NFL 2022 - Pre-Draft Discussion and Mock Drafts

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The Cousins talk is warming up within Panther circles despite the Vikings talking it down, I got nothing against Kirk, but he isn't the answer, still a massive upgrade on what we have however. Not a fan of us giving up any more decent picks for re tread QBs, would take him for a pure salary dump from the Vikings for fu** all but not much else.

He'd be great for the statsheet of CMC, Moore & co. but that's about it. No thanks.

 

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“Whatever it measures, it measures,” Pickett said at his press conference. “I’m sure that won’t be the end of it, but that’ll be the last measurement I’m sure I’ll take of it.”

Just because Pickett’s hands are smaller than average doesn’t mean he won’t be able to throw a football. Michael Vick’s hands also measured at 8.5 inches back in 2001.

But Pickett did fumble 26 times from 2018-2021, losing 12 of them. Like every quarterback, Pickett will have to focus on ball security for whoever elects to draft him if he’s going to be a long-term NFL starter.

 

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Pickett sucks.

 

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Keyshawn Johnson told Giants to take him off their board when they wanted a psychological evaluation​

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 3, 2022, 6:52 AM EST

For decades, the NFL has used intelligence tests and psychological tests to evaluate draft prospects, and for decades some players have felt those tests are overly invasive. This year, the NFL stopped implementing the Wonderlic test, although individual teams can still give it to prospects.

The Giants, however, were famous — or infamous — for many years for giving prospects a very lengthy psychological profile, asking college players to sit down for hours to be evaluated. Many players didn’t like it, but most felt that they couldn’t say anything, because they were eager to get drafted and didn’t want to alienate any team that might pick them.

Keyshawn Johnson, the first overall pick in the 1996 NFL draft, said on his radio show this morning that the Giants, who owned the fifth overall pick that year, asked him to sit down for hours to do a psychological evaluation.

“The Giants, Jeremiah Davis [a longtime scout for the team], was the head guy at the time in the scouting department. He said, ‘Keyshawn, we’re thinking about taking you at 5. . . . But you have to take this psychological evaluation test that we give to all our prospective draftees,'” Johnson said.

When Johnson asked Davis how long the test would take, Davis said a couple hours, and Johnson told him he didn’t want to devote that much time to a psychological evaluation.

“He said, ‘You have to do it or else we have to take you off our board, which means we will not draft you at 5 and you may fall,'” Johnson recalled. “I said, I ain’t gonna do it. Go ahead and take me off your board.”

Johnson could do that because he had been in close contact with both the Jets at No. 1 and the Jaguars at No. 2, and he was sure that he would be off the board before the Giants picked at No. 5. Other draft prospects weren’t of Johnson’s caliber, however, and had to sit for the Giants’ test.

And Johnson wasn’t the only one: Deion Sanders told a similar story about the Giants wanting him to take the test in 1989. Sanders went fifth overall and the Giants had the 18th pick, and Sanders was also confident enough that the Giants weren’t drafting him that he didn’t feel the need to sit down for two hours and take their test.

George Young, the longtime General Manager of the Giants, was the driving force behind the Giants’ psychological test. When coach Dan Reeves left the Giants at the end of the 1996 season, he blamed Young’s test for many of the team’s personnel failures, saying that he fundamentally disagreed with Young wasting everyone’s time with such a long exam when there was so much more important information that could be gleaned from simply watching the player’s college tape.

“My contention is that a young man in college who goes to a Combine and has to go through all kinds of tests in the Combine and then you ask him to sit down and take a two-hour test, he’s not that excited,” Reeves said. “So how valid is a two-hour test?”

Johnson didn’t think it was valid at all. Neither did Sanders. And they had every right to blanche at the Giants’ request. Unfortunately, most players sat through the test because they felt they had no choice.

 

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Tightends at combine

 

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when the time became official it was no longer a record...

 

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Baylor’s Tyquan Thornton runs 4.28-second 40-yard dash, fastest receiver at the Combine​

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 4, 2022, 4:19 AM EST

Baylor wide receiver Tyquan Thornton is the fastest wide receiver at the 2022 NFL Scouting Combine.

