List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[Plugger46]

Thought Damo made a good point in his sliding doors column on AFL.COM.AU.
Very evident of the last few years with below average drafting and only ever targeting one player. I laugh every year when Poort fail to get players but i admire how relevant they try and be every year with recruits

IF...​

Izak Rankine

23

Izak Rankine

Age

25

Ht

179cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.7

4star

D

13.0

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.7

4star

D

13.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.7

5star

CL

1.7

4star

from Gold Coast is already a "lock" and pick No.5 in this year's draft will at least in part be required to transact that...

THEN...​

why not also have a throw the stumps at Jason Horne-Francis, particularly while the Power and the Roos remain poles apart on what needs to be done? It may be 100-1, but why not engage with the Suns on a creative way to utilise pick No.5? And then obviously offer your first pick in next year's draft, as well as a very good player? But I bet they won't because this club has become pretty boring.

IF Horne-Francis wants out of North quick smart ... THEN

Sliding Doors is in full swing ... and the gloves are off

www.afl.com.au

 

[Trigger13]

Barrett might be a flog. But he’s right. We are boring. And we should be doing everything we can to come over the top for JHF. Laird and next year’s first. Thanks for coming.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Barrett might be a flog. But he’s right. We are boring. And we should be doing everything we can to come over the top for JHF. Laird and next year’s first. Thanks for coming.

You getting Laird to agree with this?

 

[WAG]

Lol. Barrett.

IF...​

Adelaide smashed this trade period and secured the Bont, Daicos and Gawn...

THEN...​

Barrett would find a way to twist that into a negative Sliding Doors story.


But then again he has a point. Although I'm not sure putting pick 4 on the table along with our 2022 first-round pick and Melbourne’s 2022 first-round pick for pick 1 qualifies as boring. But then again... Reid.

 

[Trigger13]

You getting Laird to agree with this?

Yeah wishful thinking, I know.

 

[skittlebrew]

Thought Damo made a good point in his sliding doors column on AFL.COM.AU.
Very evident of the last few years with below average drafting and only ever targeting one player. I laugh every year when Poort fail to get players but i admire how relevant they try and be every year with recruits

IF...​

Izak Rankine from Gold Coast is already a "lock" and pick No.5 in this year's draft will at least in part be required to transact that...

THEN...​

why not also have a throw the stumps at Jason Horne-Francis, particularly while the Power and the Roos remain poles apart on what needs to be done? It may be 100-1, but why not engage with the Suns on a creative way to utilise pick No.5? And then obviously offer your first pick in next year's draft, as well as a very good player? But I bet they won't because this club has become pretty boring.

IF Horne-Francis wants out of North quick smart ... THEN

Sliding Doors is in full swing ... and the gloves are off

www.afl.com.au

How are we going to have the draft capital if pick 5 is gone? Who can we even give up to get more? Lastly JHF didn't choose us...

Barrett might be a flog. But he’s right. We are boring. And we should be doing everything we can to come over the top for JHF. Laird and next year’s first. Thanks for coming.

We operate in the shadows moreso than other clubs. Would be a bit depressing hearing about constant failures to lure players.

 

[Crow till I die]

Apparently in our entire history we've only recruited 5 players that had previously played in a Premiership.

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Is this something we may need to look at in the future?

Not quite true, we have bode, frampton, downsborough and a few others from the perennial march premiers

 

[Maddogmetro]

Barrett might be a flog. But he’s right. We are boring. And we should be doing everything we can to come over the top for JHF. Laird and next year’s first. Thanks for coming.

Even if he is right about us being boring, he's wrong about the reason. Why the **** would we even attempt to get JHF with pick 5 already gone on Rankine? They will want two firsts at least, which we can't offer.

 

[Jetafl]

If Matt Crouch

5

Matt Crouch

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

does have interest. What about Crouch out Poulter in. I'd like Poulter on our list.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Thought Damo made a good point in his sliding doors column on AFL.COM.AU.
Very evident of the last few years with below average drafting and only ever targeting one player. I laugh every year when Poort fail to get players but i admire how relevant they try and be every year with recruits

IF...​

Izak Rankine from Gold Coast is already a "lock" and pick No.5 in this year's draft will at least in part be required to transact that...

THEN...​

why not also have a throw the stumps at Jason Horne-Francis, particularly while the Power and the Roos remain poles apart on what needs to be done? It may be 100-1, but why not engage with the Suns on a creative way to utilise pick No.5? And then obviously offer your first pick in next year's draft, as well as a very good player? But I bet they won't because this club has become pretty boring.

IF Horne-Francis wants out of North quick smart ... THEN

Sliding Doors is in full swing ... and the gloves are off

www.afl.com.au

We've become boring because previously every time we made some noise, the Vic Croc-of-Shit media came down on us like a tonne of bricks

 

[Mutineer]

Thought Damo made a good point in his sliding doors column on AFL.COM.AU.
Very evident of the last few years with below average drafting and only ever targeting one player. I laugh every year when Poort fail to get players but i admire how relevant they try and be every year with recruits

IF...​

Izak Rankine from Gold Coast is already a "lock" and pick No.5 in this year's draft will at least in part be required to transact that...

THEN...​

why not also have a throw the stumps at Jason Horne-Francis, particularly while the Power and the Roos remain poles apart on what needs to be done? It may be 100-1, but why not engage with the Suns on a creative way to utilise pick No.5? And then obviously offer your first pick in next year's draft, as well as a very good player? But I bet they won't because this club has become pretty boring.

IF Horne-Francis wants out of North quick smart ... THEN

Sliding Doors is in full swing ... and the gloves are off

www.afl.com.au

Purple Enuff said.

