List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[WaynesWorld19]

In my mind, as small as it is, I believe we are patch quilting the side, to look at players / roles ....with a view of year end delistings & getting games into a wide array of players .....building a base around contested ball, which as I stated is hard, when you're undersized

Subsequent to my earlier post around player / role experimentation (looking at diff roles) .....the news that Soligo to have more mid time & Keays in a diff role .....and news on ROB below, suggests we're more about experimentation GreyCrow in year 3 ....than we are about Wins / losses

Adelaide Update: Reilly O’Brien - AFLRATINGS

Reilly O'Brien could see reduced time at the ruck position to finish the season.

aflratings.com.au

 

[rabidcrow]

I noticed it was subdued. Whether that was because they already knew or something else I couldn't read.

Definitely subdued. Shows the pressure on the group I think. No one likes losing week in week out and I am sure the boys see the media calls of our rebuild has stalled, kids no good etc


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[Eagleboy2011]

CROW FOR LIFE
Tex rejects bigger interstate deals, shows loyalty to Adelaide

TAYLOR Walker felt he owed it to Adelaide to turn his back on rival offers and re-sign because the Crows stood by him in the wake of his racial vilification saga. Former captain Walker, who extended his contract by one year on Tuesday, said he considered moving interstate to play elsewhere but wanted to stay loyal and finish his career at West Lakes. Tuesday was Walker’s first press conference since the one he fronted last August to apologise for racially vilifying North Adelaide’s Robbie Young at a SANFL game a month earlier. The 32-year-old received a six-game ban for his slur. Walker said if someone had told him then that he would be re-signing now, he probably would not have believed them. “It’s pretty well-documented what occurred last year, and the club have been outstanding in integrating me back into the footy club,” Walker said on Tuesday. “That’s certainly a little factor of what helped me make my decision as well.” “I said nearly 12 months ago that my ability to integrate back into the group and build my relationships with the ones that I’ve broken were my key,” Taylor said. “Have I got work to do? Yeah, always. Until the day I drop off this planet, I’m still going to be doing work in that area. In the end, it was a pretty easy to decision to stay here. “I love South Australia, I love Adelaide, (wife) Ellie’s from here, my boys (Hugo and Louis) were born here. There’s a lot of alignment to this great state, and I want to get our footy club back to playing finals.” Walker, the Crows’ all-time leading goalkicker, has been rewarded for his strong form. He has booted 31 majors from 12 games this year, after missing the first three matches to serve the rest of his ban. Asked if he would have understood if Adelaide wanted to part ways, given what happened, he said: “Ifs, buts and candy nuts - that didn’t happen, so there’s no point worrying about what could have and should have.” Walker said his relationships with the club’s Indigenous players were going in the right direction. “I feel very comfortable with where it’s at,” he said. “I’ll just continue to chip away and earn that trust and respect back as much as I can.” Walker took time out from the club when his suspension began, before returning for preseason. In 2020, Walker looked near the end of his career as he kicked just 15 goals from 14 matches while battling a knee problem. Since then he has been one of the Crows’ best players. The Broken Hill product, ranked 12th on the Crows’ alltime games list with 232, asked the club for a two-year deal. But he understood Adelaide, which was 15th on the ladder in the third year of a rebuild, was in position to only offer one year. “I don’t know how long I want to play for,” he said. “I feel like I’m playing my best footy I have in a while, my mind is healthy, my body is healthy. “I’ve got a lot to offer, on and off the field, to get our footy club back where it belongs.

 

[Carmo]

Subsequent to my earlier post around player / role experimentation (looking at diff roles) .....the news that Soligo to have more mid time & Keays in a diff role .....and news on ROB below, suggests we're more about experimentation GreyCrow in year 3 ....than we are about Wins / losses

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Adelaide Update: Reilly O’Brien - AFLRATINGS

Reilly O'Brien could see reduced time at the ruck position to finish the season.

aflratings.com.au

Surely Strachan asks to be traded this offseason. Where would he see himself fitting in this system? Also means we need to pick up 1 more, possibly 2 more ruckmen if he does go.

 

[Mutineer]

Subsequent to my earlier post around player / role experimentation (looking at diff roles) .....the news that Soligo to have more mid time & Keays in a diff role .....and news on ROB below, suggests we're more about experimentation GreyCrow in year 3 ....than we are about Wins / losses

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Adelaide Update: Reilly O’Brien - AFLRATINGS

Reilly O'Brien could see reduced time at the ruck position to finish the season.

aflratings.com.au

I'd say it's to get Thilthorpe more motivated and up around the ball than anything to do with ROB's output.

