List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread III

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: 2022 Draft Pick Order

AFL Draft - AFL.com.au

Australian Football League. All the latest AFL news, video, results and information

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Pick Order

Spoiler: Key dates

AFL Trade Period Key Dates - AFL.com.au

When does Free Agency begin? How long does the Trade Period go for? Find out on AFL.com.au.

www.afl.com.au

Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[Shinboner1]

Is there any backstory on Dawson and whether he can play CHF? Even just as depth.

I really liked the way that he played last year.

Kallan Dawson?
He's a defender mate.
A bloody good one at that.

 

[JGreezy]

Kallan Dawson?
He's a defender mate.
A bloody good one at that.

Yes, I know. But I'm wondering if he can do both.

If we are playing Logue, McKay, Corr and we have injuries up forward, then the ability for Dawson to play key forward role would be useful.

 

[archereleven]

In the end it was coz we did not let X go there the year before

They could of asked for him again. We obviously did them a favour if they weren't keen on recruiting him during the trade period fir a second time.

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[Shinboner1]

Yes, I know. But I'm wondering if he can do both.

If we are playing Logue, McKay, Corr and we have injuries up forward, then the ability for Dawson to play key forward role would be useful.

Too skinny imo.
Great defender but will struggle up forward like a Darcy Moore does.

 

[Roos1991]

He wants to play with LDU so we need to sign him and McKay asap

Agree. Our two most important signings. If Clarko stays, LDU stays. With his brother signing a massive contract at the Blues, I would be concerned that Benny looks to join him at some point. Big signing and needs to get done early next year.

 

[marklovesbeer]

Agree. Our two most important signings. If Clarko stays, LDU stays. With his brother signing a massive contract at the Blues, I would be concerned that Benny looks to join him at some point. Big signing and needs to get done early next year.

I don’t think they want to play in the same team as each other.
Did I read that somewhere this year?

 

[Mogroos]

Alternate news story, bottom side and so called basket case has not had a single player outside a tampered loose unit, and I respect footy loose unit's, request a trade. This is unprecedented. To retain the talent of Thomas, Powell, Scott, Philips, Mckay, Ldu and we could keep going obviously shows the beginnings of a great culture, shinboner at its core. Set Jy as captain and our group of revenge filled non pampered little hard nuts will start rolling teams. We will love them like we raised them ourselves and they will love us for not abandoning them like a fair-weather, add your multiple teams supporter here. We will cry Ron Casey's tears when we succeed, not purely because of the win, but because we will know how deeply amd hard we stuck it right freaking up em.

 

[RossHenshaw]

Too skinny imo.
Great defender but will struggle up forward like a Darcy Moore does.

Larkey is skinny too & he effectively plays forward too .
Dawson prob worth a try forward at some point . There’s been a few good defenders in the past turn into a reasonable forward …. Craig Scholl for us & in recent times the best I can remember being Naughton for the dogs

 

[joegreen]

Good article explaining the mega deal. Paints Brady as the architect and also calls out North's strong relationships in the industry.

The art of the deal: how the AFL’s mega trade took shape

It involved two No.1 picks, two top-five picks, a premiership player and a future first-rounder. Plus it involved four states. The deal that started with Jason Horne-Francis’ request for a trade was the mega-trade to beat all others. