reporting these figures properly instead of being alarmists

 

[Scorpus]

That’s what I thought initially too, but the issue is more that anyone could spread to people who are vulnerable.

Yeah that's exactly right. It's unlikely to kill someone below the age of 60, but you could spread it easily to someone over that age and... well... not good for them

 

[Scorpus]

It's also far less likely to kill someone with no pre-existing conditions

 

[Tex200]

How many people under 70 is this flu killing?

I just don't get the panic

So what...you don’t give a crap about people over 70?

A low post - even by your standards

 

[FR0GGY]

Has there been no deaths of kids under 10?

 

[Dandy_GO]

Sometimes I think it might be a good idea to close the borders and lock the population in their homes for 3 weeks. Massive killbuzz for the economy, of course, but hey, ripping off bandaids and all that.

OK, not seriously, but....

I live in China and have been stuck here since the start of the outbreak (my New Zealand holiday was cancelled - they banned travellers from China the day before I was due to go there).
Thankfully, I live in a province that hasn't been too badly affected. Only around 100 of the 45 million people in Yunnan have confirmed infections.
Despite this, the government (both provincial and national) have gone to pretty extraordinary lengths to contain the spread of the disease. We've been in semi-lockdown for over a month.

All parks, tourist sites, gathering spots are locked up and guarded.
You're expected to wear a mask outside of the house, and many businesses won't let you enter without one on.
All restaurants have been closed for dine-in service since mid-January. Takeaway is still allowed.
Schools are closed - all kids are learning online.
You're required to have your temperature checked to enter any major shopping mall/large supermarket/apartment building.
You're required to scan a QR code when you enter or exit any business or building. If, through this system, you're found to be in the same place as someone who later tests positive, then you'll be notified and will be tested/quarantined.
There are temperature checks on highways between districts. Most public transport was shut down for a few weeks, but has since re-opened. A lot of districts have been completely isolated.

You're allowed to head out of the house whenever you want, but, at one point, you would get a tap on the shoulder from your building's security if you were going out too often, or having guests over. Got a stern warning for playing poker with a couple of friends a few weeks back. Things are settling down a bit more now.

China, despite a lack of doctors/nurses/hospitals to handle the outbreak (as seen in Wuhan), is better equipped to track the disease and quarantine people/areas. Everyone has a smartphone and everyone already uses WeChat for social media + financial transactions (cash transactions, even amongst older people, are rarer and rarer) so the government was easily able to use this app to spread information and track infections using the QR code system I mentioned. Security (which was already everywhere anyway) make sure people comply with the measures. The local equivalent of uber-eats is WAY more widely used and affordable here (a benefit of high population density in cities).

I live in one of the country's food-bowl provinces, so it might've been harder elsewhere, but it was really only the first week when it was at all tricky to get stuff. I stocked up on supplies shortly after embassies started warning people to leave china or prepare for the worst. I haven't really had to use any of the extra supplies I picked up yet. Things are a little more expensive than usual, however.

It's interesting to hear what's happening in Australia right now, and I'm not sure which of the above measures will really work/be accepted back home. It feels like we're the other end here. Things are starting to get back to normal. The infection rate is beginning to flatline and it has now been a couple of weeks since a new infection in my city.

I've been working from home for a month now, but will be heading back to the office on the 23rd. To be honest, my fiancee and I have been quite happy! The benefit of this shitty situation is that it's a great opportunity to use the extra time to improve your daily routine/work on your hobbies. I've been running a lot, because the air quality (not that I live in a problem city like Beijing or anything) is the best it has been since I moved, and, up until the last week or so, I've had the footpath to myself.

Schools re-open towards the end of this month. No guarantees that won't trigger another wave of outbreaks... We'll see!

 

[SuperBashBros]

16 a side anyone?

