Opinion 2021 Non-Crows AFL 3: Things Fall Apart!

[CrowsB4hoes]

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Just gone and deleted all references to the Suns on his Twitter profile too.

 

[Mego Red]

I think GWS will be the big winners here, I can see the Suns needing to do some damage control and PR and snare Pick 2 for Callaghan, having lost Greenwood.

Probably will have to pay overs to get it too.

All GWS really need to do is to say this is what the Crows have offered us, can you beat it or we are giving to the Crows?

PR to who?

They don't have a supporter base to placate.

 

[Mego Red]

Like I posted before I can’t remember if he had a actual “Contract” but he certainly slam dunked a commitment

He had a 3 year deal with the Wildcats.

 

[Mego Red]

Greenwood's decision coukd be a double whammy

Not sure if GC would have traded Will Brodie

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Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

if they knew they would be losing Greenwood

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Yeah, Brodie was a salary dump as well.

 

[GROTTO]

PR to who?

They don't have a supporter base to placate.

The 10-15 posters on Bigfooty.

 

[Geoffa32]

Just gone and deleted all references to the Suns on his Twitter profile too.

No doubt his initial Tweet was instructed by the SUNS PR team.


The bloke was shafted, and it bit the Suns in the arse.

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[Geoffa32]

Strange how Gold Coast don't seem upset at all.

Got to wonder if the Suns did want his salary gone.

They have Luko and Rankine's contracts coming up and 400k split between them is handy.





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[Sanders]

He's signing as a DFA though, not being drafted. So this is on Hugh, considering he said he was going back to the Suns sounds like he's pulled a fast one on 'em.

a bad look Hugh.

let’s not forget he bailed on the Perth Wildcats just after signing a new 3 yr contract with them, to come over to us

GC perhaps a little surprised that he couldn’t be trusted.

 

[MRB37]

Greenwood's decision coukd be a double whammy

Not sure if GC would have traded Will Brodie if they knew they would be losing Greenwood

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May not have traded away pick 19 either. The way they're going they'll have to use those 2022 picks they got to trade back into this year's draft.

 

[Sanders]

Has he though? Wasn’t top 10 in their b&f this year, 4th last year. Reached his ceiling. Not really what you want to focus on with the young talent they’ve got.

only played 15 games this year due to injury.

also, no chance of being a 4d chess move by GC. As that requires someone else to offer him a bigger deal sufficient for him to want to up sticks and take it. You just can’t scheme that out

 

[MRB37]

a bad look Hugh.

let’s not forget he bailed on the Perth Wildcats just after signing a new 3 yr contract with them, to come over to us

GC perhaps a little surprised that he couldn’t be trusted.

He's probably shown at this point he's a mercenary who'll go for the $. That's fine, as long as you don't try and pretend it's something that it's not. You'll probably hear all platitudes about North having an exciting young list, good chance for him to make an impact on an up and coming team etc etc when it's just they offered him the most cash.

 

[Sanders]

Because the delisted player has to agree to it

no they don’t.

the clubs do not require the players consent to delist or re-draft the player. Even a contracted one.

good practice would involve consultation etc. But permission is not needed

 

[Cap]

He's probably shown at this point he's a mercenary who'll go for the $. That's fine, as long as you don't try and pretend it's something that it's not. You'll probably hear all platitudes about North having an exciting young list, good chance for him to make an impact on an up and coming team etc etc when it's just they offered him the most cash.

Wasn't GC the club that gave him 4 instead of the 2 we offered? No idea if they were the only club into him

 

[Sanders]

Strange how Gold Coast don't seem upset at all.

what are they supposed to say? Look at how ridiculous Sydney appeared throwing their toys out of the pram.

Greenwood went back to GC, they upped their offer but not to the same level as North.

they left themselves open, and unfortunately it backfired.

no benefit in throwing a tantrum for the crowds now

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

no they don’t.

the clubs do not require the players consent to delist or re-draft the player. Even a contracted one.

good practice would involve consultation etc. But permission is not needed

Poorly worded on my part. Player needs to agree to it to make it come off.

Anyway if I’m the Suns I’m thrilled at this outcome. Even if it’s a balls up, they’re better off as a result.

 

[Sanders]

Poorly worded on my part. Player needs to agree to it to make it come off.

North had to come in for Hugh before he got any agency in the situation; without that he was powerless

Anyway if I’m the Suns I’m thrilled at this outcome. Even if it’s a balls up, they’re better off as a result.

They increased their offer to him so they weren’t that keen to see him go.

If they really wanted shot of him they could just have put him up for trade, North clearly would have given them something for him

Curiously I wonder if Nobles knowledge of how the Crows snaffled him from the NBL informed North’s approach? He’s a sucker for a better contract so he might just take the bait…

 

[GROTTO]

Glory be, I guess if they can have Top Gun 2.........








