List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[hey shorty]

I'd prefer Hopper out of the two, but wouldn't care if we stayed away from either

Our first would be too much, and our second will be too little (plus I reckon GWS would be looking for quality over quantity, so two 2nds would be a no go)

We need quality in the middle, why do people baulk at the price ??

 

[Danger in Texas]

We need quality in the middle, why do people baulk at the price ??

Gonna assume our pick is top 6 again. For a 26-year-old mid that isn't exactly a classy type, I think there's better uses of that selection

Also, isn't he contracted? So his price would be even more inflated?

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

I didn’t think Hopper was ooc, he would have been a good FA option next year

 

[Sanders]

What's their worth, around pick 10-15??? So we can offer them less since as we have the threat of the PSD.

We’re going to finish below GWS are we. You certain about that?

 

[LeftyLuke]

Not sure if this has been posted somewhere

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O'brien for Walsh is fair.

 

[LoBu]

There’s no context missing.

The assumption we want him gone is incorrect, but if a club comes asking we should listen as everyone has a price.

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[Sanders]

The assumption we want him gone is incorrect, but if a club comes asking we should listen as everyone has a price.

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That’s got no relevance to what was being disputed though. Nor were you taken out of context.

You claimed he would be worth pick 15, when in truth he’s a bargain basement pick up right now

 

[Mutineer]

From the addy...​

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INSIDE WORD​

Adelaide is zeroing in on Glenelg midfielder Brett Turner in the AFL mid-season rookie draft.

Currently sidelined with a foot injury, Turner is understood to have met with the Crows but his selection could be determined by whether they take one or two picks in the June 1 draft.

One spot has become available following the season-ending knee injury to captain Rory Sloane

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Rory Sloane

Age

34

Ht

183cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

11.9

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

6.6

5star

CL

5.7

5star

D

15.3

4star

K

7.3

3star

HB

8.0

4star

M

1.3

1star

T

3.3

4star

CL

4.2

5star

D

22.2

5star

K

8.6

4star

HB

13.6

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

6.0

5star

CL

4.6

5star

while the club is yet to make a call on whether wingman Paul Seedsman

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Paul Seedsman

Age

32

Ht

190cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

10.7

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.5

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.2

3star

HB

7.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

, who is battling concussion symptoms, will play again this year.

Turner caught the eye of Adelaide’s recruiting department with a standout 38-disposal, four-goal, six-clearance display against their SANFL side in round three.

 

[Danger in Texas]

So we’ll select Turner if we take two picks into the draft? I’m cool with that

 

[hey shorty]

So we’ll select Turner if we take two picks into the draft? I’m cool with that

Sounds like it.

I'd imagine we'll go for an undrafted kid with the first one ala Parnell last year

 

[1990crow]

Sounds like it.

I'd imagine we'll go for an undrafted kid with the first one ala Parnell last year

This is why we need an AFL reserves side. Hurts the sanfl sides chances of winning a flag by taking them from their side, and into our side to play against them.

 

[hey shorty]

This is why we need an AFL reserves side. Hurts the sanfl sides chances of winning a flag by taking them from their side, and into our side to play against them.

For sure but I reckon we're a fair way from that happening.

 

[Mutineer]

hey shorty
Ballenden must be on a "decent deal" outside of WWT's salary by the sounds?

Full list of MSD nominations: Ex-Sun, Blue's brother among the prospects

More than 200 players have nominated for next week's NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft

www.afl.com.au

SEVEN potential mid-season draftees have nominated 18-month contracts and one has put extra terms on his head as the full list of nominations has been distributed to clubs ahead of next week's draft.

More than 200 players have nominated for next Wednesday's NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft, with clubs informed that a small group of players have lodged terms that will see them automatically signed until the end of 2023 if they are selected. Ex-Brisbane Lion tall Connor Ballenden is the only player to have nominated as a 'Category 1' prospect, meaning he has nominated extra financial terms under the AFL's rules.

As AFL.com.au revealed in April, the AFL tweaked its rules for this year's mid-season draft so that only previously AFL-listed players could nominate financial terms after last year VFL player Jai Newcombe did that and landed at Hawthorn.

They are Jai Culley, Kallan Dawson, Hugo Hall-Kahan, Max Ramsden, Jacob Bauer, James Blanck and former Gold Coast midfielder Jacob Dawson

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Jacob Dawson

Age

24

Ht

182cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

8.1

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

4star

.

Dawson has been playing at Southport in the VFL, having played nine games for the Suns between 2018-19 before being delisted at the end of 2020.

 

[hey shorty]

hey shorty
Ballenden must be on a "decent deal" outside of WWT's salary by the sounds?

Full list of MSD nominations: Ex-Sun, Blue's brother among the prospects

More than 200 players have nominated for next week's NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft

www.afl.com.au

SEVEN potential mid-season draftees have nominated 18-month contracts and one has put extra terms on his head as the full list of nominations has been distributed to clubs ahead of next week's draft.

More than 200 players have nominated for next Wednesday's NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft, with clubs informed that a small group of players have lodged terms that will see them automatically signed until the end of 2023 if they are selected. Ex-Brisbane Lion tall Connor Ballenden is the only player to have nominated as a 'Category 1' prospect, meaning he has nominated extra financial terms under the AFL's rules.

As AFL.com.au revealed in April, the AFL tweaked its rules for this year's mid-season draft so that only previously AFL-listed players could nominate financial terms after last year VFL player Jai Newcombe did that and landed at Hawthorn.

