List Mgmt. 2021 Trade & List Management Thread II - IN: CCJ

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Spoiler: Lore's 2021 Draft Order

Spoiler: Lore's 2022 Future Picks Draft Order

 

[Waussie]

You’d think SPS & their first would probably get it done for Cerra.
Belly will probably push for more & I hope he does… rort those salary cheats for all they have!

I personally would like to see if we can shake Silvagni from their tree…
maybe I haven’t seen enough of Carlton play, but when I do, he is the only one along with Walsh busting his gut. I like those players.
He is very versatile as well.
I’m guessing O’Brien is out the door also (another Top 10 pick ruined)

He wants to go to WC, that's who he's nominated

 

[New_Roo]

He is out of contract and determined to get back to Melbourne. He may be willing to risk the PSD and go to one of North or Collingwood. If he was there at pick 1 hard to think we wouldn't take him.

The deal you can get done is better than any you can't.

Surely bell isn't going to let him go to psd.... while he will be pushing for a first and some.... if he doesn't get the and some and sure he would take the first as a worse case then nothing.... I know gc did it but still is cutting off your nose to spite your face


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[king of the road]

No way , the pick does slip to pick 8 . The player has proven that he is a worthy pick 6. Even if it didn’t drift to pick 8 you risk the replacement being less than the original. SPS adds no value here hasn’t performed , how long do you give upside? I think the ship has sailed on SPS as a first round talent. It’s a stretch to suggest he projects as a player to have an average second rounder type career.

so an effective 2 pick down grade (ie cerra to pick 8) of a proven player for a hope that he ends up having a second rounder type career is pretty unsatisfactory return on a good valueable talent

Pick downgrade irrelevant.
They still get the 6th best available talent. They were never going to pick Daics or Darcy - so irrelevant if the number drops 2

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Vanilla SPS to Vanilla WCE, sound perfect for each other.

 

[Psicosis]

Worth tuning in to the Jordan Dawson

12

Jordan Dawson

Age

28

Ht

190cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

D

15.7

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

4.9

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.6

3star

trade chat. He is that much better then CCJ & that trade likely gets done for 23 and a late pick swap. Crows won’t budge & Swans will accept unders for an OOC player that wants to leave.

Dawson is that much better then CCJ.

Really shows how ridiculous entertaining Pick 20 for CCJ would be.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

The CCJ will be one of the first trades done, in spite of the jockeying of posters.

 

[Rooboys Rool]

If we get any compo for Taz it will be Band 5. If Dumont leaves it will be either Band 4 or 5. So we are looking at having picks 38, 39 & 40. Rather than trading one of those for CCJ, we should target this:

NM picks 38, 39, 40 & 71 to the Bulldogs
Bulldogs picks 17 & 74 to NM

That's a 344 point gain to the Bulldogs. Not sure if that is about how many points would be needed to get that first pick off the Bulldogs, but it would have to be pretty close.

And then it's sorry Tiges, we only have pick 74 for CCJ. But, as an act of good faith, we'll throw in pick 76 as well.

 

[King Hansen]

The CCJ will be one of the first trades done, in spite of the jockeying of posters.

Future 3rd or PSD.

Straight swap for Taz if Richmond are lucky.

 

[The Y Factor]

Pick downgrade irrelevant.
They still get the 6th best available talent. They were never going to pick Daics or Darcy - so irrelevant if the number drops 2

YES - This whole pick 8 is pick 10 is a waste of time.

you have pick 8 of available talent. The rest are irrelevant.

 

[Luke72]

Crafty has nailed him though [emoji41]

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Whatever he’s done I think he liked it. Touch of the Greg Norman’s about that photo

 

[Le Grille]

Pick downgrade irrelevant.
They still get the 6th best available talent. They were never going to pick Daics or Darcy - so irrelevant if the number drops 2

Well it does they go from the 6th best player in cerras draft to at best the 7th in one (daicos would be top 6 in an open draft and arguably Darcy too)

 

[Hazey1977]

So Richmond want to start a knife fight with a rubber dildo?

Good strategy.

