List Mgmt. 2021 Trade & List Management Thread II - IN: CCJ

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Lore's 2021 Draft Order

Spoiler: Lore's 2022 Future Picks Draft Order

 

[giantroo]

The Toby Nankervis

25

Toby Nankervis

Age

31

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

2.9

4star

HO

21.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

6.3

4star

CL

3.0

4star

HO

17.0

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

4.4

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

8.4

5star

trade in 2016

The 22-year-old played 12 games in his three years in Sydney, playing 7 games in 2016.
Swans received pick No.46 in return for the talented big man.

 

[nj23]

I have a legitimate question.

How did a non premiership winning team get so many players into the media?

Riewoldt, Dale Santos, Montagna, the Seagull

0 flags between them.

Yet all have media gigs.

Gilligan

 

[Le Grille]

Sorry for the intrusion
Listening to offers for pick 1 is interesting...I wonder if a deal with GWS and Crows would be on the cards.
North lose pick one
North gain Pick 2 (Callaghan) & Crows 2022 1st (most likely top 5)
Giants gain Crows pick 4 (Mac Andrew) and Kangas pick 20
Crows gain pick 1 (Horne)
Crows Lose Pick 4 and 2022 first rouder...
who says no ? All clubs might get their preferred player if North are worried about Horne go home factor.

So we pay pick 20 and down grade pick 1 for a future 1st? Pass

 

[7577969923]

Sorry for the intrusion
Listening to offers for pick 1 is interesting...I wonder if a deal with GWS and Crows would be on the cards.
North lose pick one
North gain Pick 2 (Callaghan) & Crows 2022 1st (most likely top 5)
Giants gain Crows pick 4 (Mac Andrew) and Kangas pick 20
Crows gain pick 1 (Horne)
Crows Lose Pick 4 and 2022 first rouder...
who says no ? All clubs might get their preferred player if North are worried about Horne go home factor.

Not the worst proposal I've seen.

 

[buttox]

The Toby Nankervis trade in 2016

The 22-year-old played 12 games in his three years in Sydney.
Swans received pick No.46 in return for the talented big man.

I like this better.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Sorry for the intrusion
Listening to offers for pick 1 is interesting...I wonder if a deal with GWS and Crows would be on the cards.
North lose pick one
North gain Pick 2 (Callaghan) & Crows 2022 1st (most likely top 5)
Giants gain Crows pick 4 (Mac Andrew) and Kangas pick 20
Crows gain pick 1 (Horne)
Crows Lose Pick 4 and 2022 first rouder...
who says no ? All clubs might get their preferred player if North are worried about Horne go home factor.

 

[Gibson LP]

Does come on steady, hot and strong.

This is the sort of player we need.

 

[giantroo]

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I like this better.

Fair enough but part of that deal was a salary dump as well hence the bargain price.

 

[7577969923]

Fair enough but part of that deal was a salary dump as well hence the bargain price.

And Nankervis a much better player.

 

[1975]

Luff, in the interview mentioned about use of the PSD.

"Hopefully it doesn't get to that point. We don't want to use that to get him through the door. We're pretty comfortable that we'll get something done."

Pretty thinly veiled threat.

 

[buttox]

Fair enough but part of that deal was a salary dump as well hence the bargain price.

Oh I didn't know that.
cheers.

 

[King Corey]

Sorry for the intrusion
Listening to offers for pick 1 is interesting...I wonder if a deal with GWS and Crows would be on the cards.
North lose pick one
North gain Pick 2 (Callaghan) & Crows 2022 1st (most likely top 5)
Giants gain Crows pick 4 (Mac Andrew) and Kangas pick 20
Crows gain pick 1 (Horne)
Crows Lose Pick 4 and 2022 first rouder...
who says no ? All clubs might get their preferred player if North are worried about Horne go home factor.

I don't give a toss about the other clubs so for north:

Best case position -

2021: #2
2022: #1

Worst case position -

2021: #2
2022: #18

Likely position -
2021: #2
2022: #4-10

Too volatile for insufficient gain. And that's me considering it with #1 only. Losing #20 as well? Absolutely no deal.

 

[giantroo]

Oh I didn't know that.
cheers.

