Injury 2021 Injury Thread

[calder_daddy]

Surely Tom Stewart couldn't make it back IF we made the Granny..... Surely

Just imagine if we did, and he did

 

[foxdog50]

Just imagine if we did, and he did

Oh mate,I'd be like a 14 year old get a 1 Direction Concert... but he would need to think of the team first if he thinks he couldn't run out a full game

 

[calder_daddy]

Oh mate,I'd be like a 14 year old get a 1 Direction Concert... but he would need to think of the team first if he thinks he couldn't run out a full game

Couldn’t care less if we only get a half out of him.
Sub him off, half a Stewart is better than anything currently not playing

 

[dazbroncos]

It’s a different injury to Egan.. but he point still stands.
If he plays and gets thru and we win - great call

if he plays and get hurt and win - still great but at what cost

all the other scenarios are losses and if it becomes chronic ... then it will never be lived down when worst case a 3 x AA has his career cut short in his prime. It’s a risky risky proposition.
Go Catters

 

[catempire]

It’s a different injury to Egan.. but he point still stands.
If he plays and gets thru and we win - great call

if he plays and get hurt and win - still great but at what cost

all the other scenarios are losses and if it becomes chronic ... then it will never be lived down when worst case a 3 x AA has his career cut short in his prime. It’s a risky risky proposition.
Go Catters

The relevant question is risk. Being a much different issue to the navicular it brings with it a different risk. What is the worst outcome? Is it career threatening? Or is it repeating the recent surgery and say 12 weeks off? If the latter that’s quite likely a risk worth taking.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Guessing this could delay his pre-season is really significant to the point of requiring surgery

I doubt it would be surgery unless its a tendon injury but yes sounds like his year is done.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Oh mate,I'd be like a 14 year old get a 1 Direction Concert... but he would need to think of the team first if he thinks he couldn't run out a full game

He could well get back. Im not sure it will happen but its within possibility.

 

[FredLeDeux]

The relevant question is risk. Being a much different issue to the navicular it brings with it a different risk. What is the worst outcome? Is it career threatening? Or is it repeating the recent surgery and say 12 weeks off? If the latter that’s quite likely a risk worth taking.

Given the risks inherent in any surgery, I personally would not play him if that was a possibility.

 

[catempire]

Given the risks inherent in any surgery, I personally would not play him if that was a possibility.

There’s almost certainly more nuance than I have suggested here. It might be that further surgery on the same area is much more complicated/risky. But given the stakes and the potential upside I think there will be appetite to take almost any kind of risk that doesn’t have long term consequences.

 

[nohairandfair]

Parfitt done for the season. We do seem to get more than our fair share of hamstring injuries.

 

[BigCat1]

Parfitt actually having surgery on his hamstring. Be a decent 3 months off. Not great for next years prep either. Esp at his age

 

[catempire]

Latest on Stewart:

Stewart returned to straight line running and kicking the ball in training on Sunday, as he continues to rehabilitate from a Lisfranc ligament injury in his foot that required surgery.

While it would still appear highly unlikely the All-Australian defender could make a return this year if the Cats got through the preliminary final and into a grand final two weeks later, presently they are not prepared to completely rule him out.


Stewart’s long-term future is the priority as coach Chris Scott

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has previously said and football manager Simon Lloyd reiterated on Monday, but the sight of Stewart back in training was encouraging for the spirits of the Cats players and officials currently in Perth.

“We will entertain it when we need to entertain it,” Lloyd said of Stewart’s possible surprise availability should the Cats prevail in the preliminary final.

“He has commenced running and kicking, running in straight lines, and he pulled up well, but he still needs to tick off a lot of areas - change of direction, aerial work, speed - before going further and, at this point in time, as we sit here, we don’t need to make that decision.

“It will be a medical-based decision on what happens with Tom next, not a football one, and it will be with Tom’s long-term health in mind.

“So while he has started running that is just part of his rehabilitation program, he is not ahead of it, he has not been accelerated, he is still on the time line we set out from the start.”

The bolded might explain why they are even persisting with the slim chance.

 

[fpm84]

Scott just spoke about Stewart on 360 in the context of whether we would welcome the bye if we win on Friday.

He again said Stew would be ‘a very real chance’ for the GF if we make it.

 

[My Tilly]

Scott just spoke about Stewart on 360 in the context of whether we would welcome the bye if we win on Friday.

He again said Stew would be ‘a very real chance’ for the GF if we make it.

