List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[Red mist]

What is Sloane on in 2023?

Fighting for his AFL life. If he has bottle then we will embrace it.

 

[Big Dub]

Ok so an idea - and no doubt I will be shouted down, but thought I would see what people think because it is Friday and I am bored...but would there be any point in doing the following:

Trade to GWS our First Round Pick next year (likely to be no lower than say pick 5) for their newly acquired picks 15 and 18
Trade picks 15 and 18 to the Suns for Rankine, so equivalent to like pick 4-5 right (which is what we are giving up anyway)?
Rankine traded to us
We keep pick 5 this year and can get Phillipou.

Guess it all just depends on whether there are better prospects in next years draft right? Phillipou to me looks like exactly the type of player we need (big bodied mid), but without the go-home factor...

Please proceed to tear apart...

The risk is that you are choosing Hately over Petracca.

There is no race to making the 8. Better to take an extra year or 2 to build a team to win a flag.

 

[Red mist]

The risk is that you are choosing Hately over Petracca.

There is no race to making the 8. Better to take an extra year or 2 to build a team to win a flag.

What sort of music do you listen to. Gives me a gauge.

 

[TheBigCrow]

The risk is that you are choosing Hately over Petracca.

There is no race to making the 8. Better to take an extra year or 2 to build a team to win a flag.

Bang on.
Very risky pick.
I remember Carlton picking Tom Bell thinking they had the next Koutoufides.

 

[Red mist]

Bang on.
Very risky pick.
I remember Carlton picking Tom Bell thinking they had the next Koutoufides.

On the same line but how’d that work out x

 

[FR0GGY]

Plenty of other players not past their prime that would shift for 1 mill a year.

 

[Red mist]

Plenty of other players not past their prime that would shift for 1 mill a year.

You arereasonbly terms.

 

[Red mist]

Hard standard. Pretty si don’t

 

[ams4crows]

The risk is that you are choosing Hately over Petracca.

There is no race to making the 8. Better to take an extra year or 2 to build a team to win a flag.

Alternatively a Fyfe type could be sitting at 23 and just needs the right environment to develop. Particularly in an even draft like this one with no real standouts.

For all we know Koby Ryan or a Lachlan Cowan might translate to AFL better than Phillipou we'll just have to wait and see

 

[Draft Bored]

I love hypotheticals. Feel free to lay giant turds on this three-way trade. Looking forward to MEGA tears in the morning over a hypothetical trade for JHF...

GWS
In: 1, 23 [3815]
Out: 3, 12, 18 [4487]

AFC
In: 18, JHF [985]
Out: 5, F1, 23 [4337 assuming pick 7 value for our future first]

NM
In: 3, 5, 12, F1 [7024]
Out: 1, JHF [3000]

Reasoning

- This values JHF at 4024 draft points if you value our future pick at 7. This means they're getting the equivalent of Pick 3 + 5 on points for JHF.

- NM go to the draft with:
2022: 3, 5, 12 (remember their current second pick is 59 so a massive improvement in terms of rebuilding)
2023: 1, 7

- GWS apparently want pick 1 and they have 3, 12, 15, 18, 19!!! They would still have 1, 15, 19, 23 after this trade.

- If NM wanted a sweetener they can have McAsey and claim 5 first round picks coming in.

- Port can't compete with this trade. Nothing they could offer would be more appealing unless they gave up a player like Butters.

- GC get 18 for Rankine. A first round pick for an uncontracted player. Unders but what are they going to do about it.


Looking forward to melts in the morning

 

[CROW in BALI]

Gambling a million a year over 5 years that a sea change is all it will take to get Whitfield back to his best form is a bold move

Wont happen because it is such an un-Adelaide thing to do.
Whitfield being one of my favourite runners and users of the ball would be ideal for us imo , we would be playing poker with his soft tissue history , strings tighter than Hendrix and this year his ankle problems, but reckon Burgess is a card counter.

 

[1970crow]

Our list management are the worse in the entire league. Reid is a useless herbivore eating disgrace to humanity.

Wish he would just quit and * the hell off.

He is only the employee of a committee. Our list is not his to run unilaterally. Last I recall seeing, our LM committee included Fagan, Smallacombe (CFO), Burton, Pyke, Reid and Roo. That’s the type of crap the ‘manager’ has to deal with. Kelly and Nix are both miles out of their depth and we know that Roo is an absolute moron.

