List Mgmt. 2022 Draft Thread

[conrad_437]

No, maybe champion data had him pretty high or something though.

Unless there's something very wrong medically or otherwise, players with ACL's generally don't slip that much. Especially ones that are already highly rated. Aiden Bonar went at pick 11 after doing 2 ACL's and he didn't do a whole heap. Some high picks off the top of my head that have done one in their draft year, Max King, Selwood, Lever, Kemp. All went first round. King went at pick 4 after missing nearly the whole season.

George has shown enough this season to suggest that he could be worth the risk at pick 11/12. Offers a heap of X-factor and is one of the more unique types in this year's draft.

Max King probably would've gone 1 or 2 without his ACL. Similar with Selwood. From memory, Bonar's athletic testing was off the charts, likely that clubs were enamoured with that.

 

[MrChristo]

He's from Devonport and played TFL with North Launceston. Any Tasmanian AFL team would definitely be based in Hobart, which is a 3-4 hour drive from Devonport, or a 50 minute flight from Tullamarine. Not convinced there'd be a go home factor there.

Being from Tas...

I can tell you that playing for your home State would make any travel time discussions irrelevant.

(1. Not that that would stop me drafting for needs specifically.
2. I always enjoy the "flight time" description like it doesn't involve getting to the airport, the 60+ mins of messing around, delays and the subsequent drive from the destination airport to the actual destination).
[From the time you start your car in Devonport you'd be sitting on a seat in a Hobart stadium in under 3 hours].

 

[goodcop badcop]

ESPN has us taking Hollands, Jones and Clarke at our 3 picks.

 

[hatescaptcha]

I’ll have Phillipou, Hayes & George please. If we are taking just the three picks.

Really want Weddle but seems like he won’t be there at 21.


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[LittleG]

ESPN has us taking Hollands, Jones and Clarke at our 3 picks.

Surprised Jones made it past WC, who has the pick directly before us. Clarke going that late is a surprise to me too.

Weddle going start of round 2, isn’t a surprise…. But disappointing.

 

[goodcop badcop]

Surprised Jones made it past WC, who has the pick directly before us. Clarke going that late is a surprise to me too.

Weddle going start of round 2, isn’t a surprise…. But disappointing.

I think pick 21 is too early for Clarke, but it would be a bit of a surprise to get him at our 3rd though.

I'd imagine most people would be disappointed with that draft especially with no talls. It wouldn't surprise me if we did end up with smalls with our first three picks and we go tall in the rookie draft.

 

[Dav1d]

You’re talking about this phantom right?

Needs an update with the pick swaps etc in there
Still believe Lewis Hayes will be the better of the key position defenders in this years draft

 

[weltschmerz]

You’re talking about this phantom right?
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Needs an update with the pick swaps etc in there
Still believe Lewis Hayes will be the better of the key position defenders in this years draft

new one https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_...draft-espn-three-round-breakdown-************

holy crap bigfooty censors his name I love it. but go to ESPN and it went up today

 

[Dav1d]

new one ESPN's three-round phantom draft for 2022

holy crap bigfooty censors his name I love it. but go to ESPN and it went up today

Cheers
Yeah I will find it

 

[Dav1d]

I think Charlie Clarke is a bargain if he makes it to 38, I would personally prefer George over Darcy Jones but Jones was also very eye catching and would often lift WA up in the championships

Also Oof to the three players he took just prior to that second pick, I wanted any of the three of them

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

holy crap bigfooty censors his name I love it. but go to ESPN and it went up today

Yes he went full dickhead meltdown and Chief was not happy

He's still making videos about why BF is bad on his YouTube channel...it's a bit of a laugh.

 

[Dav1d]

Yes he went full dickhead meltdown and Chief was not happy

He's still making videos about why BF is bad on his YouTube channel...it's a bit of a laugh.

I had to look now
I’m laughing at even the titles

 

[goodcop badcop]

Spoiler: Unique son of a gun shapes as draft's big late-season riser

ED ALLAN knew he didn't have time to waste. The Claremont draft prospect had missed the first half of this year with a back stress fracture and sat out three of Western Australia's under-18 championships games. When he returned to the field in July, he knew his time to impress would be limited.

Nearly three months on, Allan, the son of former Hawthorn star and Fremantle's inaugural captain Ben, shapes as one of the draft's biggest late-season risers, is viewed among his state's most exciting talents and is a contender for the top 15 on draft night. It wasn't always heading this way, when his back soreness in February developed into something more serious.

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"It quickly progressed and got a bit worse. I just had scans and didn't need surgery, but it was set to be a two-month injury and it became a three-month time on the sidelines in the end," Allan told AFL.com.au.

"I was pretty lucky as I was able to keep fit by going on the bikes and be in the gym the whole time, so I was able to do that. I made a focus on having to impact straight away as soon as I got back. I didn't really have time to build into my season, I just had to have a crack straight away."