'No bugger can score anymore': Clarkson flags 16-a-side re-think

Clarkson, who also conceded he was one of the coaches who had contributed to the recent trend of lower scoring in the AFL, said scoring would only increase if the league legislated for it rather than coaches committing to play more attacking game styles.

www.theage.com.au

In the AFL charter that it has to be 18 on field. Would require massive support

 

[NikkiNoo]

Yeah that's exactly right. It's unlikely to kill someone below the age of 60, but you could spread it easily to someone over that age and... well... not good for them

Except that with the massive rate of infection in Italy, younger people have started to die from the virus over the past couple of days. That graph is going to change.

 

[hey shorty]

Except that with the massive rate of infection in Italy, younger people have started to die from the virus over the past couple of days. That graph is going to change.

Thatll always happen when you get something as infectious as this, but itll be the exception not the rule

 

[Scorpus]

Except that with the massive rate of infection in Italy, younger people have started to die from the virus over the past couple of days. That graph is going to change.

That's possible but I don't think speculating helps with these sorts of global panic-inducing events.

 

[Niximus]

However bad COVID-19 is surely it can't make you as sick as CORVID-17 eh? amirite?

 

[NikkiNoo]

again, go watch his speech he has just given - what he is actually doing sounds vastly different from what you have just alluded to. Remember he placed a travel ban before anyone else had done and offered to send across top medical experts in virology to China to help in the early phase and it was declined. He has also sought a huge amount of money from Congress to help across the country both medically and financially.

I am just looking at the facts - not playing politics. Not sure why people here are attacking him when he is taking huge measures to try and stop the spread and find an effective treatment

He hasn't. Two years ago he disbanded the team in the CDC who respond to events such as this. The second in command position in the CDC is currently vacant and has been almost since he took office. The US is woefully underprepared to counter a pandemic such as this. The reason the WHO declared a pandemic is partially because of the poor US response.

There were US citizens in Wuhan at the outbreak. Trump was told not to bring them back to the US by the CDC until their symptoms had abated. He defied the CDC's advice and flew them back in. The Department staff at Health and Human Services then went to inspect them with NO protective gear - no masks, no gloves etc when their plane landed at the US air base in California. The first case reported in the US was from the local community to that air-base.

Trump has refused to make more testing available. He liked the numbers low. The best way to keep it low was to not do testing. Many workers in the US can't afford the healthcare costs to go and get testing done, and were unsure how much it was going to cost them. Also most of those workers are casual so if you call in sick, you don't get paid, or more likely, end up fired if you have extended time off.

His press conference today he stated that Health Insurers are going to pay the costs. The top lobby firm for the Industry has since come out and said that is total news to them and is not happening. At least three statements he made during the press conference have had to be completely refuted by the White House as being incorrect.

The spread of infection in the US is completely unknown, and if countries were smart, travellers from the US should be on the 'not to enter' list. The first case in Melbourne was from someone travelling back from the US. His decisions are not effective in trying to control the outbreak that is already happening in the US.

 

[NikkiNoo]

No idea. Vaccines aren't quick though.

Vaccines take, probably at the quickest about 2 years to go from development to testing to marketplace. What also needs to be taken in to account are the closing of Universities. That stops research happening, which extends that time frame out. The best part so far is that there has been a lot of sharing of research data across countries for COVID-19.

 

[jackster83]

That's possible but I don't think speculating helps with these sorts of global panic-inducing events.

No doubt a lot of this is politically motivated also.

 

[GrommoT]

Didnt run fast enough.

Musta run out of dunny paper.

 

[StonesThrow]

Well, Mrs Arrowman did the supermarket shop on the weekend - Woolies was out of TP, the Drake's nearby had plenty of stock, business as usual.

Moral? Drakes customers are smarter than Woolies customers

That's because drake is such a top bloke who cares about local people blah blah blah. I used to support Foodland until I realised they were all a bunch of pricks as well.

 

[arrowman]

How many people under 70 is this flu killing?

I just don't get the panic

There's "panic" as in stockpiling toilet paper, and there's a serious lets-get-on-top-of-this response, which is not "panic".

I believe one of the top Italian government people (the President or PM) said the other day that Italy should be a lesson to the rest of the world, don't hold back, take action, or you'll end up like them. Essentially admitting they didn't do enough, early enough.