List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Academy, Contracts, Trading & Draft

Giant Strides · Sep 30, 2021

Some more trade and draft resources. Courtesy of Lore.

Key Off-Season Dates
This is a comprehensive list including dates for draft combines, list lodgements, delisted free agency windows and return to train dates. I had to collate these from three different club websites because the AFL is lazy af and doesn't have it on their website, so thought it might be helpful to share:

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

Grand Final
Saturday September 25

Draft Combine – Vic Country
Friday October 1

Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Wednesday October 3 - Friday October 15

Trade Period (picks and players)
Monday October 4 (9am) – Wednesday October 13 (7.30pm)

Draft Combines (States and Regions)
VM: Saturday October 9 (tbc)
Qld: Sunday October 10
Tas: Monday October 11
SA: Saturday October 16
WA: Sunday October 17
NSW & ACT: tbc
NT: will join SA or Qld

Trade Period (picks only)
Monday October 18 – Monday November 15

List Lodgement 1
Friday October 29

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Wednesday November 3 – Tuesday November 9

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Wednesday November 10

Delisted Free Agency Window 3
Thursday November 11 – Monday November 15

AFL Pre-Season Commences (First to fourth year players)
Monday November 22

National Draft
Round 1: Wednesday November 24 (7pm)
Round 2–end: Thursday November 25 (7pm)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26 (3.20pm)

Final List Lodgement
Monday November 29

Pre-Season Commences (All other players)
Monday December 6

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday December 19 - Sunday January 9

Draft Order & Future Pick Tracker

FAQs & Resources Thread

It has an index at the top with threadmarks so it's easy to find what you're looking for – or easier than scrolling through 250 pages of AFL Rules, Regulations and CBA pdfs anyway.

These sorts of questions are all answered along with a bunch of other resources made by posters from across BigFooty (feel free to add to it!):

Resource - FAQs: Rules, Regulations and Resources for Player Movements in the AFL

List sizes Club age and height profiles Salary cap information Trading rules including salary dumps Father/son & academy draft bids Free agency compensation formula & more

www.bigfooty.com

GWS List Summary

Senior List

33: 36 less delisted Shipley & Hutchesson, delisted Wehr (to be reselected in rookie draft), traded Finlayson, plus DFA signing of Brander. 3 to 5 spots available at ND.

1 Phil Davis - 2022
2 Jacob Hopper - 2023
3 Stephen Coniglio - 2026
4 Toby Greene - 2026
5 Tanner Bruhn - 2022
6 Lachie Whitfield - 2027
7 Lachlan Ash - 2023
8 Callan Ward - 2022
9 Ryan Angwin - 2022
10 Jacob Wehr - 2022 [delisted with an agreement to select in the rookie draft]
11 Brayden Preuss - 2023
12 Tom Green - 2023
13 Isaac Cumming - 2022
14 Tim Taranto - 2022
15 Sam Taylor - 2025
16 Brent Daniels - 2025
18 Conor Stone - 2024
19 Nick Haynes - 2024
22 Josh Kelly - 2029
23 Jesse Hogan - 2022
24 Matthew De Boer - 2022
25 Lachlan Keeffe - 2022
26 Jake Riccardi - 2023
27 Harry Himmelberg - 2023
29 Cam Fleeton - 2022
30 Matt Flynn - 2023
32 Kieran Briggs - 2022
33 Xavier O'Halloran - 2022
36 Harry Perryman - 2022
37 Ian Hill - 2022
39 Connor Idun - 2022
40 Adam Kennedy - 2022
44 Jack Buckley - 2022

+ Jarrod Brander - 2022 (selected in first DFA window)

Rookie List - A

4: 7 less delisted Reid & Buntine, retired Shane Mumford. 0 to 2 spots available for rookie draft.

28 Zach Sproule - 2022
38 Daniel Lloyd - 2022
42 Jake Stein - 2022
45 James Peatling - 2022

Rookie List - B

2: full

35 Will Shaw - 2022
46 Callum M Brown - 2022 (Irish international rookie, extended 1 year under COVID rules)

Mr Magic · Oct 11, 2021

Hendo_21 said:
Wingard could free up Toby to play patches in the midfield which gives us a speed/burst dynamic that we're currently missing in there. Don't think we'd see him there as a full time mid but maybe as a 65% forward/35% mid would be great to see. Would need other guys be ok with taking smaller midfield roles but if everyone is willing to buy in it would give us a really flexible mid with plenty of guys running through there.

