Women's Footy 2022-2023 AFLW season discussion

[briztoon]

It's not clear in that article but I assume it still only applies to uncontracted players.

I have a bad feeling it includes contracted players.

 

[briztoon]

No increase in salary cap so why would our girls want to go? Doubt we lose anyone as the girls still need to want to go

Those clubs could be offering more to our players, than what we’re offering.

There’s also provisions for those clubs to offer extra cash outside the salary cap.

 

[Nathan Barley]

We can afford to lose a few

 

[Dalions]

We can afford to lose a few

Wardlaw already has interest from outside these four clubs.
So if we were to lose Wardlaw, Bates, Hickie, Bodie, Hodder and probably the one I would hate to lose the most Grider?

Not sure we could afford that.
These clubs are only going to come after the best players.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Wardlaw already has interest from outside these four clubs.
So if we were to lose Wardlaw, Bates, Hickie, Bodie, Hodder and probably the one I would hate to lose the most Grider?

Not sure we could afford that.
These clubs are only going to come after the best players.

They did last year as well and we were dominant until the GF

 

[Gadzorks]

This sucks. We put our hands up and took the risk early. Invested in developing players and now we lose finding legends because we have to act 'in the best interested of the competition'.

I don't give a rat's about the new teams, I want our girls to mostly (since will always leave) stay put and build the culture and history of the club.

Not happy.

 

[briztoon]

They did last year as well and we were dominant until the GF

We only lost Tahu before last season.

Things may be a bit different this year. Don’t know how long the women can keep knocking back higher offers.

 

[dlanod]

And if they agree to go?
Or are they allowing clubs to poach players without their consent?

It would only be on agreement between the player and the new club. There is absolutely no way the latter would be true.

 

[dlanod]

I have a bad feeling it includes contracted players.
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There's nothing that says uncontracted only (hence my original post), but it would be very very unusual for the AFL to encourage the breaking of player contracts. Everything to date (both AFL and AFLW) has been uncontracted only.

 

[briztoon]

There's nothing that says uncontracted only (hence my original post), but it would be very very unusual for the AFL to encourage the breaking of player contracts. Everything to date (both AFL and AFLW) has been uncontracted only.

According to the AFLW board, the expansion clubs were able to poach contracted players to help build their initial lists.

 

[trikster]

So basically head office dreamed up a scheme to redistribute talent, because there isn't enough to go around, and they don't care (in fact will probably be happy) if they severely impact the top teams .... nice

 

[dlanod]

According to the AFLW board, the expansion clubs were able to poach contracted players to help build their initial lists.

I don't recall that at all. AFLW players only sign one (or occasionally two) year contracts so it's been pretty academic. The only contracted "poaching" that I recall has been the same "request a trade" model that the AFL use, which gets you pointless draft pick compensation.

There is No Cookies | CODE Sports, which if true means anyone could effectively put themselves out of contract and it's academic.

 

[LionsMaw]

We can afford to lose a few

Can we? Really? Like who?
Our team works bcos the pieces we have fit each other so well.

 

[LionsMaw]

We only lost Tahu before last season.

Things may be a bit different this year. Don’t know how long the women can keep knocking back higher offers.

Higher offers vs the high likelihood of playing finals and GFs.

I know which one I'd prefer. Getting paid more money to play in a team that won't get anywhere near a GF, for probably years, would feel rather empty I would've thought. Plus, money does not last forever but names in history books do.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Can we? Really? Like who?
Our team works bcos the pieces we have fit each other so well.

We won 9 out of 10 games and nearly tripled our opponents score over the season. Only 2 of the other 17 sides were a legitimate chance to beat us on our day.

Try to gain a bit of perspective

 

[LionsMaw]

We won 9 out of 10 games and nearly tripled our opponents score over the season. Only 2 of the other 17 sides were a legitimate chance to beat us on our day.

Try to gain a bit of perspective

Didn't answer the question, who could we afford to lose?
Like I said, the reason our team works is bcos of the pieces we have and if we were to lose the full 5 players (which we won't but this is hypothetical) you honestly think it'll make no difference??

 

[Nathan Barley]

Didn't answer the question, who could we afford to lose?
Like I said, the reason our team works is bcos of the pieces we have and if we were to lose the full 5 players (which we won't but this is hypothetical) you honestly think it'll make no difference??