A bit like The Goodies Ecky Thump!

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[Usayed Givashe]

This is why you don’t win meaningless games at the end of the year.

A real life example of why you let the smart people come up with the strategy.

 

[king of the road]

Well it does they go from the 6th best player in cerras draft to at best the 7th in one (daicos would be top 6 in an open draft and arguably Darcy too)

But it's not an open draft - it never is, there's always academy, FS etc. Whenever a pick is traded it's done so with the full knowledge of who is available to pick, from the non-aligned pool in advance. If the pick drops back a couple of places, they're not missing out on any players they thought they could get - so it's irrelevant they drop back a few picks and the number goes from 6 to 8 or whatever.
As to the differing drafts and where they rate Cerra relative to pick 7 this year - thats a different question. But pick 6 dropping to 8 is irrelevant to them.

 

[ferball]

I know I roll with a massive chip on my shoulder, but every f*n player is always pictured against a north bloke…..or it certainly feels like it.

Yeah. You're not trippin' its real.

 

[ferball]

I know I roll with a massive chip on my shoulder, but every f*n player is always pictured against a north bloke…..or it certainly feels like it.

Further to this at the bottom of the page he's posted a vid with pendlebury celebrating. Who is the opposition player in the background.

 

[ferball]

He wants to go to WC, that's who he's nominated

He wants to go to the toilet?

 

[pupstar]

This is why you don’t win meaningless games at the end of the year.

A real life example of why you let the smart people come up with the strategy.

I suppose you could look at it as they are all meaningless except for the last game in September. I am one of those that dont think any games a meaningless but that is just me.

 

[krakouers]

He wants to go to the toilet?

Well if he hasn’t by now he really should see a doctor

 

[Deleted member 98541]

Club should declare publicly, "This is our time to rebuild. 3 out of the last 4 grand finalists have recruited from our club 8n the past 2 years.

We will use any tool available to mitigate this.

Previously, clubs in our position had access to priority picks, we are one of few clubs that have not.

If the PSD is there for us to use, the use it we shall. We owe it to our membership to ....blah blah blah "

 

[Psicosis]

Club should declare publicly, "This is our time to rebuild. 3 out of the last 4 grand finalists have recruited from our club 8n the past 2 years.

We will use any tool available to mitigate this.

Previously, clubs in our position had access to priority picks, we are one of few clubs that have not.

If the PSD is there for us to use, the use it we shall. We owe it to our membership to ....blah blah blah "

Anyone that thinks oppo clubs would not leverage the fk out of PSD on us if roles were reversed, is dreaming.

They might not take X North player via PSD, but they sure as hell would use it to bully us into a corner to accept unders. It’s how the system has been set up. If we don’t leverage it, we are being negligent.

 

[DocSholl]

YES - This whole pick 8 is pick 10 is a waste of time.

you have pick 8 of available talent. The rest are irrelevant.

You're still getting the 10th best kid in the junior system though, so the value of the 8th pick is less when you're talking about trades etc. There's arguments both ways.

 

[The Y Factor]

You're still getting the 10th best kid in the junior system though, so the value of the 8th pick is less when you're talking about trades etc. There's arguments both ways.

my point is we all get it - we do we need keep talking about it. We have pick one , our guy might be pick three using it.

the need to constantly correct people snd talk about it is odd to me

 

[LB2Snake]

Club should declare publicly, "This is our time to rebuild. 3 out of the last 4 grand finalists have recruited from our club 8n the past 2 years.

We will use any tool available to mitigate this.

Previously, clubs in our position had access to priority picks, we are one of few clubs that have not.

If the PSD is there for us to use, the use it we shall. We owe it to our membership to ....blah blah blah "

Agreed. Give us pick 2 and we will pay adequately for CCJ.
if not pick 2 then something substantial.
Until then, fk off, we will use the necessary options at our disposal.
Sick of us being expected to just play quietly while the big boys are talking…..or is that tanking?

 

[Tiberius]

Yeah. You're not trippin' its real.

To be fair, Kreuger's only played 2 games. One of which was against us. So it was pretty much 50/50 who made the photo.