 

[Hugh Jass]

I reckon they are over listening to Nicks….

That's the impression I got too

 

[craig crowing]

Dunkleys partner today re -
signed with Thunderbirds Netball which surprised me so we along with Port maybe have chance of trading for .
Believe out of contract so maybe well worth getting some more class into club.

 

[Mutineer]

I have .....and you're clearly joking re Worrell ....and it's certainly no disgrace

You sure you've been watching Worrell because that's certainly not my take and I've watched every SANFL game he's ever played.

Pretty impressive by position in my book

2022 stats

 

[spenze]

Can we not play O'Brien at FF...the days of a lumbering Ruck resting at FF dies in the 80s FFS. If he doesn't mark the ball ( and lately he just doesn't) then we are a player down because even a player with two torn hamstrings should be able to avoid being caught by him. Of course if he does mark it, then its a crap shoot.

Just when you think our game plan can't get any worse, they put O'Brien at full forward. If he is so shit at ruck...put him in the twos, not at Full forward

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Can we not play O'Brien at FF...the days of a lumbering Ruck resting at FF dies in the 80s FFS. If he doesn't mark the ball ( and lately he just doesn't) then we are a player down because even a player with two torn hamstrings should be able to avoid being caught by him. Of course if he does mark it, then its a crap shoot.

Just when you think our game plan can't get any worse, they put O'Brien at full forward. If he is so s**t at ruck...put him in the twos, not at Full forward

I was at the game and I thought wtf is going on? Who would’ve thought to put him there with the way he kicks ffs

 

[pjcrows]

Blight would throw a young player in there without worrying if it was the right call.

What's important to understand is that plenty were stuff ups - Tom Gilligan, Brent Williams, Lance Picioane, Linden Stevens, Andrew Eccles - which you need to have so that you get the Simon Goodwin, Kane Johnson and Tyson Edwards right ones.

For some reason we wait for guarantees?

If we pick Newchurch in a few games for instance and he SUCKS, looks scared, goes into his shell or whatever then that's a good thing because we can delist him and move on. If he shows a few glimpses but battles overall that's also good because we can see into the future that he's got something and gives him a clear picture of what he needs to work on.

POTY

 

[Mr_Moogle]

If we pick Newchurch in a few games for instance and he SUCKS, looks scared, goes into his shell or whatever then that's a good thing because we can delist him and move on. If he shows a few glimpses but battles overall that's also good because we can see into the future that he's got something and gives him a clear picture of what he needs to work on.

Case in point Ben Davis. The fact this guy is still on our list is a travesty.

 

[Tex Milera]

Surely nobody swaps jumpers with fu##### Hawthorn!!?

I think the Umps did……


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[CrowFrenzy]

Because for whatever reason, our current midfield mix is TERRIBLE .....too many of the same type, slow and handball happy .....Crouch throws the balance right out

Hately is NOT a Wingman

Soligo will be a great mid .....Pedlar also ....also can see Cook / Milera as a Mid

Milera has been proven to not be an AFL FWD ....despite where he played at Centrals ....it limits his skillsets

I agree with you on Soglio but what have you seen in Pedlar that makes you think he will be a great mid?

I hope you are right.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I agree with you on Soglio but what have you seen in Pedlar that makes you think he will be a great mid?

I hope you are right.

He's taller than he looks ....but nothing I've seen changes my opinion, he's Garry McIntosh reincarnated ....but with a bit more class

Agree with Rookieme Central's assessment

STRENGTHS:

• Contested Game
• Power
• Tackling
• Scoreboard Impact
• Leadership
• Work-rate

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Finesse
• Clean hands

A midfield bull is a common term used for the likes of Joel Selwood and Ollie Wines, and Pedlar fits that term more than any other draft prospect this year. Pedlar will always put his head over the ball and will never deviate no matter what comes at him.

