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List Mgmt. 2021 Draft picks: 4/33/75

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Mutineer said:
Just off the top of my head...Darcy and Daicos not included
If I'm picking for us it has to be a focus on mids or players that look likely to transition into the midfield.

1. Jason Horne Francis
2. Josh Goater
3. Neil Erasmus
4. Ben Hobbs
5 Finn Callaghan
6. Josh Sinn
7. Josh Ward
8. Ned Long
9. Arlo Draper
10. Campbell Chesser

Players I fancy with later picks
Kai Lohmann - X factor medium forward with traits I think can transition into the midfield. (Very bullish about this lad)
Mitch Knevitt - Tall midfielder
Zac Taylor - Highly skilled midfielder
Sam Butler - Quick Impactful Mid/forward (edited to include)
James Willis - Explosive mid/forward
Cooper Murley - Speedy smaller mid/forward
Brady Hough - Mid/Forward
Judson Clarke - Clever small forward
Jamieson Ballantyne - Classy moving Wingman with great skills
Charlie Molan - High footy I'Q. medium defender/mid
Paul Curtis - Small forward.


Rookie favourites
Jordan Lukac - Athletic KPF
Isaac Birt - Speedy high endurance wingman with a penetrating kick.
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You've normally got a bit of respect for Cal Twomey's Draft order, what do you think about him rating Goater at 18 this morning in his Draft update?
 
Mutineer said:
Can you point me to where I said he was 186cm

And I just don't get this board's fascination with "big" midfielders either, Hobbs is not a short arse, he'd be right in the mean average for AFL midfielders I would think and already better built than most of them. I just want top notch midfielders and he projects as being just that, and I certainly won't be disappointed if he was the player Hamish selected.
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The fascination is fact.

Go watch the Grandfinal.. Bont/Oliver/Petracca then give us your expert opinion on how short people
are just as good.
 
triggyscrewedus said:
The fascination is fact.

Go watch the Grandfinal.. Bont/Oliver/Petracca then give us your expert opinion on how short people
are just as good.
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Or mere coincidences. After all, we're not long removed from the days that Ablett was the most destructive midfielder out.

Likely there is more to be said how important power/explosive acceleration is to have in abundance in a midfield rotation compared to height.
 
Golumless said:
Or mere coincidences. After all, we're not long removed from the days that Ablett was the most destructive midfielder out.

Likely there is more to be said how important power/explosive acceleration is to have in abundance in a midfield rotation compared to height.
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Plus those 3 players are good contested marks
 

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Golumless said:
Or mere coincidences. After all, we're not long removed from the days that Ablett was the most destructive midfielder out.

Likely there is more to be said how important power/explosive acceleration is to have in abundance in a midfield rotation compared to height.
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Yeah it always come back to Ablett.. no doubt a gun in his prime 10 yrs ago.
The game has moved on.
 
How many players have had this said about them in the last week ......English, James Stewart, Jordan Clark ect

Long & short of it being, you can have all the skills, and run like the wind ......but you still must have a basic competitive spirit

It nearly spelt the end of Peter Wright's career ....could end Newchurch's

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WeedsMullet84 said:
You've normally got a bit of respect for Cal Twomey's Draft order, what do you think about him rating Goater at 18 this morning in his Draft update?
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Have I?

And really I don't give a toss where Twomey or anyone else rates them, I've seen quite a bit of Goater and there's not 17 players better than him in this draft to my eye. I consider him top 10 material and given what Reid has said we're looking for in this draft he'll be near the top of our shopping list.
 
Crows I Am said:
Hobbs is 183cm. That is hardly a midget.
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Correct he's around the mean average for current AFL midfielders and bigger bodied than a lot of them already....will be interesting to see his and others measurements after tomorrow's Vic Country Combine over in Bendigo.
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A STERLING return to the field has seen midfield prospect Ben Hobbs waste no time in breaking into AFL.com.au's rolling NAB AFL Draft Team of the Year.

Hobbs missed two months with an ankle injury at the start of the season, but a very swift return to his best has reminded recruiters of his abilities as an inside midfielder who can also push forward and hit the scoreboard.

The Greater Western Victoria Rebels regained Hobbs two weeks ago and he dominated with 34 disposals, eight clearances and 2.2. He backed it up last week as Vic Country skipper in one of the under-19s trial games with an even more commanding showing, finding 37 disposals (including 14 in the first term), nine marks and two goals.
 
If GWS & GC are both potentially looking at talls with their picks, then I don’t see any way we split 4 until draft night, if at all. Our pick essentially becomes the pick of all non-JHF mids, or we get a Vic club willing to sell the farm to get a hold of someone they love (Callaghan?).
 
triggyscrewedus said:
Yeah it always come back to Ablett.. no doubt a gun in his prime 10 yrs ago.
The game has moved on.
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Of course, it does, Ablett is the pinnacle this century. Nor is it that far, seeing his prime wound up 3ish years ago.

The game hasn't moved anywhere near what you think it has.
 
ContrarianCrow said:
If GWS & GC are both potentially looking at talls with their picks, then I don’t see any way we split 4 until draft night, if at all. Our pick essentially becomes the pick of all non-JHF mids, or we get a Vic club willing to sell the farm to get a hold of someone they love (Callaghan?).
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Agree, although there is some risk that someone like Richmond trade up to 3 for Callaghan.
 

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ams4crows said:
Or in a pipe dream world, North are gonna take Callaghan at pick 1 and it's why we are so interested in Pick 2.... Because JHF will be sitting there for us.
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GC and GWS take Andrew and Gibcus, we get stuck with JHF at 4
 
Golumless said:
Of course, it does, Ablett is the pinnacle this century. Nor is it that far, seeing his prime wound up 3ish years ago.

The game hasn't moved anywhere near what you think it has.
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Yeah your right Ablett was still so unbelievably good 3yrs ago he was doing monos in his wheel chair..
Rule changes alone have changed the game in the space of one season let alone ten.
Write down your top ten mids and let me know how many short people you have 😁
 
triggyscrewedus said:
Yeah your right Ablett was still so unbelievably good 3yrs ago he was doing monos in his wheel chair..
Rule changes alone have changed the game in the space of one season let alone ten.
Write down your top ten mids and let me know how many short people you have 😁
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Bont
Petracca
Martin
Dangerfield
Oliver
Neale
Wines
Lyons
Walsh
Miller
Merrett
McCluggage
MacRae

Would be some good ones. I've probably missed a few.
 

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dogs105 said:
Bont
Petracca
Martin
Dangerfield
Oliver
Neale
Wines
Lyons
Walsh
Miller
Merrett
McCluggage
MacRae

Would be some good ones. I've probably missed a few.
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You have indeed Josh Kelly, Ben Cunnington, Taylor Adams, Darcy Parish etc etc
 
triggyscrewedus said:
Yeah your right Ablett was still so unbelievably good 3yrs ago he was doing monos in his wheel chair..
Rule changes alone have changed the game in the space of one season let alone ten.
Write down your top ten mids and let me know how many short people you have [emoji16]
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Miller and Neale are 177, at least.

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