NFL 2022 - Pre-Draft Discussion and Mock Drafts

[Constantgin]

Likely going top 10 now after his awesome combine performance

 

[exe ex machina]

Kayvon Thibodeaux calls himself Jadeveon Clowney 2.0​

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 5, 2022, 7:31 AM EST

Oregon defensive end Kayvon Thibodeaux has been mentioned as a potential first overall pick in the 2022 NFL draft, and he sees himself as similar to the first overall pick in the 2014 NFL draft.

Thibodeaux said at the Scouting Combine that he sees himself as similar to Jadeveon Clowney, who went to the Texans in the 2014 draft and has also spent time with the Seahawks, Titans and Browns.

“I’m like Jadeveon 2.0,” Thibodeaux said, via the Houston Chronicle.

Thibodeaux said Clowney “was great” but “didn’t have all the skills and tools as far as pass-rush skills and things like that.” On the other hand, Thibodeaux described himself as having “a lot of skills” and “the hunger to keep going.”

Thibodeaux isn’t lacking for confidence in his ability to make a big impact at the next level.

 

[exe ex machina]

Never like hearing such talk pre-draft. Famous last words.

 

[Constantgin]

Why would he model himself on a guy who has been average at best.

 

[exe ex machina]

Shemozzle of a combine this season, so many players opting out of the 40 and the bench press.

Combine schedule change prompts prospects to skip the bench press​

Posted by Charean Williams on March 4, 2022, 10:16 PM EST

The Scouting Combine moved the bench press to the same day as on-field drills this year. That prompted most prospects to opt out of showing how many times they can bench 225 pounds.

Only 18 of 59 offensive linemen opted to lift Friday, the Associated Press reports. Other positions saw similar numbers of non-participants in the bench press.

“I’m just going to do it at my Pro Day,” Colorado linebacker Nate Landman said, via the AP. “My bench would be at 10 a.m., and my 40 is at 8 p.m. You don’t want to rile up and go back down and then try to rile back up again, which a lot of guys are finding out.

“And it’s a lot of stress, this whole process. And so, when I can relieve that by pushing some stuff to Pro Day, then why not? Just to be at peak performance.”

Organizers suggested the change was made to shorten the time players are in Indianapolis and came in response to previous post-combine surveys. Some players complained that soreness from the day after lifting impacted their workout results.

The Associated Press also indicated the schedule change was made to accommodate the shift of the workouts to prime time for television.

Zion Johnson, a guard from Boston College, has the most reps of participants thus far with 32.

 

[Constantgin]

 

[drd23]

Shemozzle of a combine this season, so many players opting out of the 40 and the bench press.

Combine schedule change prompts prospects to skip the bench press​

Posted by Charean Williams on March 4, 2022, 10:16 PM EST

The Scouting Combine moved the bench press to the same day as on-field drills this year. That prompted most prospects to opt out of showing how many times they can bench 225 pounds.

Only 18 of 59 offensive linemen opted to lift Friday, the Associated Press reports. Other positions saw similar numbers of non-participants in the bench press.

“I’m just going to do it at my Pro Day,” Colorado linebacker Nate Landman said, via the AP. “My bench would be at 10 a.m., and my 40 is at 8 p.m. You don’t want to rile up and go back down and then try to rile back up again, which a lot of guys are finding out.

“And it’s a lot of stress, this whole process. And so, when I can relieve that by pushing some stuff to Pro Day, then why not? Just to be at peak performance.”

Organizers suggested the change was made to shorten the time players are in Indianapolis and came in response to previous post-combine surveys. Some players complained that soreness from the day after lifting impacted their workout results.

The Associated Press also indicated the schedule change was made to accommodate the shift of the workouts to prime time for television.

Zion Johnson, a guard from Boston College, has the most reps of participants thus far with 32.

On the same topic

 

[Constantgin]

I want guy thats compete at combine, not lets work out under perfect conditions cos that never happens in a nfl game.

 

[exe ex machina]

Stupid too cos look at Jordan Davis, doing a drill can shoot you up boards.

 

[exe ex machina]

Amaré Barno runs fastest official 40 for a defensive lineman since 2003​

Posted by Mike Florio on March 5, 2022, 7:20 PM EST

Amaré Barno is big. And he’s fast.

The six-foot, six-inch, 245-pound defensive lineman ran an official 4.36-second 40-yard dash at the Scouting Combine on Saturday.

Per the NFL, it’s the fastest 40 for a defensive lineman since 2003.

Obviously, speed in a straight line is just one piece of a broader puzzle. As someone told me years ago, the only time anyone runs 40 yards in a straight line during a football game is when something very good is happening, or when something very bad is happening. And it never happens without the player in full pads and a helmet.

Still, Barno is fast. That’s always better than the alternative.