Ed Allan poses for a photo during the 2022 NAB AFL Draft headshot session on October 7, 2022. Picture: AFL Photos
Allan succeeded with that. The 194cm midfielder played five games for Claremont's Colts side and averaged 25 disposals, excelling as an inside option as well as being able to play on the wing.

"I just wanted to show my running ability, my ability to impact the game. I wanted to hit the scoreboard and be consistent in all of the games I was able to play. That was my main goal, to be consistent and work hard," he said. "I was happy I was able to impact fairly quickly."

The 18-year-old's size and shape makes him a unique midfield option for clubs as a potential first-round pick, but Allan hasn't always been a taller onballer.

"The last two years I've probably grown about 20cm and probably put on about 20 kilos. I've grown a fair bit and that probably helped me go into an inside midfield role as well putting on more weight. I've got two older brothers as well so mum's spent a fair bit at the grocery shop," he said.

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"I was pretty small and skinny in my junior career so going onto the wing and playing against bigger bodies has definitely helped."

Clubs became more aware of his exciting athleticism at this month's NAB AFL Draft Combine. Allan blitzed the testing, claiming the best run in the 20-metre sprint at 2.81 seconds (after previous runs at 2.85 and 2.82 seconds). He was also fifth in the agility test (8.255 seconds) and inside the top 10 for the vertical jump (68cm). It topped off a strong end to the season that made Allan one of the significant late draft movers.

Not that he was a completely unfamiliar name. His father Ben Allan was a Hawthorn star who played in the club's 1991 flag and won the Hawks' best and fairest that season, before he crossed to Fremantle ahead of the Dockers' maiden season in 1995, when he was the club's first captain.

Ben Allan in action for Fremantle in 1995. Picture: AFL Photos
Ed counts himself more as a Fremantle fan, being based in Western Australia, and has got himself across the detail of his dad's football career.

"He doesn't speak about it much but he tells me he was a good kick and that's what he shows off a fair bit. I know he was a good player – a couple of All-Australians and a best and fairest in a premiership year so that's obviously pretty tough to do," he said.

"Being the inaugural captain at Freo, he was obviously pretty big in those first few years and he was also on the board and has had a lot of impact at the club and he's pretty proud of that. It's cool to know that Dad was in the first team and starting line-up.

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"He's probably my biggest support and I go to him for feedback more than anyone else. He's not too hard on me, he's there for feedback if I need it and he gives me stuff to work on and focus on in games."

But Allan won't get to either the Hawks or Dockers through the father-son rule. Ben played 98 games with Hawthorn before making the switch to Fremantle, where he played 47 games, meaning his son will enter the open draft as clubs weigh up how early to take him. "Dad tells me he wasn't thinking about kids when he was making that decision to leave the Hawks," Allan said.

 

[Dav1d]

Everyone out here basing their game on the Bont

 

[weltschmerz]

Yes he went full dickhead meltdown and Chief was not happy

He's still making videos about why BF is bad on his YouTube channel...it's a bit of a laugh.

"it definitely wasn't because I was using bigfooty to plug my NFT advice channel!"

 

[LittleG]

I think Charlie Clarke is a bargain if he makes it to 38, I would personally prefer George over Darcy Jones but Jones was also very eye catching and would often lift WA up in the championships

Also Oof to the three players he took just prior to that second pick, I wanted any of the three of them [emoji22]

I can’t see WC not taking Jones who is from WA and taking a ruck/KPP from SA. It doesn’t make sense to me, as WC can recruit him and since there is no go home factor, pay him less long term. It’s good business for them to take Jones.

 

[Testekill]

Not going to lie; a haul of Hollands, Jones and Clarke would be a little disappointing. I know it addresses a lot of problems with outside class and forward line class but it would be a perfect year to nab a developing tall defender so we can develop them without throwing them to the wolves.

 

[Rookie]

Busslinger/Phillipou/Hollands followed by Clark/Konstanty would be nice.

Szybkowski or Gruzewski would get me excited at 39 simply because I assume they're both Polish, but Ethan Phillips, Van Es, Gilbee or Binns would suit our list needs nicely.

 

[flipper83]

Not going to lie; a haul of Hollands, Jones and Clarke would be a little disappointing. I know it addresses a lot of problems with outside class and forward line class but it would be a perfect year to nab a developing tall defender so we can develop them without throwing them to the wolves.

If the draft falls that way then I'd consider VanEs instead of Clarke although I'd also prefer George to Jones so then we don't really get a pressure forward.
Hollands does seem like the most likely choice if someone like Busslinger or Phillipou doesn't get to us.

 

[TiAn_]

I wouldn’t put any weight in the specific picks, he’s just guessing like any of us might.

 

[Mojorisin]

Not going to lie; a haul of Hollands, Jones and Clarke would be a little disappointing. I know it addresses a lot of problems with outside class and forward line class but it would be a perfect year to nab a developing tall defender so we can develop them without throwing them to the wolves.