Honestly I think Wingard will set you back.

You need someone young and vibrant and energetic who kicks goals. Better off trying to draft a player. Even Rachelle in this years draft.

Cody Weightman would be nice but not Wingard who lacks the edge these days

Curnivore · Oct 11, 2021

Mr Magic said:
Honestly I think Wingard will set you back.

You need someone young and vibrant and energetic who kicks goals. Better off trying to draft a player. Even Rochelle in this years draft.

Cody Weightman would be nice but not Wingard who lacks the edge these days

Toby would cop most of the attention though, leaving wingard to receive far less attention than he’s probably ever got.

Mr Magic · Oct 11, 2021

Curnivore said:
Toby would cop most of the attention though, leaving wingard to receive far less attention than he’s probably ever got.

Just because Wingard becomes available does not mean he is the guy for GWS or another club unless he can play the role they want

Mr Magic · Oct 11, 2021

Curnivore said:
Toby would cop most of the attention though, leaving wingard to receive far less attention than he’s probably ever got.

If CFC still had 6 they could have traded it to GWS to get Rachelle

Giant Strides · Oct 11, 2021

There are definitely reasons that Wingard would improve the GWS team as a whole, and the forward line specifically (which is an area that does need work, or just Jesse Hogan becoming fit and playing most games).

However, I still believe that there are negatives and certainly risks to bringing him in. But the biggest issue of all, he doesn't seem to want to come to GWS.

I understand teams can ask - look at Bobby, it would appear that Essendon has turned his head when a few weeks ago he was perfectly happy. But if we get a 'no', then it's time to move on. I'm also quite fine with keeping Bobby and the club working to support he and his family once baby comes even more than I'm sure we already do. If we do let him go, we need to get something that is fair to the club, and can help offset his loss.

I know there are differing thoughts regarding Josh Rachelle, but he's one who might be a strong replacement (and he does have Toby as a role model) if we can get to a good position in the draft.

GWS Goose · Oct 11, 2021

Curnivore said:
On talent but not on need.
if you keep pick 2 and land both I’d say that’s a pretty unreal off season. They are both improving your list and would make you an even more serious contender for a flag in 22

my issue would be salary cap, we'd be looking to increase all of Green, Ash, Bruhn and other shortly, we will need the funds to do that. Having Lobb and Wingard theyd be wanting good coin and may add short term, but cost us long term.

Callums_Guns · Oct 11, 2021

Mr Magic said:
Honestly I think Wingard will set you back.

You need someone young and vibrant and energetic who kicks goals. Better off trying to draft a player. Even Rachelle in this years draft.

Cody Weightman would be nice but not Wingard who lacks the edge these days

RECAP: All the action as it happened from day eight of Trade Period

Join our rolling news story as we bring you all the action from the Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period

www.afl.com.au

Ankle surgery for Weightman, out for 3 months but we have seen the issues we have had with Cogs after his recovery

Giant Strides · Oct 11, 2021

Really disappointed in Bobby if this is true. Right now, really don't care if we trade him out, but if we do certainly need to extract full measure.

PaythePerryman · Oct 11, 2021

GWS Goose said:
my issue would be salary cap, we'd be looking to increase all of Green, Ash, Bruhn and other shortly, we will need the funds to do that. Having Lobb and Wingard theyd be wanting good coin and may add short term, but cost us long term.

Taranto is gonna be a huge one too.
We are a club that is all about retention.

That said.. winning helps with retention.
Hawks trade would have to include salary which would increase how good the pick is.

Colonial · Oct 11, 2021

Giant Strides said:
Really disappointed in Bobby if this is true. Right now, really don't care if we trade him out, but if we do certainly need to extract full measure.

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Stuff him he goes nowhere unless the Bombers pay up.

Pres · Oct 11, 2021

General Giant said:
Stuff him he goes nowhere unless the Bombers pay up.

Couldn't agree more. Need to play ultra hard ball here.

Hendo_21 · Oct 11, 2021

PaythePerryman said:
Taranto is gonna be a huge one too.
We are a club that is all about retention.

That said.. winning helps with retention.
Hawks trade would have to include salary which would increase how good the pick is.

Can't imagine they would look at bringing in Wingard and Lobb without leaving themselves enough cap space to re-sign the key guys out of contract next year.

Taylor Moss · Oct 11, 2021

Mr Magic said:
Just because Wingard becomes available does not mean he is the guy for GWS or another club unless he can play the role they want

We’ve all read your pie in the sky (borderline psychotic) opinions on what we need. Not sure why a Tigers supporter spends so much time worrying about our list.

Especially with fanciful rubbish you’ve posted in the past.

Orange crush · Oct 11, 2021

Giant Strides said:
Really disappointed in Bobby if this is true. Right now, really don't care if we trade him out, but if we do certainly need to extract full measure.

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What a little shit ..... hope we make him wait a year

Giant Strides · Oct 11, 2021

Wingard doesn't want to come to Giants. That's fine from my perspective, because I don't really want him here. So can the club please drop that approach - it would be completely counter-productive to bring a guy in who doesn't want to be here.

Pres · Oct 11, 2021

Didn't Hill have off field red flags raised in his draft year which led to him slipping significantly?

Danny88 · Oct 11, 2021

Curnivore said:
On talent but not on need.
if you keep pick 2 and land both I’d say that’s a pretty unreal off season. They are both improving your list and would make you an even more serious contender for a flag in 22

We absolutely do not need Lobb

Class in the forward half? Howe def need that

Danny88 · Oct 11, 2021

GWS Goose said:
my issue would be salary cap, we'd be looking to increase all of Green, Ash, Bruhn and other shortly, we will need the funds to do that. Having Lobb and Wingard theyd be wanting good coin and may add short term, but cost us long term.

But if we won a premiership off of the back of it ….. who cares?

Hendo_21 · Oct 11, 2021

With Wingard looking looking very unlikely at this point think I'm happy just to carry over the cap space that we've free'd up this year and carry it into next year with Finlayson and Bobby on the way out and leave Lobb at Freo don't think he fills any holes for us.

Colonial · Oct 11, 2021

Hendo_21 said:
With Wingard looking looking very unlikely at this point think I'm happy just to carry over the cap space that we've free'd up this year and carry it into next year with Finlayson and Bobby on the way out and leave Lobb at Freo don't think he fills any holes for us.

yep seems Lobb want more coin, in that case no thanks. Will take our picks to the draft and back in what we have, which is still great.

gee whiz giant · Oct 11, 2021

General Giant said:
yep seems Lobb want more coin, in that case no thanks. Will take our picks to the draft and back in what we have, which is still great.

Thank goodness Wingard is a no. Would have brought Finlayson-style petulance to a whole another level.

Giant Strides · Oct 11, 2021

So, according to this SEN report, Lobb isn't prepared to take that much of a pay cut to come back to GWS. It seems to be another Colin Young shonk - dangle a story that's not the whole truth to both sides. More years at not much less $. Time to put that potential trade to bed. Let's just take our picks to the draft.

New twist emerges in Rory Lobb trade scenario (sen.com.au)

Rory Lobb has still hasn’t requested a trade away from Fremantle despite negotiations already taking place on a deal to send him back to GWS, according to SEN Chief Sports Reporter Sam Edmund. The 28-year-old remains contracted to the Dockers until 2023, with the Giants recently made aware of Lobb’s interest to a move back to the club where he spent five seasons between 2014 and 2018.

Edmund reports that despite the talk around Lobb’s possible move to GWS, he still hasn’t handed in a formal trade request, largely due to the terms of the Giants offer. “The Giants would be willing to offer a future second-round pick to make (the deal) happen,” he said on AFL Trade Radio’s Trade Afternoons.

“For all the negotiations that are taking place, Rory Lobb hasn’t actually requested a trade from Fremantle. It’s a bit strange, he hasn’t requested a trade because the deal from GWS isn’t to his liking. We know he’s prepared to play for less, he and his management are aware of the situation. GWS has a four-year offer there, the terms aren’t the issue. It’s the money that’s the issue. How much less is he prepared to play for? Maybe not as less as we’re led to believe.”

Orange crush · Oct 11, 2021

Geez the more that comes out about the Hill deal the smellier it seems .... was already offered 4 years by essrnflogs before he told the club

Giant Strides · Oct 11, 2021

Orange crush said:
Geez the more that comes out about the Hill desk the smellier it seems .... was already offered 4 years by essrnflogs before he told the club

So, in contract, offered 4 years by Bombers, waits until the trade period's almost over to squeeze us, puts out a BS ''compassionate reasons'' excuse to squeeze us even more. But worth **** all according to Bombers' fans!

Dodo can shove that where the sun don't shine.

Colonial · Oct 11, 2021

so a contracted player was offered 4 years by another club before the trade period started?

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