List Mgmt. 2022 Draft Thread - Part I

[George]

Sticking this at the top of each page. If it gets annoying, let me know and I can just put it in the original post of the thread. Credit to Lore

 

[bergholt]

Except he has been playing awesome footy aswell

Oh yeah I know **** all about any of the prospects so I'm sure you're right, just that I love the way the footy media talks up combine stars and then they disappear without a trace

 

[SaintsSeptember]

2013:
Standing vertical jump : = 8th Jonathan Marsh 70cm
Running Vertical jump : = Jason Holmes

Jason Holmes

Age

36

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

4.4

1star

K

1.2

1star

HB

3.2

3star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

26.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

4.4

1star

K

1.2

1star

HB

3.2

3star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

26.8

5star

88cm
20 meter sprint : 1st Jonathan Marsh, 2.78
2nd Nathan Freeman

Nathan Freeman

Age

30

Ht

183cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.5

4star

CL

1.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.5

4star

CL

1.0

3star

, 2.82
Repeat Sprints. 1st Freeman 23.62
3rd Jonathan Marsh, 24.18.
Beep Test. 10th Freeman 14.1
3km Time trial. 7th. Eli Templeton

Eli Templeton

Age

30

Ht

183cm

Wt

73kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.6

2star

K

4.9

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

9.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.8

4star

, 10m 5s.
10th Freeman 10m 15s.

2014:
Vertical Leap. 3rd Daniel McKenzie

36

Daniel Mckenzie

Age

29

Ht

184cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

5.6

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.7

4star

CL

0.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

4.6

2star

HB

8.4

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.0

3star

94cm.
Agility 2nd Daniel McKenzie

36

Daniel Mckenzie

Age

29

Ht

184cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

5.6

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.7

4star

CL

0.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

4.6

2star

HB

8.4

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.0

3star

8.1
10th , Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

29

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

8.37
Repeat Sprints , 4th. Daniel McKenzie

36

Daniel Mckenzie

Age

29

Ht

184cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

5.6

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.7

4star

CL

0.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

4.6

2star

HB

8.4

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.0

3star

24.02
Suttle Run equal 9th , Jack Steele

9

Jack Steele

Age

30

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

, 15.1
3 Km Time Trial. equal 6th Daniel McKenzie

36

Daniel Mckenzie

Age

29

Ht

184cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

5.6

2star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.7

4star

CL

0.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

4.6

2star

HB

8.4

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.0

3star

, 10.07
equal 9th , Jack Steele

9

Jack Steele

Age

30

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

10.11
Kicking efficiency, equal 9th, Jack Steele

9

Jack Steele

Age

30

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

26.
Goal Kicking , equal 9th, Dougal Howard

20

Dougal Howard

Age

29

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

176.2

3star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.7

4star

T

0.6

1star

MG

171.9

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

133.8

3star

, 24
Clean Hands, equal 1st , Dougal Howard

20

Dougal Howard

Age

29

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

176.2

3star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.7

4star

T

0.6

1star

MG

171.9

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

133.8

3star

26.

2015:
Kicking Efficiency, Equal 6th Jade Gresham

11

Jade Gresham

Age

28

Ht

177cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

7.2

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.5

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.4

3star

21.
Nick O'Kearny 21.
Goalkicking, Equal 1st Gresham 30.
O'Kearny 30.
equal 5th. Nick Coughlan.
Clean Hands, Equal 7th, Jade Gresham

11

Jade Gresham

Age

28

Ht

177cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

7.2

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.5

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.4

3star

and Bailey Rice

Bailey Rice

Age

28

Ht

184cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.5

3star

MG

220.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.0

4star

K

11.8

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.2

3star

MG

228.4

4star

. 26

2016:
Kicking Efficiency. 3rd Ben Long

22

Ben Long

Age

28

Ht

186cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

6.2

2star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

12.8

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

13.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

0.6

3star

, 25
10th Josh Battle

24

Josh Battle

Age

27

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

, 23.

2017:
Standing Vertical Jump. 3rd Ben Paton 80cm.
20 meter sprint, 5th Nick Coffield. 2.91
6th Ben Paton 2.95.
Kicking efficiency, 2nd , Jack Higgins , 29
8th Hunter Clark

11

Hunter Clark

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

, 28.

2018: ---
2019: ---
2020: ---
2021: ---

 

[Mighty_sainter]

I’m really high on Jefferson. Something about him. Think he’s mercurial. Can do some pretty incredible things. Just doesn’t have the massive numbers like key forwards of previous years.

Has improved rapidly this year. Seems to have great upside. Cmac or Jefferson and I’d be pretty happy

 

[BrutThough]

Draft still a while away, but the first 10ish picks starting to fall into place.

1 - Brisbane - Ashcroft
2 - GWS - Cadman
3 - North - Wardlaw/Tsatas/Sheezel
4 - North - Wardlaw/Tsatas/Sheezel
5 - Essendon - Wardlaw/Tsatas/Sheezel
6 - GC -
7 - Hawthorn -
8 - Geelong - aiming for Clark
9 - WC - Busslinger
10 - St Kilda -

 

[BrutThough]

Has improved rapidly this year. Seems to have great upside. Cmac or Jefferson and I’d be pretty happy

Jefferson will fight right in

Matthew Jefferson Draft Profile

Oakleigh Chargers forward Matthew Jefferson is a key position prospect with substantial upside and terrific aerial range.

central.rookieme.com

 

[bird_man]

I'd be surprised if we took Jefferson. Especially with the Eagles just ahead of us now and likely to pick a WA kid

It means one of McKenzie, Philppou or Humphrey are there at our pick.

