List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Academy, Contracts, Trading & Draft

Giant Strides · Sep 30, 2021

Some more trade and draft resources. Courtesy of Lore.

Key Off-Season Dates
This is a comprehensive list including dates for draft combines, list lodgements, delisted free agency windows and return to train dates. I had to collate these from three different club websites because the AFL is lazy af and doesn't have it on their website, so thought it might be helpful to share:

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

Grand Final
Saturday September 25

Draft Combine – Vic Country
Friday October 1

Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Wednesday October 3 - Friday October 15

Trade Period (picks and players)
Monday October 4 (9am) – Wednesday October 13 (7.30pm)

Draft Combines (States and Regions)
VM: Saturday October 9 (tbc)
Qld: Sunday October 10
Tas: Monday October 11
SA: Saturday October 16
WA: Sunday October 17
NSW & ACT: tbc
NT: will join SA or Qld

Trade Period (picks only)
Monday October 18 – Monday November 15

List Lodgement 1
Friday October 29

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Wednesday November 3 – Tuesday November 9

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Wednesday November 10

Delisted Free Agency Window 3
Thursday November 11 – Monday November 15

AFL Pre-Season Commences (First to fourth year players)
Monday November 22

National Draft
Round 1: Wednesday November 24 (7pm)
Round 2–end: Thursday November 25 (7pm)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26 (3.20pm)

Final List Lodgement
Monday November 29

Pre-Season Commences (All other players)
Monday December 6

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday December 19 - Sunday January 9

Draft Order & Future Pick Tracker

FAQs & Resources Thread

It has an index at the top with threadmarks so it's easy to find what you're looking for – or easier than scrolling through 250 pages of AFL Rules, Regulations and CBA pdfs anyway.

These sorts of questions are all answered along with a bunch of other resources made by posters from across BigFooty (feel free to add to it!):

Resource - FAQs: Rules, Regulations and Resources for Player Movements in the AFL

List sizes Club age and height profiles Salary cap information Trading rules including salary dumps Father/son & academy draft bids Free agency compensation formula & more

www.bigfooty.com

GWS List Summary

Senior List

33: 36 less delisted Shipley & Hutchesson, delisted Wehr (to be reselected in rookie draft), traded Finlayson, plus DFA signing of Brander. 3 to 5 spots available at ND.

1 Phil Davis - 2022
2 Jacob Hopper - 2023
3 Stephen Coniglio - 2026
4 Toby Greene - 2026
5 Tanner Bruhn - 2022
6 Lachie Whitfield - 2027
7 Lachlan Ash - 2023
8 Callan Ward - 2022
9 Ryan Angwin - 2022
10 Jacob Wehr - 2022 [delisted with an agreement to select in the rookie draft]
11 Brayden Preuss - 2023
12 Tom Green - 2023
13 Isaac Cumming - 2022
14 Tim Taranto - 2022
15 Sam Taylor - 2025
16 Brent Daniels - 2025
18 Conor Stone - 2024
19 Nick Haynes - 2024
22 Josh Kelly - 2029
23 Jesse Hogan - 2022
24 Matthew De Boer - 2022
25 Lachlan Keeffe - 2022
26 Jake Riccardi - 2023
27 Harry Himmelberg - 2023
29 Cam Fleeton - 2022
30 Matt Flynn - 2023
32 Kieran Briggs - 2022
33 Xavier O'Halloran - 2022
36 Harry Perryman - 2022
37 Ian Hill - 2022
39 Connor Idun - 2022
40 Adam Kennedy - 2022
44 Jack Buckley - 2022

+ Jarrod Brander - 2022 (selected in first DFA window)

Rookie List - A

4: 7 less delisted Reid & Buntine, retired Shane Mumford. 0 to 2 spots available for rookie draft.

28 Zach Sproule - 2022
38 Daniel Lloyd - 2022
42 Jake Stein - 2022
45 James Peatling - 2022

Rookie List - B

2: full

35 Will Shaw - 2022
46 Callum M Brown - 2022 (Irish international rookie, extended 1 year under COVID rules)

Andre the Giant · Oct 7, 2021

Bobby has a young partner from WA who has a bub on the way, his best mate just left the club.

At his best he’s a good player but he does still fade in and out of games.

I do think his tackle chase development has been greatly improved.

If he left we would really need to have a good look at Rachele as a like for like replacement.

JC100 · Oct 7, 2021

Although it creates a logjam in the key forwards/rucks it makes us a better team.

I don’t care how many tricks a key forward has in his kit bag if they can’t take a park mark and/or bring it to ground they are useless in September. Our forward structure peaked in 2016 with Cameron, Patton and Lobb. Lobb, Hogan and HH has the same feel about it and would be extremely difficult for opposition to defend.
Draft Rachele and have Greene, Rachele, Daniels, Lloyd, hill, stone at their feet

how good to we look with Hogan clunking marks? Get two blokes inside 50 doing and happy days

Danny88 · Oct 7, 2021

JC100 said:
Although it creates a logjam in the key forwards/rucks it makes us a better team.

