Discussion 2021 Player X v Y v Z

[cotter101]

Walsh vs Neale vs Danger (at around $500k next week)?

Walsh.

 

[Deliverance]

Neale vs Petracca vs Duncan?

 

[jdwood]

L Edwards (18 playing this week) vs Bramble (19 playing this week).

 

[pieman123]

L Edwards (18 playing this week) vs Bramble (19 playing this week).

Would go Edwards if you have 18 playing this week, better job security.

 

[Barnzy]

Neale vs Petracca vs Duncan?

Not Duncan.

I have Petrecca. He's a jet and always look set for 130+ games and does a few silly things to negate a great score. Silly FA or risky kick inside the corridor. It can be frustrating. Having said that, it also would not surprise me if he had a bunch of 130+ games from here.

Tough choice. Fully fit Tracc can easily outscore Neale from here but Neale's game is generally better scored by CD. Coin toss. I'd lean Neale.

 

[stevebbb]

Neale vs Petracca vs Duncan?

Neale out of that lot, hope he goes berserk vs Norf

Otherwise I prefer Jelly and Wines

 

[Deliverance]

Not Duncan.

I have Petrecca. He's a jet and always look set for 130+ games and does a few silly things to negate a great score. Silly FA or risky kick inside the corridor. It can be frustrating. Having said that, it also would not surprise me if he had a bunch of 130+ games from here.

Tough choice. Fully fit Tracc can easily outscore Neale from here but Neale's game is generally better scored by CD. Coin toss. I'd lean Neale.

Neale out of that lot, hope he goes berserk vs Norf

Otherwise I prefer Jelly and Wines

Thanks, will probably stick with Neale then. Already have Jelly, and can't trust Wines to average more than 110 suddenly in his 9th year.

 

[Barnzy]

Have gone over all my options as non negationables for me is Dangerfield in next week for Lachie Jones and then Grundy in the following week for CCJ. To have enough cash for both moves these are my only options this week:

480k or below forward: Langford (gross)/Hind/Gray/Toby Greene + 580k or below mid Neale/Zerrett
vs
530k or below forward: Dale/Hawkins + 530k or below mid: Only Boak really appeals in this price bracket

Leaning Toby Greene + Neale?

 

[stevebbb]

Have gone over all my options as non negationables for me is Dangerfield in next week for Lachie Jones and then Grundy in the following week for CCJ. To have enough cash for both moves these are my only options this week:

480k or below forward or below: Langford (gross)/Hind/Gray/Toby Greene + 580k mid below Neale/Zerrett
vs
530k or below forward: Dale/Hawkins + 530k or below mid: Only Boak really appeals in this price bracket

Leaning Toby Greene + Neale?

Langford I like, but not for everybody, so I won't bother pushing it

Hind = no. Moved to wing/half forward last game, can't trust that
Gray = no. Could go back to not getting any CBA's very quickly
Greene = yes. Gun

Neale could go 130
Zerrett could go 120
Boak could go 110

Greene + Neale then

 

[Barnzy]

Langford I like, but not for everybody, so I won't bother pushing it

Hind = no. Moved to wing/half forward last game, can't trust that
Gray = no. Could go back to not getting any CBA's very quickly
Greene = yes. Gun

Neale could go 130
Zerrett could go 120
Boak could go 110

Greene + Neale then

Langford the prick is in a perfect price bracket so I may be forced into him after talking him down.

Greene is much more talented IMO but I already have Jelly, Whitfield, Hall, Ziebell as injury risks and probably not enough trades to fix it if it goes pear shaped. So Greene would add to that. Will leave that call to the last minute.

 

[Jiska]

Neale vs Petracca vs Duncan?

Neale & Dunc have a fair bit to drop. Neale needs to show something before even being on the radar

L Edwards (18 playing this week) vs Bramble (19 playing this week).

Edwards

Tough choice. Fully fit Tracc can easily outscore Neale from here but Neale's game is generally better scored by CD. Coin toss. I'd lean Neale.

Neale wins his own contested ball and hits targets. Trac tends to get a fair bit of uncontested before turning it over. Nothing to do with CD.