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Tom Stewart Lisfranc injury: Top Doc says surgery will finish Tom Stewart’s season
All-Australian defender Tom Stewart will undergo surgery on Monday on a Lisfranc injury set to crush his hopes of playing a role in Geelong’s push for a premiership this year.

ALL-AUSTRALIAN defender Tom Stewart will undergo surgery on Monday on a Lisfranc injury set to crush his hopes of playing a role in Geelong’s push for a premiership this year.
The Cats are holding out hope that Stewart might somehow make it back for the grand final if they make it all the way, but leading sports medico Doctor Peter Larkins believes the champion backman is finished for 2021.

Following his team’s 14-point come from behind win over St Kilda on the weekend, Geelong coach Chris Scott said Stewart – who suffered the mid-foot injury at training on Thursday – would undergo surgery on Monday, but added ‘I don’t think even a higher power knows if he will come back or not. What we have been told is it is possible, however slim that is’.

But Dr Larkins said if the Cats legitimately thought Stewart was a chance to return, the injury would have to be at the lowest level of severity.

“If the club is saying that, then it is not a serious, high-grade Lisfranc injury,” Dr Larkins said.

“Surgery is not considered for minor Lisfranc sprains. It generally requires surgery if it is a high-grade one. If it is a low-grade one you might go into a moon boot and rest the foot and not play sport for six to eight weeks and get better.

“Then you have to train and run and get back to form, so six weeks from here gets you to the end of September as a minimum but the serious ones you usually need to have plates and screws put in to hold all the ligaments and bones together. So (if he is having surgery) I am resigned to the fact Tom will not be in the finals.”

Former Geelong backman Matthew Egan underwent surgery for a Lisfranc injury in 2007 but after attempts to come back too early never played AFL football again.

Collingwood star Dane Swan also had his career ended by a Lisfranc injury.

But despite the seriousness of the injury, Dr Larkins said if Stewart followed the right procedures he had a strong chance of returning to his full capabilities next year.

“In the general sense, people come back to full performance and are not restricted, but there is a small group who develop a lot of scar tissue or arthritis through the middle of the foot from the damage to the joint,” he said.

“So, I can’t say that 100 per cent of people come back, but I will say that if it is done well and treated well then you would expect Tom Stewart to come back and play to his capabilities if there are no complications.

“But we judge Lisfranc injuries at the six-month mark, not the six-week mark, so it really is a three-to-six month process if you have surgery and that takes you right through the summer.”

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Parfitt actually having surgery on his hamstring. Be a decent 3 months off. Not great for next years prep either. Esp at his age

Parfitt will begin a rehabilitation program with the club expecting him to commence full pre-season training later this year.

 

[Zuta]

Does anybody know if Stewart injured his left or right foot? Can't see an answer anywhere and I'm hoping it's his left as you'd think it would help to not have to also worry about kicking with it.

 

[Sttew]

Just hearing (or partially hearing) on the news a Geelong defender in doubt for tomorrow night's game. Any idea who that is and what the injury is?

 

[Commando]

Just hearing (or partially hearing) on the news a Geelong defender in doubt for tomorrow night's game. Any idea who that is and what the injury is?

Hendo fitness test apparently
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[STPer18]

Just hearing (or partially hearing) on the news a Geelong defender in doubt for tomorrow night's game. Any idea who that is and what the injury is?

Henderson hamstring is a test.

 

[Sttew]

Henderson hamstring is a test.

Another f% hamstring?

 

[STPer18]

Another f% hamstring?

Reckon some of our boys have been smashing the deadlifts this year.

 

[Down at K Park]

Reckon some of our boys have been smashing the deadlifts this year.

Not unless they are Romanian, or stiff legged deadlifts. Regular deads aren’t hamstring intensive.

 

[keyboard_warrior]

Not unless they are Romanian, or stiff legged deadlifts. Regular deads aren’t hamstring intensive.

In theory

once you get heavy you will exhaust everything in your posterior chain. and if glutes are fatigued hammys will take over the load

 

[Down at K Park]

In theory

once you get heavy you will exhaust everything in your posterior chain. and if glutes are fatigued hammys will take over the load

They aren’t the drivers of the movement though. You aren’t doing deads to work your hamstrings.

 

[keyboard_warrior]

They aren’t the drivers of the movement though. You aren’t doing deads to work your hamstrings.

no, you do deadlifts to get strong

deadlifts require hip extension
hip extension = glutes and hamstrings
max effort requires maximal muscle fibre recruitment
your body doesnt train muscles, it trains movements or movement patterns
if someone is already hamstring dominant for hip extension have a guess at what will be recruited first