NFL 2022 - Pre-Draft Discussion and Mock Drafts

[Constantgin]

Same for Giants can't see them passing on him either.

 

[drd23]

Trevor Penning the big riser im seeing, decent chance he goes in the top 10, deep OL class.

He's an even bigger project than Ickey is. I'm not even sure I'd want the Ravens to take him at 14 - I can't imagine being happy as a fan of a team picking in the top 10 if he's who the pick is

 

[exe ex machina]

NFL prepares for inevitability of paying players to attend the Scouting Combine​

Posted by Mike Florio on March 1, 2022, 10:40 AM EST

When it comes to the Scouting Combine, a reckoning is long overdue. The NFL is currently preparing for it.

In comments to Ken Belson and Jenny Vrentas of the New York Times, NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent has acknowledged the possibility of paying players to participate in the process.

“Based off the landscape of the sport environment, you have NIL, you’ve got the transfer portal, we have to be prepared for anything in the future,” Vincent said. “So I’m not taking that off the table. I would just say we have to be ready and prepared for all and to discuss all things.”

The question becomes how to properly set the stage for paying players. They aren’t yet represented by the union; thus, it becomes much harder to engineer the kind of collective action that would compel the league to comply. That said, agents and players came together last week, using the threat of boycotting Combine workouts to leverage the league to burst a loose and confusing bubble that would have applied to the proceedings.

Then there’s the reality that any money paid to the incoming players becomes less money that current players receive. The revenue generated by the Combine is shared by the league and the union. Thus, while prospective players will get nothing and like it, the current players have the salary cap increased by the money the Combine generates.

Regardless, the players deserve something for providing the running, jumping, throwing, and catching from which the broader machine profits. Especially now that 10,000 fans will be in the lower bowl, cheering on the participants and adding to the greater sense that the Combine has become as much or more about made-for-TV entertainment as it is about screening candidates for employment.

The iT’s A jOB iNTeRvIEw crowd needs to give it a rest. It’s a meat market. It’s de-humanizing. It’s excessive. It’s not a day or two devoted to sitting and speaking. It’s weeks of being interrogated and tested and scrutinized and whispered about and otherwise subject to the broader cloak-and-dagger gamesmanship in which all teams engage as they try to harvest the best possible players from each and every draft class.

Still, the televised aspects of the Combine aren’t about a job interview. They’re about providing NFL entertainment at a time when NFL games aren’t being played. It’s only fair that the people providing the basis for the entertainment will participate in the fruits of their labor.

 

[exe ex machina]

J.C. Tretter: Turning the Scouting Combine into a TV show is not to the players’ benefit​

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 1, 2022, 12:29 PM EST

The players at the Scouting Combine are not yet in the NFL and therefore not yet members of the NFL Players Association. But the NFLPA still has some thoughts on the Combine, and in general, the union is not a fan of the way the league trots out prospective players for a TV audience.

NFLPA President J.C. Tretter said that the league seems more interested in using the Combine as content for NFL Network than in doing what’s best for the next generation of NFL players.

“As it has shifted to being made a reality TV show, and been shifted away from its original need, it’s become less and less valuable,” Tretter told the New York Times. “Making it a prime time television event, pushing it late at night, is another instance where it’s not to the players’ benefit that they have to go out there and perform, and their draft stock relies on good performance.”

The NFLPA has long opposed the Combine and has told players that they should feel free to skip it, but few players do. As much as the union, agents and players may dislike the Combine, players still hope they can perform well enough to improve their draft stock. And the NFL will continue to turn those players’ efforts into one of its most popular offseason TV shows.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Fine with me

 

[exe ex machina]

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Proving straight line speed is one of the most overrated measurements at the combine.

 

[exe ex machina]

For the “take a QB on day 2-3 crowd”.....In the last 20+ years there have been 6 franchise QBs and over 200 busts that were drafted in rounds 2-7.

 

[Constantgin]

For the “take a QB on day 2-3 crowd”.....In the last 20+ years there have been 6 franchise QBs and over 200 busts that were drafted in rounds 2-7.

Who are the 6 franchise QBs ?

 

[exe ex machina]

Who are the 6 franchise QBs ?

Brady, Wilson, Carr, Prescott, ??

 

[exe ex machina]

Cousins

 

[exe ex machina]

Garoppolo

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

loose definition of a franchise QB.

 

[exe ex machina]

Based on current NFL teams starters thats true tho.

Everyone else was a 1st round draft pick. Heinicke, Romo, Warner were undrafted free agents.

 

[exe ex machina]

Brees 2nd

 

[exe ex machina]

1st Round....
Jones, Tagovailoa, Z.Wilson, Allen, Roethlisberger, Mayfield, Jackson, Burrow, Wentz, Tannehill, Watson, Lawrence, Herbert, Mahomes, Hurts, Jones, Rodgers, Fields, Goff, Ryan, Newton, Darnold, Winston, Stafford, Murray....and backups....Trubisky, Mariota, Gabbert, Bortles, J.Love, Lance, Dalton

2nd Round...
Carr, Brees, Garoppolo, Trask, Mond, Mills,

3rd Round....
R.Wilson, Cousins

4th Round...
Prescott

6th Round....
Brady

UDFA....
Romo, Warner, Heinicke

 

[rumply]

 

[exe ex machina]

Jaguars GM Trent Baalke said, "You're always open for business," when asked about trading the first-overall pick.​

Baalke followed that up by saying, "We're very comfortable with taking the pick as well." Baalke was no stranger to moving up and down the draft board during his time as the 49ers' general manager. The Jags have an uncountable number of holes in their roster and the extra picks gained from trading down would go a long way in patching them. If another franchise is desperate to land the player of their dreams at the top of the draft, Baalke would be wise to let them pay a premium to shoot their shot.
SOURCE: Demtrius Harvey on Twitter
Mar 1, 2022, 6:29 PM ET

 

[exe ex machina]

I scouted him last year. Was a beast dual threat QB. Shame hes decided to convert to TE.

 

[Constantgin]

 

[Constantgin]

Its the off the wall stuff like shooting hoops at mini hoop to see how you handle pressure that i like at combine. 2/5 means you don't.

 

[EFL Boy]

Fine with me

 

[Constantgin]

Not sure i thought panthers would go OL last year in 1st aswell. There the hardest team to pick i reckon in top 10.

Worried they go qb there are links with rhule and Kenny Pickett with Rhule having recruited him to play for him in college before he changed teams.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Not sure i thought panthers would go OL last year in 1st aswell. There the hardest team to pick i reckon in top 10.

Worried they go qb there are links with rhule and Kenny Pickett with Rhule having recruited him to play for him in college before he changed teams.

Fitterer has said oline is the priority #1 this offseason. I believe we go oline unless we miraculously sign heaps of gun olineman in free agency (highly doubtful)

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

We wanted Sewell last year, he was our top pick but Detroit nabbed him the pick before us.

They didnt want Slater cause apparently they thought his arms were too short to be a gun tackle in the NFL