Another that finds it hard to grasp the reality that we don't have the collateral just for starters with Rankine coming in who we apparently committed to a year ago....and like Powa are finding North want player/players that are off limits.

 

[rabidcrow]

Even if he is right about us being boring, he's wrong about the reason. Why the * would we even attempt to get JHF with pick 5 already gone on Rankine? They will want two firsts at least, which we can't offer.

I think Barrett is full of it - and last year we were anything but boring. I reckon if you went back through his comments he was criticising us for not handing over pick 4 for Dawson and how unprofessional we were. Then Reid pulled out a massive deal to get Melbournes pick and the rest is history




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[Jetafl]

Thought Damo made a good point in his sliding doors column on AFL.COM.AU.
Very evident of the last few years with below average drafting and only ever targeting one player.

I agree with the below average drafting. I acknowledge it is harder for SA clubs WA clubs etc to attract players then if we were in Melbourne for example. Lists sports haven't helped but as we lets say before Rankine we have 4 areas/spots that need attention for instance then Rankine fills one of those spots. In they ideal world I'd like us to fill a couple spots this draft period and a couple next draft period. Not the one spot a year approach.

I'd also love it if we targeted our most pressing need a big bodies powerful mid and we haven't had one since we lost Danger at the end of 2015. That is not far of a decade as we wont have one in 2023 either.

 

[skam85]

Apparently in our entire history we've only recruited 5 players that had previously played in a Premiership.

View attachment 1528708

Is this something we may need to look at in the future?

Maybe we should have gone harder for Zaine Cordy

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Maybe we should have gone harder for Zaine Cordy

 

[baldandbroke]

Here's a scenario ...

What if JHF doesn't get done this year (unlikely but possible), would we be interested in a trade with Power for their first round pick this year + something for our first rounder next year?

Power will need capital for JHF in 2023, we could get something decent this year to go after Mattaes Phillipou?

I do not see how JHF ends up anywhere but Power, might as well see if we can leverage that.

 

[Thetrader15]

I agree with the below average drafting. I acknowledge it is harder for SA clubs WA clubs etc to attract players then if we were in Melbourne for example. Lists sports haven't helped but as we lets say before Rankine we have 4 areas/spots that need attention for instance then Rankine fills one of those spots. In they ideal world I'd like us to fill a couple spots this draft period and a couple next draft period. Not the one spot a year approach.

I'd also love it if we targeted our most pressing need a big bodies powerful mid and we haven't had one since we lost Danger at the end of 2015. That is not far of a decade as we wont have one in 2023 either.

Who are the "bodies powerful mids" we haven't gone after since 2015?

We had a huge crack at Dustin Martin in '16 (5yrs, $6m), Richmond just went with a longer deal (7 years).

 

[Cap]

This ought to get the pro and anti Rendell discussion going

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

This ought to get the pro and anti Rendell discussion going

Stacked! There's that magic word again.

 

[Cap]

Stacked! There's that magic word again.

Maybe he's got a job offer on the table.

 

[Maddogmetro]

Stacked! There's that magic word again.

I mean, it depends on the viewpoint. Maybe the Crows think,

'We have a number of young midfielders - Berry, Hately, Schoey, Pedlar, Soligo, Taylor. We think that, with time, they will provide us with the talented midfield that we need going forward, and we are betting on that.'

Whether or not that is correct is another thing. But 'stacked' with potential talent? Maybe.

Stacked with current talent - not so much.

 

[WAG]

This ought to get the pro and anti Rendell discussion going

Lol. Someone check the date on the team sheet he's looking at.

 

[Jetafl]

This ought to get the pro and anti Rendell discussion going

Would be more accurate to say our midfield is stacked with mosquitos

 

[Magma]

Thought Damo made a good point in his sliding doors column on AFL.COM.AU.
Very evident of the last few years with below average drafting and only ever targeting one player. I laugh every year when Poort fail to get players but i admire how relevant they try and be every year with recruits

IF...​

Izak Rankine from Gold Coast is already a "lock" and pick No.5 in this year's draft will at least in part be required to transact that...

THEN...​

why not also have a throw the stumps at Jason Horne-Francis, particularly while the Power and the Roos remain poles apart on what needs to be done? It may be 100-1, but why not engage with the Suns on a creative way to utilise pick No.5? And then obviously offer your first pick in next year's draft, as well as a very good player? But I bet they won't because this club has become pretty boring.

IF Horne-Francis wants out of North quick smart ... THEN

Sliding Doors is in full swing ... and the gloves are off

www.afl.com.au

what, havent we provided these blokes with enough column inches over the last 5 years?

 

[Crows I Am]

Thought Damo made a good point in his sliding doors column on AFL.COM.AU.
Very evident of the last few years with below average drafting and only ever targeting one player. I laugh every year when Poort fail to get players but i admire how relevant they try and be every year with recruits

IF...​

Izak Rankine from Gold Coast is already a "lock" and pick No.5 in this year's draft will at least in part be required to transact that...

THEN...​

why not also have a throw the stumps at Jason Horne-Francis, particularly while the Power and the Roos remain poles apart on what needs to be done? It may be 100-1, but why not engage with the Suns on a creative way to utilise pick No.5? And then obviously offer your first pick in next year's draft, as well as a very good player? But I bet they won't because this club has become pretty boring.

IF Horne-Francis wants out of North quick smart ... THEN

Sliding Doors is in full swing ... and the gloves are off

www.afl.com.au

What a tool. I'd rather be boring than having scandals and negative stories coming out like we have in the past!

And how is trading our first round pick for 1 of the most exciting your prospects in the league boring? Boring would be doing nothing and sitting on our hands.