I don’t care how many tricks a key forward has in his kit bag if they can’t take a park mark and/or bring it to ground they are useless in September. Our forward structure peaked in 2016 with Cameron, Patton and Lobb. Lobb, Hogan and HH has the same feel about it and would be extremely difficult for opposition to defend.
Draft Rachele and have Greene, Rachele, Daniels, Lloyd, hill, stone at their feet

how good to we look with Hogan clunking marks? Get two blokes inside 50 doing and happy days

It’s a good sell

But Lobb isn’t the guy

He hasn’t kicked 30 goals in a season yet has he?

Maximus 2011 · Oct 7, 2021

Danny88 said:
It’s a good sell

But Lobb isn’t the guy

He hasn’t kicked 30 goals in a season yet has he?

I agree. His good games are good but his bad games are very very bad. Remind you of someone else? Finlayson anyone? Who we traded for a future third round pick… and you guys are happy to get Lobb for a second round pick. *shakes me head*

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Giant Strides · Oct 7, 2021

Ahh *. And now double *.

JC100 · Oct 7, 2021

Danny88 said:
It’s a good sell

But Lobb isn’t the guy

He hasn’t kicked 30 goals in a season yet has he?

Doesnt have to kick big numbers himself. Jackson/brown/McDonald didn’t kick big numbers either.

structure up with the right players and it creates goals for the team.

Danny88 · Oct 7, 2021

JC100 said:
Doesnt have to kick big numbers himself. Jackson/brown/McDonald didn’t kick big numbers either.

structure up with the right players and it creates goals for the team.

He was their number one forward when fit

A key forward that doesn’t kick goals is a bust

Plus he only plays half a season each year

captainMyCaptain · Oct 7, 2021

Andre the Giant said:
Bobby has a young partner from WA who has a bub on the way, his best mate just left the club.

At his best he’s a good player but he does still fade in and out of games.

I do think his tackle chase development has been greatly improved.

If he left we would really need to have a good look at Rachele as a like for like replacement.

If its on Bobby's or his partners mind that once his current contract ends next year they plans to head back to W.A then now is the right time to make that move but if he is fully committed to be with us long term then I would rather 10 years of Bobby then 2-4 years of Lobb.

Giant Strides · Oct 7, 2021

At least ToJ while inconsistent was cheap. It seems likely that Rory will be the first, but unlikely to be the second.

Ichabod Noodle · Oct 7, 2021

captainMyCaptain said:

WARNING!! WARNING!!

FLIGHT RISK
FLIGHT RISK

also - completely lacks any judgement or common sense

somebody else please

GWS Goose · Oct 7, 2021

Giant Strides said:
At least ToJ while inconsistent was cheap. It seems likely that Rory will be the first, but unlikely to be the second.

Finlayson was pretty well paid

OrangeDuck · Oct 7, 2021

At least there isn’t reports of Lobb for Cogs… yet.

Glek · Oct 7, 2021

If Hill does want to go back to WA what is a reasonable pick for him?

Freo have 22 ... pretty much what we paid. We could be consistent and run the same line Freo did with Cerra - we want back close to what we paid.

Or would we look to upgrade 13?

Freo Give Lobb & 22
Gws Give Hill & Future 2nd

or

Freo Give Lobb & 6
GWS Give Hill & 13 & Future 2nd
This values Hill around pick 35

Orange crush · Oct 7, 2021

Glek are you Matt Rendell?

GWS Goose · Oct 7, 2021

there is no talk of Bobby wanting to leave apart from here

Glek · Oct 7, 2021

Orange crush said:
Glek are you Matt Rendell?

hahah No ... you are the 2nd person to ask that. I ignored the other one but happy to say 100% no ... why do you ask. Do I sound like him?

Colonial · Oct 7, 2021

GWS Goose said:
there is no talk of Bobby wanting to leave apart from here

I have heard a rumour, take it how you want, that he and his wife with a young child were struggling and it was a possibility that he may want to go west. I hoped it wasn’t true but something like this opens it up. Will be a big day tomorrow me thinks.

Glek · Oct 7, 2021

GWS Goose said:
there is no talk of Bobby wanting to leave apart from here

Didnt Andre post saying fox News reporting Hill may be a target?

Giant Strides · Oct 7, 2021

I'd love to dismiss a lot of this chat as just media rubbish, but unfortunately rumours seem to take on a reality at trade time.

Midnite65 · Oct 8, 2021

GWS Goose said:
there is no talk of Bobby wanting to leave apart from here

HE averages less than 10 disposals a game, we already have too many players on our list that do that.

PMBangers · Oct 8, 2021

Midnite65 said:
HE averages less than 10 disposals a game, we already have too many players on our list that do that.

I agree, he stays at GWS

Colonial · Oct 8, 2021

Young’s playing games again.

annoying because I read them and get fired up.

Giant Strides · Oct 8, 2021

General Giant said:
Young’s playing games again.

annoying because I read them and get fired up.

Yep, what a snake.

Danny88 · Oct 8, 2021

Midnite65 said:
HE averages less than 10 disposals a game, we already have too many players on our list that do that.

We all want to keep him for a reason

Would instantly be your best X factor small

Maximus 2011 · Oct 8, 2021

Danny88 said:
We all want to keep him for a reason

Would instantly be your best X factor small

I think Walters might have something to say about that

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