Have gone over all my options as non negationables for me is Dangerfield in next week for Lachie Jones and then Grundy in the following week for CCJ. To have enough cash for both moves these are my only options this week:

480k or below forward: Langford (gross)/Hind/Gray/Toby Greene + 580k or below mid Neale/Zerrett
vs
530k or below forward: Dale/Hawkins + 530k or below mid: Only Boak really appeals in this price bracket

Leaning Toby Greene + Neale?

Forget Danger until he shows something. Limited midfield time now. Could be a Cripps with no chance to score better. Don’t base your trades around getting him in. Might score 48 or get injured this week.

 

[Barnzy]

Forget Danger until he shows something. Limited midfield time now. Could be a Cripps with no chance to score better. Don’t base your trades around getting him in. Might score 48 or get injured this week.

It's the same situation as Neale for me.

I'm pretty confident worse case is he averages roughly the same as the other options. Best case he averages quite a bit more. Danger at 510k or 490 the week after is too hard to pass up.

 

[Jiska]

It's the same situation as Neale for me.

I'm pretty confident worse case is he averages roughly the same as the other options. Best case he averages quite a bit more. Danger at 510k or 490 the week after is too hard to pass up.

Danger at 490k scoring 70 every week, with limited midfield time, is extremely easy to pass up

 

[Deliverance]

Neale & Dunc have a fair bit to drop. Neale needs to show something before even being on the radar


Edwards


Neale wins his own contested ball and hits targets. Trac tends to get a fair bit of uncontested before turning it over. Nothing to do with CD.


Forget Danger until he shows something. Limited midfield time now. Could be a Cripps with no chance to score better. Don’t base your trades around getting him in. Might score 48 or get injured this week.

Yeah, it's an upgrade to avoid a doughnut and Neale is the upper limit of my budget.
I'm going to have to ride out the season with no oliver or bont

 

[Barnzy]

Danger at 490k scoring 70 every week, with limited midfield time, is extremely easy to pass up

Very little chance he's scoring 70 every week. Why is his midfield time going to be limited when Geelong have Hawkins, Cameron and Rohan as targets up forward?

Danger will get his mid time. They eased him in first game back.

 

[stevebbb]

Very little chance he's scoring 70 every week. Why is his midfield time going to be limited when Geelong have Hawkins, Cameron and Rohan as targets up forward?

Danger will get his mid time. They eased him in first game back.

Jisk is a brick wall, don't even bother trying to change his mind.

Danger had 73% TOG, down from his usual around ~85%. His score will increase, there is no question of that, the question is by how much.

I want to see a few games of higher TOG% before I touch him.

 

[Jiska]

Very little chance he's scoring 70 every week. Why is his midfield time going to be limited when Geelong have Hawkins, Cameron and Rohan as targets up forward?

Danger will get his mid time. They eased him in first game back.

People said little chance Cripps would average less than 100 too.

Guthrie in there now and performing well. Dunc also back.

 

[Jiska]

Jisk is a brick wall, don't even bother trying to change his mind.

Danger had 73% TOG, down from his usual around ~85%. His score will increase, there is no question of that, the question is by how much.

I want to see a few games of higher TOG% before I touch him.

My stubbornness on his scoring is no different to your stubbornness on his TOG. Last weeks score of 66 + 12% extra TOG = 74, so surely it’s more than TOG for you too. It’s form.

And let’s not forget he was 40 odd at quarter time, so scored 26 in three quarters.

Once he scores 90+ 2-3 games in a row, I’ll be as keen as mustard. But at this time of the year with limited trades left, I’m not going to trade him, or anyone in and just hoping they’ll turn it around and produce what they have in the past.

 

[stevebbb]

People said little chance Cripps would average less than 100 too.

Guthrie in there now and performing well. Dunc also back.

Duncan only ever gets a few CBA's. From 1 and up to 7 or 8 is the most I've seen. They prefer him playing outside and running into the contests.

O'Connor is the one who gets lots now with all the tagging. Still, Danger demands midfield time. He had 20 CBA's on the weekend. I think Parfitt, Selwood and Danger will all get less to accommodate Guthrie. Will be interesting to see how they go about it

 

[stevebbb]

My stubbornness on his scoring is no different to your stubbornness on his TOG. Last weeks score of 66 + 12% extra TOG = 74, so surely it’s more than TOG for you too. It’s form.