Wow

For starters our team more than just works. Last year they were ridiculously dominant

Second, never said it would make no difference but we could lose 5-6 and still be a top team with a good chance of winning a premierships (assuming similar happens to Adelaide and Melbourne)

And the comp wouldn't have effectively 4 teams having a bye week each round because the bottom teams wouldn't be so pathetic

 

[LionsMaw]

Wow

For starters our team more than just works. Last year they were ridiculously dominant

Second, never said it would make no difference but we could lose 5-6 and still be a top team with a good chance of winning a premierships (assuming similar happens to Adelaide and Melbourne)

And the comp wouldn't have effectively 4 teams having a bye week each round because the bottom teams wouldn't be so pathetic

Could still lose 5 of our top players and we'd still be dominant? LOL
The one who needs perspective is you bud. Even our talent pool ain't that deep.

 

[LionsMaw]

Wow

For starters our team more than just works. Last year they were ridiculously dominant

Second, never said it would make no difference but we could lose 5-6 and still be a top team with a good chance of winning a premierships (assuming similar happens to Adelaide and Melbourne)

And the comp wouldn't have effectively 4 teams having a bye week each round because the bottom teams wouldn't be so pathetic

And I know our team is dominant BCOS OF the pieces that are there! We lose 5 of our top players we aren't going to be so dominant. Truly shaking my head at you...

 

[Nathan Barley]

Could still lose 5 of our top players and we'd still be dominant? LOL
The one who needs perspective is you bud. Even our talent pool ain't that deep.

My goodness. Did you read what i posted?

Did I say we'd still be dominant?

Can't forget it'll likely impact Melbourne and Adelaide as well

 

[LionsMaw]

My goodness. Do you have a learning difficulty?

Did I say we'd still be dominant?

Can't forget it'll likely impact Melbourne and Adelaide as well

"We could lose 5-6 and still be a top team"

If we were to lose the full 5:

One defender (Campbell or Lutkins), one forward (Wardlaw 22 goals S7 or Dax), 3 mids (any 3 of the following: Bates, Anderson, Bodey, C. Svarc, Dawes).

Still a top team?

No.

 

[Nathan Barley]

"We could lose 5-6 and still be a top team"

If we were to lose the full 5:

One defender (Campbell or Lutkins), one forward (Wardlaw 22 goals S7 or Dax), 3 mids (any 3 of the following: Bates, Anderson, Bodey, C. Svarc, Dawes).

Still a top team?

No.

You must really not rate our depth.

We dominated almost all of our opponents who finished 5th or below. We may be brought back to the pack but should still sit above them

 

[briztoon]

"We could lose 5-6 and still be a top team"

If we were to lose the full 5:

One defender (Campbell or Lutkins), one forward (Wardlaw 22 goals S7 or Dax), 3 mids (any 3 of the following: Bates, Anderson, Bodey, C. Svarc, Dawes).

Still a top team?

No.

Gees, not defending Nathan Barley here, but he didn’t say 5 “top players”. He said 5 players.

Now I don’t know if he meant all 5 from the best 22 or not.

It’s possible we lose 2 or 3 players from just outside our best 22, and maybe 1 or 2 best 22 players.

I believe we could lose 2 or 3 starters, and it not affect us significantly. But losing one of our best key forwards or top inside mids would have a big impact.

Until the AFL puts a dollar figure on that secondary relocation payment, we have no idea what some of our players might be being offered.

$50k to move, plus a 3 or 4 year tier one contract is not something to sneeze at. Especially as Sydney has 5 of those to hand out.

Get the right 5 players to commit and Sydney go from competition easy beats, to a genuine finals chance.

Port have been offered the ability to sign a 17 year old a year early. That didn’t twig your spidey senses why only Port were offered that?

Quoting the number 1 AFLW draft watcher.

I'm being sarcastic haha, it's obviously Lauren Young haha. She's the best (under age) player in the country.

The AFL are putting in place the levers for the weaker clubs to improve, while bringing the stronger clubs back to the pack.

 

[Dalions]

The AFL are putting in place the levers for the weaker clubs to improve, while bringing the stronger clubs back to the pack.

Would prefer our girls win 2 more Premierships before coming back to the pack.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Would prefer our girls win 2 more Premierships before coming back to the pack.

Our version of the Hawthorn threepeat taking advantage of expansion slowing the progression of the weaker clubs