 

[exe ex machina]

Michigan DE Aidan Hutchinson ran a 4.75-second 40-yard dash at the NFL Combine.​

It's another eye-popping 40-time for a very large man at the Combine. Hutchinson, who stands 6'7" and weighs 260 pounds, is expected to be a top-five pick in the 2022 draft, perhaps remaining in Michigan with the Lions. The 2021 Heisman finalist is confirming his status as an elite defensive prospect who has a shot at being the No. 1 overall pick.
SOURCE: NFL on Twitter
Mar 5, 2022, 6:03 PM ET

 

[drd23]

More interested in the 10yd split than the 40 for most positions

 

[Constantgin]

Yeah 40 yard dash means hardly anything for DL or OL when do they run that far in a game. Only when they run to celebrate a td

 

[exe ex machina]

Kalon Barnes generates second-fastest 40-yard dash in Scouting Combine history​

Posted by Mike Florio on March 6, 2022, 4:04 PM EST

Baylor cornerback Kalon Barnes is extremely fast. Officially, the second-fastest guy to run 40 yards in a straight line at the Scouting Combine.

His official time of 4.23 seconds puts him at No. 2 all-time for the event, behind only receiver John Ross and the 4.22-second 40-yard dash he generated in 2017.

The next fastest 40 came from running back Chris Johnson

Chris Johnson

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49

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180cm

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88kg

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Last 5

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13.7

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8.6

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5.1

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

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9.0

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7.0

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3.2

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in 2008, with a 4.24-second 40.

Most of the guys who ran the 40 in the quickest times never did much in the NFL. With the exception of Johnson, really fast in the 40 often means really short NFL career.

So congratulations for now, Kalon Barnes. Condolences, possibly, later.

 

[Constantgin]

GG.exe This one's for you

 

[aussiedude]

GG.exe This one's for you

its a touchback. but kicking 75yds with no rush is like the guys who can make 60yd FG's pre game but struggle to hit 45yds in game.

 

[Constantgin]

its a touchback. but kicking 75yds with no rush is like the guys who can make 60yd FG's pre game but struggle to hit 45yds in game.

Its more that there footage of something related to special teams at combine. I agree looking at it again its a touchback.

 

[Sven]

I want guy thats compete at combine, not lets work out under perfect conditions cos that never happens in a nfl game.

TBH, the Combine has jumped the shark. The NFL has turned it into a made for TV event and the demands on the players have become excessive. Most players will end up doing their drills at their pro day.

The Vikings podcast I listen to was more interested in the GM and coach discussions than anything related to the draftees. Even those types of interactions are at risk with some coaches and GMs skipping the Combine this year.

 

[exe ex machina]

This was my 2021 pre-draft position ranks...some hits and misses...