It’s officially on. Mel Gibson confirmed on the weekend, during a live Q+A in the UK, that he will indeed be directing “Lethal Weapon 5”. Production, we hear, is due to kick off in the New Year.

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[CrowsB4hoes]

North had to come in for Hugh before he got any agency in the situation; without that he was powerless



They increased their offer to him so they weren’t that keen to see him go.

If they really wanted shot of him they could just have put him up for trade, North clearly would have given them something for him

Curiously I wonder if Nobles knowledge of how the Crows snaffled him from the NBL informed North’s approach? He’s a sucker for a better contract so he might just take the bait…

Maybe they need to do a George Costanza and just do the opposite of what their list management instinct says.

 

[Mutineer]

Sydney getting another leg up...

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The AFL’s two NSW clubs can pay some staff an extra $7000 outside the football department soft cap to combat soaring housing prices in Sydney.

The AFL has given its two Sydney clubs the scope to spend extra money on staff outside the football department soft cap to help combat soaring house prices.
News Corp understands GWS Giants and Sydney Swans have been permitted to pay some staff an extra $7000 each as part of an accommodation allowance for next season.

Across approximately 20 staff at each club it is worth about an extra $140,000 per year outside the football department soft cap.

But the allowance must be club-funded and can only be used on full-time staff who earn under $250,000 a year.

 

[UcantCme]

Maybe they need to do a George Costanza and just do the opposite of what their list management instinct says.

Sounds like the GC is run by Yankee Management and Mr Stienbrenner

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[CrowsB4hoes]

Sounds like the GC is run by Yankee Management and Mr Stienbrenner

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“I’m overweight, piss in public, and gave up my football career to chase a wannabe Hollywood actress i started dating when she was under age.”

“Hire that man”

 

[Thetrader15]

Got to wonder if the Suns did want his salary gone.

They have Luko and Rankine's contracts coming up and 400k split between them is handy.





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Or $400k for Luko...I don't think Rankine will be in Qld.

 

[BrissyCrow]

Sorry, so you think it's ok that it's possible to provide context to a Premier and state CHO telling their constituents to not get vaccinated? Even if you do consider that reasonable, you must understand the damage this does to those on the margins in terms of getting them on side.

Such a drama queen. I simply corrected your statement and then if you read on you will see that I agreed that the CHO stuffed up big time. No need to ctritise my comment at all.

 

[moogerfooger]

Maybe they need to do a George Costanza and just do the opposite of what their list management instinct says.

Or go into work the next day and act like it never happened.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Sounds like the GC is run by Yankee Management and Mr Stienbrenner

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Coincidence that Wayne Campbell is in charge at the Suns ......his time was inglorious at GWS & I was surprised he got another footy gig, other than a club changerooms doorman .....has always acted out of his depth, one of those that speaks well, which disguises incompetence

However, in hindsight, the Suns’ footy boss ultimately says they would have done it differently, had they had their time again.
“I think so (that we’d do it differently),” Campbell continued.

“We needed to do this to get to the three selections in the National Draft.

“You’ll ask me who that is (that we could have picked differently) and I don’t know, if there had of been a better option, we would have done that at the time.”

Admits they would do it different if they had their time over ....but then admits they don't know what they would have done differently

“We were aware that there was the potential for this to happen, but we thought we chose the players that other clubs would potentially pass on, given circumstances,” Campbell said.

“Hugh was one of those, being a 30-year-old and having a year to go on his contract here.

“When it came through yesterday (Sunday) that North Melbourne had made him a very good offer, we got in touch with Hugh and we’ve had a chat with him over the last 24 hours and he goes with our blessing.

Thought ageism would be the barrier .....then back-tracks saying they had a quiet chat ....what about the revised Contract offer & scambling to save face .....all very circumspect in hindsight

“While we didn’t plan for this to happen by any stretch, Hugh goes with our absolute best wishes, and we feel like we’ve got a pretty good midfield that can stand up in 2022.”

Just pure bull****

You just cost Dew his career as an AFL Coach Campbell ......no I don't like Campbell, haven't his entire footy career

“We certainly chatted to him this morning and we’ve had some great conversations with Hugh.

Gold Coast wanted to maintain their age profile and not get any younger, which is why they hoped to recruit Greenwood and the other delisted players through one of the drafts.

“The way our list is set up, the fact we have to have three selections in the draft and with our age profile, the reason behind it is we wanted to maintain our age profile, or not get any younger,” Campbell confirmed.

You have 38 listed players and TEN rookie listed players .....a clear list advantage over the competition
Yet you still finish 16th

You were worried about holding players at the end of next year .....well you just sent a clear message to the playing group and Managers .....this maybe the straw that broke the camels back

But I guess you could throw even more money at underperforming players ....that seems to work