They are Jai Culley, Kallan Dawson, Hugo Hall-Kahan, Max Ramsden, Jacob Bauer, James Blanck and former Gold Coast midfielder Jacob Dawson.

Dawson has been playing at Southport in the VFL, having played nine games for the Suns between 2018-19 before being delisted at the end of 2020.

He's at the Eagles, they don't have a salary cap down there.

Makes sense mind you, he's moved his life down here to play footy so to move again you'd need certain terms.

 

[Mutineer]

AFL mid-season draft state of play: The clubs set to pick - and the players they’ve been linked to

The clubs set to pick - and the stars they’re eyeing to fill a chasm: AFL Draft Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

The Crows, who are likely to select at Pick 4, have been linked to Carmichael, but are also strongly considering taking 25-year-old Glenelg on-baller Brett Turner, who booted 4.1 from 38 disposals and six clearances against Adelaide’s SANFL team in mid-April.

Carmichael could be off the board by the time the Crows pick anyway, with West Coast and Essendon also linked to the on-baller. If he slides past those clubs, it’s hard to see him escaping the grasp of Richmond, which at this stage holds Pick 10.

If the Eagles don’t opt for Carmichael early, big-bodied midfielder Jai Culley would be in their sights too.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

From the addy...​

​

INSIDE WORD​

Adelaide is zeroing in on Glenelg midfielder Brett Turner in the AFL mid-season rookie draft.

Currently sidelined with a foot injury, Turner is understood to have met with the Crows but his selection could be determined by whether they take one or two picks in the June 1 draft.

One spot has become available following the season-ending knee injury to captain Rory Sloane while the club is yet to make a call on whether wingman Paul Seedsman, who is battling concussion symptoms, will play again this year.

Turner caught the eye of Adelaide’s recruiting department with a standout 38-disposal, four-goal, six-clearance display against their SANFL side in round three.

Sounds like the Crows way. Sign an injured player based on a 1 game performance.

 

[LC40]

Seen both Carmicheal and Turner.
I liked Turner when he first came to West, read the ball well and made good decisions. Played defence at first and later moved to the midfield and was a an accumulator. He is a clever footballer, pretty one sided and not the quickest of players but has something.
Quit the club for a while and went back to his local team and when he came back he found a new level of confidence and became one of our best but he never seemed to have that buy in. Admittedly West weren't good so I guess it wears you down.
I wasn't surprised he wanted to leave and go to Glenelg so others can comment now on his play.

Carmicheal I like a lot. He has a football brain. Really smart, goes to the right spots, has clean hands and a fantastic kick. His passes are low and quick and he finds the ball in tight.
Has some pace and is a good size for a midfielder.
Some posters like Hately but Carmicheal is better.
He's quicker, bigger, and delivers the ball better by foot. He too is very one sided and it can get him in trouble but I feel for a mid season pick up why wouldn't you take a chance on him.

 

[Danger in Texas]

You’d think he’s a monty to go to WCE. In that case, I’m not sure Carmichael gets to us. Even though I reckon NM goes with either D’Ambrosio or Derksen, Essendon would surely be very keen on him

 

[Mutineer]

You’d think he’s a monty to go to WCE. In that case, I’m not sure Carmichael gets to us. Even though I reckon NM goes with either D’Ambrosio or Derksen, Essendon would surely be very keen on him

As long as we're not lookong at Derksen I'll be happy.

 

[Danger in Texas]

As long as we're not lookong at Derksen I'll be happy.

Haven’t seen much of him, any reason?

 

[Mutineer]

Haven’t seen much of him, any reason?

Mids, mid/forwards surely?

Think he's gone before our pick anyhow.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Mids, mid/forwards surely?

Think he's gone before our pick anyhow.

Yeah I'm guessing he goes to NM from what I've read about him

Surprised the talk around O'Neill has been very quiet, still think he'd be a nice suitable pickup for us

 

[LoBu]

That’s got no relevance to what was being disputed though. Nor were you taken out of context.

You claimed he would be worth pick 15, when in truth he’s a bargain basement pick up right now

No I didn't, I said our position should be pick 25 and Sholl for pick 15.

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[Big Dub]

Re the mid season draft, our list is not so advanced that picking best available won't improve us, no matter what position they play. But we look to have some fairly obvious holes in our list:
1. Great mid - we could have a decent support cast and our outside mids look fine, but we don't have an out and out gun to lead the engine room. There doesn't look to be one in the msd and we may even have to trade up from this year's first round (or trade for JHF).
2. Good key forward - Thilthorpe looks good, Himmelberg does not. Macasy looks better as a forward than defender, but not yet convinced. There look to be a couple of maybes in the msd, or possibly round 2 pick.
3. Good medium forward - McAdam looks OK and one of Gollant or Fog might make it, but not convinced yet. Should be available in msd or draft.
4. Good key defender - Butts looks very good and one of Frampton, Murray or Michalanney probably makes it, but not guaranteed. Certainly looks more promising than our key forward stocks.

So, while more mids in the msd might be tempting, how much will it improve our current future of Dawson, Cook, Hinge, Sholl, Milera, Crouch, Keays, Schoenberg, Berry, Pedlar, Soligo, Rachele, McHenry, Hately, Taylor, Nankervis?

Are we better off filling an obvious hole?

 

[Bazz_27]