List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

AFL Draft - AFL.com.au

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Spoiler: Key dates

AFL Trade Period Key Dates - AFL.com.au

When does Free Agency begin? How long does the Trade Period go for? Find out on AFL.com.au.

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[giantroo]

AFL Journalist Cal Twomey joins Kane and Lloydy to discuss the Jason Horne-Francis trade request (The Early Trade) - Day 6 (3/10/22)

Cal Twomey broke the big story about Jason Horne-Francis wanting to join Port Adelaide and discusses how the deal may get done.

player.whooshkaa.com

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

My respect for Cal has dropped and not because he’s the ‘newsmaker’. He is more gleeful about the deal than fireman Kane in making sure it happens.

 

[Midas]

AFL Journalist Cal Twomey joins Kane and Lloydy to discuss the Jason Horne-Francis trade request (The Early Trade) - Day 6 (3/10/22)

Cal Twomey broke the big story about Jason Horne-Francis wanting to join Port Adelaide and discusses how the deal may get done.

player.whooshkaa.com

Honestly, he is simply reporting this and hasn't potted us at all. When to great lengths to suggest that this might be the opportunity to get ducks in a row at the same time and cited examples of GWS & Adelaide. Let's not let our personal disappointment have us turn into desperados on a witch hunt because someone was given the information first.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Honestly, he is simply reporting this and hasn't potted us at all. When to great lengths to suggest that this might be the opportunity to get ducks in a row at the same time and cited examples of GWS & Adelaide. Let's not let our personal disappointment have us turn into desperados on a witch hunt because someone was given the information first.

Isn’t a witch hunt and has nothing to do with personal disappointment. The guy has been tweeting that we must take an offer all night and morning. Doesn’t scream impartial.

 

[Midas]

Isn’t a witch hunt. The guy has been cheerleading for a move and that we must take an offer on Twitter all night and morning. Screw him.

I agree with him. Take Pick 8 this year, the first round next year, and perhaps a developing player and move on. Great deal for us. We get three talented footballers whose character will not be questioned this time with Viney at the helm rather than Luff asking the questions. We get this year's best talent outside Ashcroft from our own pick, another exciting talent with pick 8, we will be in the bottom four next year (probably bottom again potentially) so will get a superstar there as well, and hopefully Port fall and finish in the bottom 8 as well which gives us a second early pick in a deep draft. Furthermore, the bullshit around will he won't he is gone and we have one less distraction while building our next contender. It's all about committing to a path and executing it. Remember the joy at watching Will Phil, Laz, Ford, and Powell in year one really get after it and the optimism that gave us at the start of this year. We can mirror that enthusiasm in 2023 now we have moved the big ego out of the way. This is a huge win for us, get the deal done.

 

[The acurate one]

That was the bare minimum offer and the wording suggests there will be some sweeteners on top. Not too bad honestly. I wonder if there's still an interest in Miles Bergman.

Yes would be similar to the Henry situation and be the feel good story we desire, the reuniting of two non brothers at North.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I agree with him. Take Pick 8 this year, the first round next year, and perhaps a developing player and move on. Great deal for us. We get three talented footballers whose character will not be questioned this time with Viney at the helm rather than Luff asking the questions. We get this year's best talent outside Ashcroft from our own pick, another exciting talent with pick 8, we will be in the bottom four next year (probably bottom again potentially) so will get a superstar there as well, and hopefully Port fall and finish in the bottom 8 as well which gives us a second early pick in a deep draft. Furthermore, the bullshit around will he won't he is gone and we have one less distraction while building our next contender. It's all about committing to a path and executing it. Remember the joy at watching Will Phil, Laz, Ford, and Powell in year one really get after it and the optimism that gave us at the start of this year. We can mirror that enthusiasm in 2023 now we have moved the big ego out of the way. This is a huge win for us, get the deal done.

I doubt that we’ll get that deal that involves a decent player because there won’t be a decent player that wants to leave. They’ll offer their mid-firsts and leverage the go-home factor. The Ashcroft bid will push that out. If we are getting a crap offer this year, I’d rather wait until next year to get the same thing.

 

[Disco Dew]

I’ve had my melt and time to think overnight, now I just want to get the best deal possible and move on.