Thornton ran his 40-yard dash in an official time of 4.28 seconds, topping what was a very fast group of wide receivers.

Eight wide receivers ran a 40 faster than 4.4 seconds: Thornton, Tennessee’s Velus Jones (4.31), Memphis’ Calvin Austin III (4.32), SMU’s Danny Gray (4.33), Rutgers’ Bo Melton (4.34), North Dakota State’s Christian Watson (4.36), Ohio State’s Garrett Wilson (4.38) and Ohio State’s Chris Olave’s (4.39).

The 6-foot-2, 181-pound Thornton has good size to go along with his great speed. Last year at Baylor he caught 62 passes for 948 yards and 10 touchdowns, all the best marks of his four-year college career. He is not viewed as one of the elite receiver prospects in this year’s draft, but that 40 time will open some eyes around the NFL

 

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Wish he run at the combine by far my favourite wideout in this draft.

 

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Combine results doesn't matter much tape, work ethic, interviews more important than 40 time.

For example Jerry Rice ran 4.71 at combine but was hardly ever caught from behind. Just was game fast not track fast.

 

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It's official: Daniel Faalele is a giant.
The Minnesota offensive tackle had his measurements taken Friday at the 2022 NFL Scouting Combine, and the numbers are a sight to behold:

• Height: 6-foot-8
• Weight: 384 pounds(!)
• Hand size: 11 inches
• Arm length: 35 1/8 inches
• Wingspan: 85 1/8 inches

According to the NFL Research database, which goes back to 2003, Faalele is the modern combine's heaviest player ever -- by 15 pounds. In fact, with that listed weight, he's heavier than any active player in the NFL today.

 

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All combine results

 

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Lots of WRs didn't do the 3 cone drill yesterday

 

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Combine results doesn't matter much tape, work ethic, interviews more important than 40 time.

For example Jerry Rice ran 4.71 at combine but was hardly ever caught from behind. Just was game fast not track fast.

It's true, but at the same time, I watched the entire day one, TE/WR/QB, and seeing how they perform certain drills was illuminating too. Made my own "board" move around a bit.

Eg....TE, the sled push drill, so many of them looked terrible, theyre gonna be long term projects, looked ok as receivers, but suspect blockers. McBride stood out as someone who could start day one. And Heyward as an all purpose H-back.

WR ...seeing so many explosive athletes, but a few stood out across the board (vert + 40 + broad), notice taken, that range of athletic explosiveness is key to stand a chance in the NFL when so many top CBs are as explosive. Guys like Pierce rose imo. But also certain drills like Gauntlet and the route tree drills....a few were impressive, so fluid, kept on the line, ran the routes properly, while so many were not fluid and kinda goofy. Guys like Woods, Olave, Moore, Shakir...were far smoother than others.

QB....noticed so many of them were wildly inconsistent with accuracy and footwork in their drills. Willis a big project, Strong not good, Howell down a peg, Pickett firmed, Ridder firmed. Perry rose above Coan, Kelley, Purdy types. Little things like placement of the fade jump ball, placement of the deep go, the quick slant, the out, etc, some were more consistent placing it were it needed to be and others were all over the shop -- underthrown, owlverthrown, too flat, at the knees, too high not in sync, etc.

I went back late last night, and reviewed "vs videos" on youtube and notoced such things that I didnt before. Re-arranged my board.

Im just an amateur, i am sure the expert coaches and GMs see far more and have changed their boards too.

 

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Jordan Davis shows incredible speed at 341 pounds​

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 5, 2022, 4:36 PM EST

Georgia defensive tackle Jordan Davis put on a shocking display in the 40-yard dash today at the Scouting Combine.

The 6-foot-6, 341-pound Davis ran the 40 in an official time of 4.78 seconds, a stunning show of speed for a player that size.

That’s the fastest 40-yard dash ever at the Combine for a player that big. The only player even in the same vicinity as Davis in both size and speed is Dontari Poe, who ran a 4.89-second 40 at 346 pounds at the 2012 Combine.

Davis isn’t just a workout warrior; he won the Chuck Bednarik Award as the best defensive player in college football last year, and also won the Outland Trophy as the best lineman in college football.