And let’s not forget he was 40 odd at quarter time, so scored 26 in three quarters.

Once he scores 90+ 2-3 games in a row, I’ll be as keen as mustard. But at this time of the year with limited trades left, I’m not going to trade him, or anyone in and just hoping they’ll turn it around and produce what they have in the past.

I think bringing Danger in this week is silly, never said that was a good idea, I was simply commenting on your saying he's a bad option altogether. I will not touch him unless he's shows good form, which will more than likely come with increased ToG%. I mean, he's still a good player and he's not that old.

You're a harsh judge lol, first game back after 10 rounds out, a major injury, and no preseason, but sure, let's call it "form"

 

[Megabattimus]

L Edwards (18 playing this week) vs Bramble (19 playing this week).

I wouldn't get Edwards until he's named next week. Eagles are getting people back after the bye, including Shuey, so there's every chance Edwards doesn't keep his spot.

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[stevebbb]

I wouldn't get Edwards until he's named next week. Eagles are getting people back after the bye, including Shuey, so there's every chance Edwards doesn't keep his spot.

As a betting man, I would bet on Edwards playing this week. Was one of the reasons they won last weekend, he was immense in the last quarter, usually the time when rookies die off and struggle. They have plenty of spuds that will get dropped before Edwards (Duggan, Waterman, O'Neill, Langdon, Jones, etc)

I'd take him over Bramble

The other option is to get neither, and get Briggs or another DEF or FWD option. Why? Because a midfield bench of Newcombe, a DEF/MID swing (eg. Bianco, with Laird in defence) and a MID/FWD swing (eg. FinMac, with Dusty up forward) is the way to go. Too many mid only rookies on your mid bench means you won't have DPP link on all lines. If you want cash gen, take Edwards, if you want cover, I'd avoid all mid only rookies

 

[Jiska]

I think bringing Danger in this week is silly, never said that was a good idea, I was simply commenting on your saying he's a bad option altogether. I will not touch him unless he's shows good form, which will more than likely come with increased ToG%. I mean, he's still a good player and he's not that old.

You're a harsh judge lol, first game back after 10 rounds out, a major injury, and no preseason, but sure, let's call it "form"

I didn’t say he was a bad option altogether. You’re putting words in my mouth. I said I‘d want to see something from him first, which is exactly what you’re saying.

Forget Danger until he shows something. Limited midfield time now. Could be a Cripps with no chance to score better. Don’t base your trades around getting him in. Might score 48 or get injured this week.

 

[stevebbb]

I didn’t say he was a bad option altogether. You’re putting words in my mouth. I said I‘d want to see something from him first, which is exactly what you’re saying.

Fair enough, I misunderstood.
Well we both agree on this one then mate! don't touch Danger until we see increased TOG% and scoring.

in saying that, I'm almost certain that his scoring will increase as he builds match fitness, the questions are 1. will he stay on the park and 2. by how much. Will it be a 95 average, 100, 105, 110, 115 like last year? time will tell.

Ideally he keeps scoring 70s and drops to $450k before he starts pumping out big scores

 

[Jiska]

Fair enough, I misunderstood.
Well we both agree on this one then mate! don't touch Danger until we see increased TOG% and scoring.

in saying that, I'm almost certain that his scoring will increase as he builds match fitness, the questions are 1. will he stay on the park and 2. by how much. Will it be a 95 average, 100, 105, 110, 115 like last year? time will tell.

Ideally he keeps scoring 70s and drops to $450k before he starts pumping out big scores

Yeah I think it will as well. I was so confident I changed by trade plans and instead of going Atkins to Hall, held Atkins thinking I‘d sideways him to Danger this week or next. As it turns out that’s too soon so now I’ve missed Hall, copped Atkins 35 and a price drop. Hence my advice above to not plan around Danger. Just make the best trades. If Danger returns to form, easy enough to sideways to him at a low price.

Although I’m more confident of Neale returning to his former self than Danger.