Later Jase.

 

[Conundrum]

I doubt that we’ll get that deal that involves a decent player. They’ll offer their mid-firsts and leverage the go-home factor. If we are getting a crap offer this year, I’d rather wait until next year to get the same thing.

I have doubts JHF would even try to stay professional, I'm of the opinion you have to move these sorts of blokes on when they've clearly been thinking about leaving for a while, and carried on like JHF has. Holding him to the contract would just bring out more of the sulking and petulance, and would we want that around our young playing group?

 

[Midas]

I doubt that we’ll get that deal that involves a decent player. They’ll offer their mid-firsts and leverage the go-home factor. If we are getting a crap offer this year, I’d rather wait until next year to get the same thing.

Respectfully disagree. And listen to the media shit storm for another 12 months??? It's time for us to be united and clear on a path and if that means we get two mid-first-round picks then I could live with that. I am sure there will be more to it though, even a mediocre player or their pick 27. It's time for us to completely reset and it gives us that opportunity to do so. No south bound passengers on a north bound train.

 

[Shinboner1]

I have doubts JHF would even try to stay professional, I'm of the opinion you have to move these sorts of blokes on when they've clearly been thinking about leaving for a while, and carried on like JHF has. Holding him to the contract would just bring out more of the sulking and petulance, and would we want that around our young playing group?

Nah mate offload him now for maximum value.

 

[The acurate one]

Do we even have enough list spots if we get Bowes, 7, 8, a port player, Logue, Clark, Tucker, pick 1, Harvey?

Oh we do, out; JFH, Lazzaro, Mahony JZ, Walker, Turner, Young, Bonar ( Port) In, pick 8.

We just won the drafts right there!

 

[Sphynx]

To say the death ride next year is going to be spicy is an understatement. It will be downright venomous.

Port slowly climbing the ladder as historical campaigners with us.

White anted the likes of JHF, Motlop and Choppy.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Respectfully disagree. And listen to the media s**t storm for another 12 months??? It's time for us to be united and clear on a path and if that means we get two mid-first-round picks then I could live with that. I am sure there will be more to it though, even a mediocre player or their pick 27. It's time for us to completely reset and it gives us that opportunity to do so. No south bound passengers on a north bound train.

This isn’t just my stance though and in the end we are just offering up different possibilities. The club statement and the contract make it a distinct possibility that we aren’t selling if we are being offered a crap deal. Now Rawlings may wilt like he did on the CCJ trade, or get his back up with Viney over his shoulder, who knows.

I have doubts JHF would even try to stay professional, I'm of the opinion you have to move these sorts of blokes on when they've clearly been thinking about leaving for a while, and carried on like JHF has. Holding him to the contract would just bring out more of the sulking and petulance, and would we want that around our young playing group?

Would use the Papley example here, albeit, under different circumstances.

Tbh, I fully expect us to accept some variation of 2 picks, but I doubt it involves a decent player too.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Ashley B]

It will be a top 10 pick this yr and either a player or a future first rd pick imo. That will be the major thing we will receive there maybe some late swaps as well .

 

[75-77-96-99]

Oh we do, out; JFH, Lazzaro, Mahony JZ, Walker, Turner, Young, Bonar ( Port) In, pick 8.

We just won the drafts right there!

young was given a 1 year deal - bonar not going anywhere....

 

[Farthers]

H McKay signed until 2030 at Carltank.

 

[giantroo]

 

[The acurate one]

young was given a 1 year deal - bonar not going anywhere....

Yes my post was a tad tongue in cheek. And we did much better drafting shitmen, no other club wants them so they never leave. Just looks good in the player retention books.

The minute you start drafting talented footballers you're at risk of losing them to elsewhere.

 

[speedy]

Its a new day, so what are we getting today good news or bad news?

 

[Disco Dew]

Visy doing the lords work

 

[Themanbun]

Honestly, this news helps us solve our million midfielders conundrum. Life goes on and it may work out better for us.

 

[Ligma]

Jesus Harry McKay

10

Harry Mckay

Age

27

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

D

6.6

1star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.0

5star

7 year extension

 

[Disco Dew]

bad news?