 

[bird_man]

1. Ashcroft - Bris
2. Cadman - GWS
3. Wardlow - North
4. Sheezel - North
5. Tsatas - Ess
6. Humphrey - GC
7. McKenzie - Haw
8. Clark - Geel
9. Ginbey - WC
10. Philppou - StK

 

[OxSaint]

No sold on Jefferson. Has some wow moments but looks a long way off. Actually looks similar to what we have in Sharman.

Really hope we go after a player with star power even if it a riskier option. We have a track record of safe options which get as solid citizens.

 

[Mighty_sainter]

I'd be surprised if we took Jefferson. Especially with the Eagles just ahead of us now and likely to pick a WA kid

It means one of McKenzie, Philppou or Humphrey are there at our pick.

I definitely wouldn’t be surprised, we’ve been on air saying we want to target key position players and Jefferson is right in our mix for our selection. I would prefer us taking a midfielder over Jefferson but I could live with it

 

[Ads734]

Has improved rapidly this year. Seems to have great upside. Cmac or Jefferson and I’d be pretty happy

Yea I’ve started to see a lot more upside in key forwards. As I’ve watched more young forwards come through , the success imo is on how many different weapons they will have.

Ie Tom Boyd - only had his marking but he wasn’t athletic and wasn’t amazingly skillfull

Schache - Simmilar to above

McCarthy - Athletic , no footy smarts

Day - athletic but no footy smarts

Weideman - Athletic, skillfull but not enough strength/dominant

To me Jefferson has supreme athleticism and can contort his body in marking contests and kicking off balance simmilar to winx

 

[Mighty_sainter]

Yea I’ve started to see a lot more upside in key forwards. As I’ve watched more young forwards come through , the success imo is on how many different weapons they will have.

Ie Tom Boyd - only had his marking but he wasn’t athletic and wasn’t amazingly skillfull

Schache - Simmilar to above

McCarthy - Athletic , no footy smarts

Day - athletic but no footy smarts

Weideman - Athletic, skillfull but not enough strength/dominant

To me Jefferson has supreme athleticism and can contort his body in marking contests and kicking off balance simmilar to winx

Thing that stands out apart from the obvious marking and athleticism is his competitiveness. It usually stacks up in afl footy especially in young forwards and if you don’t have that edge like a weid schac or Boyd it can be curtains.

 

[Minga]

I’m just happy that we’ll get a pick 10 to run around with Nas, Windy and Owens.

Plus our second rounders could be anything.

 

[Baker_for_PM]

I liked Max Gruzewski after his Metro vs Country game but after what he did yesterday at the combine i'm sold.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/m...e/news-story/3f8b7d9828f8fa268a24c654f1a6f6b1

 

[Mowman]

I liked Max Gruzewski after his Metro vs Country game but after what he did yesterday at the combine i'm sold.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/m...e/news-story/3f8b7d9828f8fa268a24c654f1a6f6b1

Wasn’t he coming last in the 2klm run

 

[ScrappyDo]

I’m just happy that we’ll get a pick 10 to run around with Nas, Windy and Owens.

Plus our second rounders could be anything.

It's a nice consolation as we slide down the ladder and still no good players want to come to us. The good news is it'll be pick 7 next year!!

 

[Baker_for_PM]

Wasn’t he coming last in the 2klm run

That's your takeaway from this? I'd be more concerned if he was a midfielder and also we don't know how fresh he was going into it. Look at the positive side of it mate.

 

[borderbarry]

WE need another goal kicker....

 

[ScrappyDo]

WE need another goal kicker....

We have Membrey but they prefer to use him up the ground and in defense.

We have Snags but they prefer he passes the ball to the more noted non goal kickers.

We have Battle but they prefer him in defense or on a wing.

We have Gresham but they prefer him at CBA's

If we had Plugger reincarnated they'd use him in the ruck.

 

[Diehard Saint]

We have Membrey but they prefer to use him up the ground and in defense.

We have Snags but they prefer he passes the ball to the more noted non goal kickers.

We have Battle but they prefer him in defense or on a wing.

We have Gresham but they prefer him at CBA's

If we had Plugger reincarnated they'd use him in the ruck.

You forgot Sharman.

 

[Mowman]

You forgot Sharman.

Back line at Sandy

 

[SaintsSeptember]

So if we did a trade and got 3 but lost our current pick and Clark, is it clear we'd get a definitely better player?

 

[botts]

So if we did a trade and got 3 but lost our current pick and Clark, is it clear we'd get a definitely better player?

No. Two for the price of one doesn’t really work

 

[Sarcoidevo]

A few have said they wouldn't mind Tsatas

It's a big NO for me thanks .... just watched some highlights and whilst he can find the ball he more often than not blazes away and doesn't hit targets ..... can't be having that with a top 10 pick

 

[gringo2011]

A few have said they wouldn't mind Tsatas

It's a big NO for me thanks .... just watched some highlights and whilst he can find the ball he more often than not blazes away and doesn't hit targets ..... can't be having that with a top 10 pick

I just rewatched Wardlaw's highlights. If North get him and another gun with pick 3 they are way ahead. He looks like a better kicking Petracca. I wish we were getting him.

 

[austinnn]

I just rewatched Wardlaw's highlights. If North get him and another gun with pick 3 they are way ahead. He looks like a better kicking Petracca. I wish we were getting him.

We just have to make sure they get Hunter Clark instead of that pick 3.

Hunter has always been a North player, he just never knew it. The slightly balding scalp, the ratty hairband and refusal to cut his hair, the malnourished look from the prominent front teeth and junkie's facial structure to the smoker's frame and lack of tank.

He's the archetypal pale Shinboner just as Mason Wood is the archetypal Saint with his bayside looks.