Pedlar wasn’t able to test at the start of the year or the end of the year which was unfortunate but his ability to burst away from packs and take strong marks inside 50 would lend to him having jumping power and speed, which is a great combination to have in the modern game, especially playing a role that demands those traits at the next level

Luke Pedlar Draft Profile

central.rookieme.com

 

[George CantStandYa]

He's taller than he looks ....but nothing I've seen changes my opinion, he's Garry McIntosh reincarnated ....but with a bit more class

Agree with Rookieme Central's assessment

STRENGTHS:

• Contested Game
• Power
• Tackling
• Scoreboard Impact
• Leadership
• Work-rate

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Finesse
• Clean hands

A midfield bull is a common term used for the likes of Joel Selwood and Ollie Wines, and Pedlar fits that term more than any other draft prospect this year. Pedlar will always put his head over the ball and will never deviate no matter what comes at him.

Pedlar wasn’t able to test at the start of the year or the end of the year which was unfortunate but his ability to burst away from packs and take strong marks inside 50 would lend to him having jumping power and speed, which is a great combination to have in the modern game, especially playing a role that demands those traits at the next level

Luke Pedlar Draft Profile

central.rookieme.com

From what I’ve seen he does not have the skill of Macca, Macca was a brute but highly skilled

 

[WaynesWorld19]

From what I’ve seen he does not have the skill of Macca, Macca was a brute but highly skilled

He's certainly no Crouch, that's for sure .....I think you have to factor in development in comparing the two players ....Pedlar is just starting his journey

 

[cleanhands]

From what I’ve seen he does not have the skill of Macca, Macca was a brute but highly skilled

Not the most popular with the Gaelic Community

 

[George CantStandYa]

Not the most popular with the Gaelic Community

That was a classic

 

[CrowFrenzy]

He's taller than he looks ....but nothing I've seen changes my opinion, he's Garry McIntosh reincarnated ....but with a bit more class

Agree with Rookieme Central's assessment

STRENGTHS:

• Contested Game
• Power
• Tackling
• Scoreboard Impact
• Leadership
• Work-rate

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Finesse
• Clean hands

A midfield bull is a common term used for the likes of Joel Selwood and Ollie Wines, and Pedlar fits that term more than any other draft prospect this year. Pedlar will always put his head over the ball and will never deviate no matter what comes at him.

Pedlar wasn’t able to test at the start of the year or the end of the year which was unfortunate but his ability to burst away from packs and take strong marks inside 50 would lend to him having jumping power and speed, which is a great combination to have in the modern game, especially playing a role that demands those traits at the next level

Luke Pedlar Draft Profile

central.rookieme.com

I'm sure we all hope you are right. Our midfield desperately needs genuine young talent.

 

[lincsPJ]

He's taller than he looks ....but nothing I've seen changes my opinion, he's Garry McIntosh reincarnated ....but with a bit more class

Agree with Rookieme Central's assessment

STRENGTHS:

• Contested Game
• Power
• Tackling
• Scoreboard Impact
• Leadership
• Work-rate

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Finesse
• Clean hands

A midfield bull is a common term used for the likes of Joel Selwood and Ollie Wines, and Pedlar fits that term more than any other draft prospect this year. Pedlar will always put his head over the ball and will never deviate no matter what comes at him.

Pedlar wasn’t able to test at the start of the year or the end of the year which was unfortunate but his ability to burst away from packs and take strong marks inside 50 would lend to him having jumping power and speed, which is a great combination to have in the modern game, especially playing a role that demands those traits at the next level

Luke Pedlar Draft Profile

central.rookieme.com

If we had a “Garry McIntosh clone but with even more class” we’d be in the 8.

Might’ve gone a bit early on the kid.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

If we had a “Garry McIntosh clone but with even more class” we’d be in the 8.

Might’ve gone a bit early on the kid.

Nah ....if your confident, go with "Premier Midfielder" status .....some players, you just know

Gotta get his body right ...... Darren Burgess do your stuff .... it's why you earn the big bucks !!!

 

[pjcrows]

Pedlar is McIntosh but with more class?

Yeah, and Newchurch is Bunji but with more speed and Sholl is Edwards but with more hair.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Case in point Ben Davis. The fact this guy is still on our list is a travesty.

If I didn't know who Ben Davis was and was told he'd been on a list for six years for six games, I would've thought he was a project ruckman.

 

[Ramify]

Tex is literally just about the best field kick in the AFL. Who better to teach our guys how to kick?

When? When they do kicking specific training? Why can't he teach them now? Probably because there is no focus on kicking at this club and never has been.
I can't think of any club that comes close to recruiting as many technically poor kicks as us over the journey.