No worries, I think the Nank deal is our best example

Nank - drafted at pick 35 , 22 years old , played a total of 12 games over 3 years including 7 in 2016, traded for pick 46
CCJ - drafted at pick 20 , 22 years old, played a total of 9 games over 4 years including 8 in 2021, traded for ???

 

[1975]

Nice work by above posters regarding ruck trades.
luff is all over this, 20 is going nowhere.
I will sleep easily tonight.
This is such a welcome change to we are going to pay buggerlugs a million bucks.

 

[buttox]

No worries, I think the Nank deal is our best example

Nank - drafted at pick 35 , 22 years old , played a total of 12 games over 3 years including 7 in 2016, traded for pick 46
CCJ - drafted at pick 20 , 22 years old, played a total of 9 games over 4 years including 8 in 2021, traded for ???

Yup and if we are subtracting taz. 38 seems a really good deal for the tigers.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Luff, in the interview mentioned about use of the PSD.

"Hopefully it doesn't get to that point. We don't want to use that to get him through the door. We're pretty comfortable that we'll get something done."

Luffy isn't playing games...

 

[The Brady Bunch]

Sorry for the intrusion
Listening to offers for pick 1 is interesting...I wonder if a deal with GWS and Crows would be on the cards.
North lose pick one
North gain Pick 2 (Callaghan) & Crows 2022 1st (most likely top 5)
Giants gain Crows pick 4 (Mac Andrew) and Kangas pick 20
Crows gain pick 1 (Horne)
Crows Lose Pick 4 and 2022 first rouder...
who says no ? All clubs might get their preferred player if North are worried about Horne go home factor.

Let's go to the points.

Our Pick 1 and 20 this year, which will probably end up being 1 and 23 after F/S/Academy picks equates to 3,000 + 815 = 3,815

Your proposal to drop down to Pick 2, which becomes Pick 4 after F/S picks along with Adelaide's 2022 pick, which could be top 5 but with the chance of improvement in their performance (Thirthorpe with a preseason and JHF hitting the ground running) along with possible F/S/Academy picks getting in the way could see that pick dropping to 10 but let's say 8. That's 2,034 + 1,551 = 3,585.

So we are comfortably worse off with this trade and we've let a potential generational player slip through our fingers. Hard pass.

 

[Passmore]

Very confused about this. Every man and his dog knows that KPPs take time and we need more depth/quality in that area.

Panic leads to desperation which leads to overpaying. It's not desperation point. McKay and Corr have got years ahead of them.

 

[King Corey]

Yup and if we are subtracting taz. 38 seems a really good deal for the tigers.

I still think it's too much when Tarrant is factored in.

Richmond potentially walk away with Tarrant, #38 and #45 (Chol) after it all settles.

We gain CCJ for #38 AND Tarrant while forgoing our own chance at compo. Putting the PSD pistol aside, they still need to provide an incentive to trade rather than delist Tarrant and there's none in that deal.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Pretty thinly veiled threat.

No.

Listening to the audio, he sounded very genuine about it, no threats at all.

 

[berniemccarthy]

I don't give a toss about the other clubs so for north:

Best case position -

2021: #2
2022: #1

Worst case position -

2021: #2
2022: #18

Likely position -
2021: #2
2022: #4-10

Too volatile for insufficient gain. And that's me considering it with #1 only. Losing #20 as well? Absolutely no deal.

Thought exactly the same. Need it to be perfect scenario and ADL finish 18th to even be adequate. No upside. Give up 1 and 20 to get 2 and a maybe. I'd shoot Luff myself.

 

[Kangaroos techno]

2022 Darcy Moore

30

Darcy Moore

Age

29

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

169.1

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

0.7

1star

MG

182.0

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

87.4

2star

it is then. You beauty.

 

[7577969923]

Pretty thinly veiled threat.

The thinner the better!

 

[big_e]

We are 100% taking a CHB at 20 by the sounds.

Looks to me like the club have a few talls in sight up the top end of 2022.

Get Rhett.

 

[El Triggso]

Does come on steady, hot and strong.

Would we look at Heater down back for a year? Or has ‘ol Heater had the gong?