 

[Gtowncrow]

I love hypotheticals. Feel free to lay giant turds on this three-way trade. Looking forward to MEGA tears in the morning over a hypothetical trade for JHF...

GWS
In: 1, 23 [3815]
Out: 3, 12, 18 [4487]

AFC
In: 18, JHF [985]
Out: 5, F1, 23 [4337 assuming pick 7 value for our future first]

NM
In: 3, 5, 12, F1 [7024]
Out: 1, JHF [3000]

Reasoning

- This values JHF at 4024 draft points if you value our future pick at 7. This means they're getting the equivalent of Pick 3 + 5 on points for JHF.

- NM go to the draft with:
2022: 3, 5, 12 (remember their current second pick is 59 so a massive improvement in terms of rebuilding)
2023: 1, 7

- GWS apparently want pick 1 and they have 3, 12, 15, 18, 19!!! They would still have 1, 15, 19, 23 after this trade.

- If NM wanted a sweetener they can have McAsey and claim 5 first round picks coming in.

- Port can't compete with this trade. Nothing they could offer would be more appealing unless they gave up a player like Butters.

- GC get 18 for Rankine. A first round pick for an uncontracted player. Unders but what are they going to do about it.


Looking forward to melts in the morning

This is good. Well thought out and beneficial to all three parties.
JHF nominating Port could be renegotiated with him perhaps? Or perhaps not?

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Bruised liver and in hospital for 9 Days. Ain’t soft as some would say but yeah that’s a heavy tag. Out.

It’d be a salary dump so GWS would be contributing a fair chunk of either of their wages


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[pjcrows]

FWIW Silvers said we are targeting free agents at the end of 2023.

For those with good computering skills, who are the free agents at end of 2023?

 

[Big Dub]

What sort of music do you listen to. Gives me a gauge.

ACDC, five finger death punch, Trivium. You know, the classics.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

FWIW Silvers said we are targeting free agents at the end of 2023.

For those with good computering skills, who are the free agents at end of 2023?

List of out of contract and free agents going into 2023. This list is not always 100% accurate.

AFL Out of Contract Players in 2023

List of AFL players coming out of contract at the end of 2023.

www.footywire.com

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[Rory Walkerfield]

FWIW Silvers said we are targeting free agents at the end of 2023.

For those with good computering skills, who are the free agents at end of 2023?

AFL Out of Contract Players in 2023

List of AFL players coming out of contract at the end of 2023.

www.footywire.com

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

FWIW Silvers said we are targeting free agents at the end of 2023.

For those with good computering skills, who are the free agents at end of 2023?

Jacob Hopper and Darcy Parish the only two mids I can see us chasing.

 

[Crow_68]

List of out of contract and free agents going into 2023. This list is not always 100% accurate.

AFL Out of Contract Players in 2023

List of AFL players coming out of contract at the end of 2023.

www.footywire.com

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Out of all of the RFAs/UFAs, Harrison Himmelberg is the one I would be targeting

 

[MRB37]

its very clear no one wants sholl or mcasey, crouch lets see next week.

If McAsey is on a rumoured $450K-$500K I'm not surprised he doesn't have a ton of suitors. Wait until that contract runs out before you take a flier on him.

 

[1970crow]

I would prefer us to pay crouch out (if we can't trade him) and free up the list spot otherwise they will play him in the midfield all year in the SANFL preventing us from playing a younger mid in there to develop.

I doubt we can pay him out. Minimum to maximum spend is 10% and we’ve already added Brown to this year’s spend. The talk of Crouch being on both a short and cheap deal was pure guesswork based on nothingness. Just as likely he signed for the same coin. He was a first choice mid going into this year.

 

[sutts]

Out of all of the RFAs/UFAs, Harrison Himmelberg is the one I would be targeting

Alex Neale-Bullen and Bailey Williams more likely than HH, but HH could be a good play.

Both from SA, both playing in teams where salary cap is going to be tight.

A few players out of contract but not free agents next year. Will be interesting to see.

 

[GreyCrow]

Jacob Hopper and Darcy Parish the only two mids I can see us chasing.

I wonder if we would be looking for KPD rather than more midfielders?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I wonder if we would be looking for KPD rather than more midfielders?

There's a potential great KPD in this Draft ....could be gettable at our 2nd pick too .....Barnett, 200cm +

Played as a RUCK in the Championships ....but has the mobility to be a KPD ....going to be a solid boy too