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QB	RB	WR	TE	INTERIOR	EDGE	LB	CB	S	K/P
Justin Fields	Najee Harris	J'Marr Chase	Kyle Pitts	Christian Barmore	Jaelan Phillips	Micah Parsons	Jaycee Horn	Jevon Holland	Even McPherson
Mac Jones	Travis Etienne	Jaylen Waddle	Peter Freiermuth	Isaiahh Loudermilk	Kwity Paye	Zaven Collins	Pat Surtain II	Richie Grant	Riley Patterson
Trevor Lawrence	Javonte Williams	Devonta Smith	Hunter Long	Levi Onwuzurike	Gregory Rousseau	Jamin Davis	Caleb Farley	Trevon Moehrig
Zach Wilson	Eli Mitchell	Elijah Moore	Tommy Tremble	Milton Williams	Odafe Oweh	J,Owusu-Koramoah	Greg Newsome II	Andre Cisco	Jose Borregales
		Nico Collins	John Bates	Osa Odighizuwa	Azeez Ojulari	Nick Bolton	Erik Stokes	Brandon Stephens	Blake Haubeil
Trey Lance	Michael Carter	Amon-Ra St.Brown	Luke Farrell	Alim Mcneill		Pete Werner		Caden Sterns	Quinn Nordin
Kyle Trask	R.Stevenson	Kadarius Toney		Tommy Togiai	Joe Tryon	Ernest Jones	Tyson Campbell	Tyree Gillespie
Kellen Mond	Trey Sermon		Tre' McKitty	Ta'quon Graham	Quincy Roche		Kelvin Joseph	Divine Deablo
	Jerrick Patterson	Rashod Bateman	Kylen Granson	Daviyon Nixon	Patrick Johnson	Chazz Surratt	Asante Samuel Jr
Davis Mills	Kene Nwangwu	Rondale Moore	Brevin Jordan		Chris Garrett	Monty Rice	Elijah Molden	Jamien Sherwood	Pressley Harvin III
KJ Costello	Chuba Hubbard	D'Wayne Eskridge	Noah Gray	Jay Tutele	Payton Turner	Baron Browning	Nate Hobbs	Derrick Forest
Peyton Ramsey	Kenneth Gainwell	Tutu Atwell	Zach Davidson	Bobby Brown III	Malcolm Koonce	Derrick Barnes	Thomas Graham Jr	Jamar Johnson	James Smith
Shane Buechele	Gary Brightwell	Terrace Marshall Jr		Tyler Shelvin	Cameron Sample	Jabril Cox	Brandin Echols	Shawn Davis	Max Duffy
	Larry Rountree III	Josh Palmer		Tedarrell Slaton	Jordan Smith	Buddy Johnson	Tre Norwood	Richard Lecounte III	Drue Chrisman
	Chris Evans	Dyami Brown		Marlon Tuipulotu	Jonathon Cooper	Tony Fields II	Aaron Robinson	Talanoa Hufunga	Adam Williams
	Khalil Herbert	Amari Rodgers		Quinton Bohanna	Janarius Robinson	Garret Wallow	Benjamin St-Juste	Hamsah Nasirildeen
	Jake Funk	Anthony Schwartz		Ray Lopez	A.Ogundeji	K.J. Britt	Paulson Adebo	Joshuah Bledsoe
	Gerrid Doaks	Dez Fitzpatrick		Jaylen Twyman	Joseph Ossai	Cameron Mcgrone	Nahshon Wright	Demar Hamlin
	Kylin Hill	Jaelon Darden		Jonathan Marshall	Ronnie Perkins	Nick Niemann	Ifeatu Melifonwu	Brady Breeze
	Jermar Jefferson	Tylan Wallace		Phil Hoskins	Dayo Odeyingbo	Isaiah Mcduffie	Ambry Thomas	Jacoby Stevens
		Jacob Harris		Khyiris Tonga	Boogie Basham	Grant Stuard	Darren Hall	Mark Webb
		Ihmir Smith-Marsette			Chauncey Golston		Zech Mcphearson	James Wiggins
		Simi Fehoko			Rashad Weaver		Camryn Bynum
		Cornell Powell			Joshua Kaindoh		Robert Rochell
		Frank Darby			Earnest Brown IV		Marco Wilson
		Marquez Stevenson			Tarron Jackson		Tre Brown
		Shmi Smith			Wyatt Hubert		Michael Carter II
		Racey McMath			Will Bradley-King		Shaun Wade
		Jalen Camp			Marquiss Spencer		Keith Taylor
		Demetric Felton			Elerson G. Smith		Deommodore Lenoir
		Seth Williams			Chris Rumph II		Jason Pinnock
		Dazz Newsome			Daelin Hayes		S.Jean-Charles
		Mike Strachan			Victor Dimukeje		Avery Williams
		Tre Nixon			Daelin Hayes		Rodarius Williams
		Ben Skowronek			Victor Dimukeje		Rachad Wildgoose
		Kawaan Baker			Shaka Toney		Tay Gowan
		Dax Milne					Israel Mukuama
							Kary Vincent Jr
							Chris Wilcox

 

[exe ex machina]

Have done my 2022 QB and almost done with RB, still a fair way to go before I complete all positions.

My QB rankings is pretty controversial.

 

[Constantgin]

If drake London isn’t your wr1 we can’t be friends anymore

My qbs would be a bit different aswell

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Have done my 2022 QB and almost done with RB, still a fair way to go before I complete all positions.

My QB rankings is pretty controversial.

They all suck so I would assume lots of people have different opinions.

Willis and Strong my clear top two but im not in love with either. Corral #3 ( but hes an injury prone bastard) and Zappe #4 on my next tier then Ritter #5 only cause I think hes slightly less overrated than Pickett and Howell.

I cant overstate how much Kenny Pickett sucks. The ball takes an age to reach targets and dies in the air half way there. Two glove wearing noodle arm.

 

[exe ex machina]

If drake London isn’t your wr1 we can’t be friends anymore

My qbs would be a bit different aswell

So far this is what I have....(RB, i've done 40 of the 110 candidates. I don't think many of the 70 left will make my final list.

As you can see I've left off completely some QB and RB that are touted. I just don't like them at all -- Breece Hall and Kenneth Walker. And for QB, Cole Kelley didnt even make my list, he's shit, the next John Skelton. Also a bunch of others not worth even listing, like Perry, Crum, Purdy, etc.

QB	RB
sam howell	brian robinson
matt corral	hassan haskins
kenny pickett	isaiah spiller
malik willis	rachaad white
carson strong
	kyren williams
bailey zappe	dameon pierce
cole johnson	pierre strong
trae self	zamir white
skylar thompson	tyler allgeier
anthony brown	ty chandler
jack coan	keaontay ingram
desmond ridder	abram smith
	sincere mccormick
	cj verdell
	tj pledger
	jashaun corbin
	jaylen warren
	kevin harris
	isaih pacheco
	bj baylor

 

[Constantgin]

I think best quarterback in this draft will end being picked 2nd or 3rd round. If I was a gm I wouldn’t even think about drafting one build up oline and wr for next years qb class

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Im hearing some people say Hall is the biggest cant miss RB prospect since Elliott.