There isn't really any KPP in this year's draft I see that are worth taking apart from Philips late. This year is full or outside speed, with next year's talls looking better. Would be crazy to go for talls this year when the decent ones will go early Due to the fact there are only about 5 in the whole draft worth picking.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Spoiler: Unique son of a gun shapes as draft's big late-season riser

ED ALLAN knew he didn't have time to waste. The Claremont draft prospect had missed the first half of this year with a back stress fracture and sat out three of Western Australia's under-18 championships games. When he returned to the field in July, he knew his time to impress would be limited.

Nearly three months on, Allan, the son of former Hawthorn star and Fremantle's inaugural captain Ben, shapes as one of the draft's biggest late-season risers, is viewed among his state's most exciting talents and is a contender for the top 15 on draft night. It wasn't always heading this way, when his back soreness in February developed into something more serious.

DRAFT HUB Click here for the latest draft news

"It quickly progressed and got a bit worse. I just had scans and didn't need surgery, but it was set to be a two-month injury and it became a three-month time on the sidelines in the end," Allan told AFL.com.au.

"I was pretty lucky as I was able to keep fit by going on the bikes and be in the gym the whole time, so I was able to do that. I made a focus on having to impact straight away as soon as I got back. I didn't really have time to build into my season, I just had to have a crack straight away."

Ed Allan poses for a photo during the 2022 NAB AFL Draft headshot session on October 7, 2022. Picture: AFL Photos
Allan succeeded with that. The 194cm midfielder played five games for Claremont's Colts side and averaged 25 disposals, excelling as an inside option as well as being able to play on the wing.

"I just wanted to show my running ability, my ability to impact the game. I wanted to hit the scoreboard and be consistent in all of the games I was able to play. That was my main goal, to be consistent and work hard," he said. "I was happy I was able to impact fairly quickly."

The 18-year-old's size and shape makes him a unique midfield option for clubs as a potential first-round pick, but Allan hasn't always been a taller onballer.

"The last two years I've probably grown about 20cm and probably put on about 20 kilos. I've grown a fair bit and that probably helped me go into an inside midfield role as well putting on more weight. I've got two older brothers as well so mum's spent a fair bit at the grocery shop," he said.

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"I was pretty small and skinny in my junior career so going onto the wing and playing against bigger bodies has definitely helped."

Clubs became more aware of his exciting athleticism at this month's NAB AFL Draft Combine. Allan blitzed the testing, claiming the best run in the 20-metre sprint at 2.81 seconds (after previous runs at 2.85 and 2.82 seconds). He was also fifth in the agility test (8.255 seconds) and inside the top 10 for the vertical jump (68cm). It topped off a strong end to the season that made Allan one of the significant late draft movers.

Not that he was a completely unfamiliar name. His father Ben Allan was a Hawthorn star who played in the club's 1991 flag and won the Hawks' best and fairest that season, before he crossed to Fremantle ahead of the Dockers' maiden season in 1995, when he was the club's first captain.

Ben Allan in action for Fremantle in 1995. Picture: AFL Photos
Ed counts himself more as a Fremantle fan, being based in Western Australia, and has got himself across the detail of his dad's football career.

"He doesn't speak about it much but he tells me he was a good kick and that's what he shows off a fair bit. I know he was a good player – a couple of All-Australians and a best and fairest in a premiership year so that's obviously pretty tough to do," he said.

"Being the inaugural captain at Freo, he was obviously pretty big in those first few years and he was also on the board and has had a lot of impact at the club and he's pretty proud of that. It's cool to know that Dad was in the first team and starting line-up.

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"He's probably my biggest support and I go to him for feedback more than anyone else. He's not too hard on me, he's there for feedback if I need it and he gives me stuff to work on and focus on in games."

But Allan won't get to either the Hawks or Dockers through the father-son rule. Ben played 98 games with Hawthorn before making the switch to Fremantle, where he played 47 games, meaning his son will enter the open draft as clubs weigh up how early to take him. "Dad tells me he wasn't thinking about kids when he was making that decision to leave the Hawks," Allan said.

Getting Andrew Dunkley vibes from the old man...

Ben Allan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Nat Fyfe]

There isn't really any KPP in this year's draft I see that are worth taking apart from Philips late. This year is full or outside speed, with next year's talls looking better. Would be crazy to go for talls this year when the decent ones will go early Due to the fact there are only about 5 in the whole draft worth picking.

Have to agree here. There are some I'd take if available with some of the later picks, but I wouldn't go near a tall with Pick 11 (none are worth it IMO, not even Busslinger), and I'd be hesitant to go as early as Pick 21 unless Busslinger slid somehow. The timing sucks, but the talls in the draft are pretty crap. It's ideal timing to address the wing/outside mid and small forward positions though.

The three selected in this phantom draft would be a great result for us tbh. Sucks not getting any more KPDs in early, but can always grab a slider late. At each of those picks, there really weren't many better options for talls.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

I'd imagine most people would be disappointed with that draft especially with no talls.

To be fair we'd have a crap list if we drafted our board's consensus picks each year

 

[glenashley]

Our picks fall kinda awkwardly either too late or too early for who I'd like.

I can see us trading out pick 11 on the night, unless there's a slider.