List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[Mutineer]

Why would we trade McAsey for a pick in the 30s? Let the kid develop. Even if you delist him in 2 years, what do you lose, pick 38? Meh.

Maybe because that pick will go towards bringing in Max Michalanney without putting a dent in next year's raft collateral.

 

[dplggr47]

Why would we trade McAsey for a pick in the 30s? Let the kid develop. Even if you delist him in 2 years, what do you lose, pick 38? Meh.

Maybe it's an attitude problem or homesickness and that he will never reach any potential if he remains. I mean, at the moment, isn't he behind both Frampton and Borlase?

 

[George CantStandYa]

Maybe because that pick will go towards bringing in Max Michalanney without putting a dent in next year's raft collateral.

Imagine turning pick 6 into 38, you'd have to be critical of that

 

[Mutineer]

Imagine turning pick 6 into 38, you'd have to be critical of that

Get some new material...

 

[Mutineer]

Imagine turning pick 6 into 38, you'd have to be critical of that

Imagine turning a rookie pick pick 7 into Darcy Fogarty

 

[Peter Doherty]

What's the latest on Sholl? Wasn't it reported he's definitely not going to Carlton? Any other club interested?

 

[George CantStandYa]

Imagine turning a rookie pick pick 7 into Darcy Fogarty

Great work, never said all of Hamish’s picks were no good, it’s blowing first rounders where my criticism is aimed at. Now one of them you’ve just highlighted and yet you can’t bring yourself to criticise Hamish……ever. So in a nutshell only one of us balanced

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

No I'm saying on a per contest basis he has better hands

If that's true that means must be getting to less contests. He averages less marks and the same number of contested marks.

 

[Thetrader15]

Maybe it's an attitude problem or homesickness and that he will never reach any potential if he remains. I mean, at the moment, isn't he behind both Frampton and Borlase?

Fog was behind Frampton at the start of the year yoo.

 

[Thetrader15]

Maybe because that pick will go towards bringing in Max Michalanney without putting a dent in next year's raft collateral.

I would prefer to give Fish a go for a bit longer and drop down 1 or 2 pcks in the 3rd round next year.

Rowe's pick would be enough wouldn't it?

 

[Danger in Texas]

What's the latest on Sholl? Wasn't it reported he's definitely not going to Carlton? Any other club interested?

Who actually said this? Must have missed it myself, all the reports I’ve seen hav said he’s going to be off

 

[Jcpdragonx]

Should we be revisiting Tarryn Thomas on a buy low scenario? We did bid on him quite high up at the National Draft if I recall correct? Matt Crouch for TT and some pick swapsies?

Thomas is worth far more than Crouch, despite the fact Thomas couldn't be arsed with 2022. No way they remotely entertain this idea.

 

[Mego Red]

Newchurch won't be moved on...

I've not seen anyone seriously suggest that Newchurch won't be here next year.

We've invested a lot of time in him and he's genuinely improved - you would never cut a project player like him just as he's coming good.

 

[Brett Cummings]

Carlton tipped to land Adelaide defender Fischer McAsey: AFL trade news

"They're all over Fischer McAsey. I believed he'll be at the Blues next year."

www.zerohanger.com

Contracted player. That will be a first rounder thanks.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

So we could be trading...
Rowe
Crouch
Sholl
(1 of) Himmelberg or Frampton
McAsey

My preferred 3 would be Crouch, Frampton & Rowe.

 

[Peter Doherty]

It's a shame Liam Jones

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Liam Jones

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34

Ht

199cm

Wt

98kg

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Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

134.5

2star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.1

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

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2.0

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

isn't a bit younger, he likely gets Carlton a 3rd round pick (band 5) as compensation. A band 4 compo of end of second round would have been nice.

I'd do 29 and 36 for Sholl and McAsey if it helped us get things moving with other deals.

 

[baldandbroke]

Yeah only reason would be if we need the points for bid matching or if he is keen to leave.

Yep - I'm guessing a little of Option A and a little of Option B.

 

[Thetrader15]

It's a shame Liam Jones isn't a bit younger, he likely gets Carlton a 3rd round pick (band 5) as compensation. A band 4 compo of end of second round would have been nice.

I'd do 29 and 36 for Sholl and McAsey if it helped us get things moving with other deals.

Wow, some people here have really given up on McAsey early. What happened to young KPPs taking longer to develop?

Haven't we learnt from Marshall and Fogarty this year?

 

[Peter Doherty]

Wow, some people here have really given up on McAsey early. What happened to young KPPs taking longer to develop?

Haven't we learnt from Marshall and Fogarty this year?

If moving McAsey out for a 2nd rounder helps us land Rankine and potentially others, I can live with that.

 

[Smart Fella]

Wow, some people here have really given up on McAsey early. What happened to young KPPs taking longer to develop?

Haven't we learnt from Marshall and Fogarty this year?

I guess people are struggling to identify traits in him that could be useful in AFL. I think he is a KPD (good enough KPF at SANFL level) but the club has pushed him forward to make room for Frampton and Borlase which is concerning.

Strong chance if the club can get a half decent draft pick, they'll cut their losses. I want him to succeed as much as the next person but a genuine question to you, what makes you think he could make it?

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[Crow till I die]

If moving McAsey out for a 2nd rounder helps us land Rankine and potentially others, I can live with that.

This gig is a business. I am not fussed about player movement. Apart from the very top tier we have (fogarty, thilthorpe, rachele, dawson and soon to be soligo), i can live with losing and gaining players.

Wheel and deal to get the best deal from our end and the worst for the opposition..but idmf mcasey goes and we bring in others, get it done

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

If moving McAsey out for a 2nd rounder helps us land Rankine and potentially others, I can live with that.

Exactly, we need to think about the next trade period in net terms.

If we were able to trade in Rankine & JHF.... no issue trading out players to make this happen.

We have a very young list & I mentioned mid season it's likely we will need to trade out some of our young talent.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Wow, some people here have really given up on McAsey early. What happened to young KPPs taking longer to develop?

Haven't we learnt from Marshall and Fogarty this year?

You’ve named 2 players who made it, there are plenty that haven’t.

The clubs given up on him as a KPD and he hasn’t played AFL for 2 years, that should give you a hint.

 

[LeftyLuke]

If moving McAsey out for a 2nd rounder helps us land Rankine and potentially others, I can live with that.

I can't see us getting a 2nd for McAsey. If we did that would be a heist.

 

[Thetrader15]

If moving McAsey out for a 2nd rounder helps us land Rankine and potentially others, I can live with that.

I don't see how it does.