List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[Heaps of fun]

Their cap is so farrrked up they cant afford to pay the Bowes contract or the contract of the pick 7 draft pick. After the initial 2 year contract pick 7 must get min $450,000 contract. Plus they are going to receive pick 5 from adelaide for rankine. Pick 7 is expendable, they will do the deal for a late draft pick.

That is my understanding anyway.

What?

 

[The Anvil]

Their cap is so farrrked up they cant afford to pay the Bowes contract or the contract of the pick 7 draft pick. After the initial 2 year contract pick 7 must get min $450,000 contract. Plus they are going to receive pick 5 from adelaide for rankine. Pick 7 is expendable, they will do the deal for a late draft pick.

That is my understanding anyway.

Begs the question on how GC was going to pay Rankine if he stayed. Ditch even more contracted players?

 

[New_Roo]

Please in future refer to him as Taranto. I skipped a few pages and had aminor heart moment when I thought you meant our TT. How can this be was the alarming thought that ran through my head.

Apologies for the heart attack!


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[giantroo]

Begs the question on how GC was going to pay Rankine if he stayed. Ditch even more contracted players?

Sharp, Rankine, Bowes, Fiorini are going which should open some space for them now.

 

[The Anvil]

Sharp, Rankine, Bowes, Fiorini are going which should open some space for them now.

Amazing to have such a surplus of talent and picks that doing this makes sense.

How much better would we have been this year just by inserting these four blokes on our list?

 

[speedy]

I'd almost give bowes a godfather offer.
Imagine ending up this trade and draft period with pick 1, 7, Log, Tucker, Clark, Bowes & Cooper? Fa@rkin job done!

 

[Psicosis]

I’d really like to know what GC want in return for Bowes and pick 7 , I doubt that they would just giving it away in order to salary dump . There has to be more to it .

They want a future first apparently.

 

[Hazey1977]

They want a future first apparently.

They're totally misunderstanding how salary dumping works then it seems?

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[roos 10]

They want a future first apparently.

Give them our future 2nd it will only be a few pick of Geelong first round we’ll let them think that anyway

 

[The Filth Wizard]

What's the likelihood we just take cadman at 1? Will we bid on ashcroft?

If we held pick 1 I think we would draft with it, no point handing Ashcroft 10k for nothing.

As for who we take I'm none the wiser, on a given day it could be any of Cadman, Wardlaw or Sheezel IMO and even then I can't rule out Tsatas. Full blanket on four.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

At a guess Tucker would be 300-350k
Bowes 850k.
He would want to be better.
500k is another good player.

Tucker costs us draft capital. Bowes give us another top 10 pick.

I wouldn't care if Bowes was a complete dud, a 2 year deal for a role player with pick 7 is worth it. Especially for us when we need more elite talent and have stacks of salary cap space.

 

[Val Keating]

They want a future first apparently.

They can stick that then considering next year’s draft and our likely pick in that draft

 

[The Anvil]

They can stick that then considering next year’s draft and our likely pick in that draft

Personally I feel like a pick swap of 7 this year for 18 next year seems like a good trade!

 

[buttox]

Tucker costs us draft capital. Bowes give us another top 10 pick.

I wouldn't care if Bowes was a complete dud, a 2 year deal for a role player with pick 7 is worth it. Especially for us when we need more elite talent and have stacks of salary cap space.

He wont be signing anywhere for a 2 year deal. 4 min I reckon.
That is a lot of the 13.5mil salary cap.
I would be fine with it if we had already extended LDU, Buckets and JHF.
He is a decent player I agree with you and pick 7 would be lovely.
But he needs to pick us before it is even an option.
Tucker will be cheap depth which is perfect for us.
Sign Logue and Tucker and we still have 3 open list spots for senior players.
It is not one or the other.

 

[Mixed Results]

If the Bowes deal goes through to Geelong, then I would want Geelong and Gold Coast's recent trading history to be investigated by the AFL.

It would essentially be:
2019: Geelong traded pick 27 for pick 15 and pick 67.
2020: Geelong traded pick 52 for pick 27
2022: Geelong traded pick ~20 for pick 7 and Bowes

 

[Harris 10]

Tucker costs us draft capital. Bowes give us another top 10 pick.

I wouldn't care if Bowes was a complete dud, a 2 year deal for a role player with pick 7 is worth it. Especially for us when we need more elite talent and have stacks of salary cap space.

Bowes would be an upgrade on a lot of bloke that played regularly for us this year.
If it’s just cash and a future 2nd to get Bowes and 7 then we should be all over this.

After Logue it should be our number 1 priority.

 

[Makeshift Park]

He wont be signing anywhere for a 2 year deal. 4 min I reckon.
That is a lot of the 13.5mil salary cap.
I would be fine with it if we had already extended LDU, Buckets and JHF.
He is a decent player I agree with you and pick 7 would be lovely.
But he needs to pick us before it is even an option.
Tucker will be cheap depth which is perfect for us.
Sign Logue and Tucker and we still have 3 open list spots for senior players.
It is not one or the other.

I hear you. But just throw caution to the wind for a moment, and imagine getting the two highest ranked KPPs in the whole draft this year.

Logue, Clark, Bowes, Tucker.
Cadman, Busslinger, Harvey.

All its missing is a small forward and - financials aside - its a perfect haul for where we are at.

 

[Psicosis]

I hear you. But just throw caution to the wind for a moment, and imagine getting the two highest ranked KPPs in the whole draft this year.

Logue, Clark, Bowes, Tucker.
Cadman, Busslinger, Harvey.

All its missing is a small forward and - financials aside - its a perfect haul for where we are at.

I think Logue means we don't necessarily need Busslinger as much as we did a couple months ago.

 

[Le Grille]

If we held pick 1 I think we would draft with it, no point handing Ashcroft 10k for nothing.

As for who we take I'm none the wiser, on a given day it could be any of Cadman, Wardlaw or Sheezel IMO and even then I can't rule out Tsatas. Full blanket on four.

Bollocks, bid and make brissy pay full whack 10k is irrelevant in a good contract

 

[Harris 10]

roos 10 what’s the update with Clark?

 

[roos 10]

roos 10 what’s the update with Clark?

Nothing at the moment mate

 

[roos_fanatic08]

If the Bowes deal goes through to Geelong, then I would want Geelong and Gold Coast's recent trading history to be investigated by the AFL.

It would essentially be:
2019: Geelong traded pick 27 for pick 15 and pick 67.
2020: Geelong traded pick 52 for pick 27
2022: Geelong traded pick ~20 for pick 7 and Bowes

100%. Basically one of the most successful sides in the last 15 years hugely benefitting from the AFL's GC draft compensation

 

[Rooboys Rool]

Has there been anything to say Bowes actually wants out of GC at all?

This is the same club that floated a contracted Macpherson last year only to find he had no interest in leaving.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Has there been anything to say Bowes actually wants out of GC at all?

This is the same club that floated a contracted Macpherson last year only to find he had no interest in leaving.

Yeah it was mentioned in the original articles that he would be happy to leave for more oppurtunities.

 

[PokerRoo]

I think people need to remember that you are not getting Bowes and 7 for nothing going the other way. GC will want something in next years draft. If we offered either of our future 2nd, yes, we get 7 this year, but then we are most likely out of the second round next year if we also bring in logue, tucker, clark and anyone else we are looking at.

List spots also come into it.

Personally I would be happy at not having a second rounder next year, but not sure I could stand all the sooking for a whole year when people look at our draft hand and complain we have pick x in the first round and nothing until the 40s conveniently ignoring all the players we brought in with those picks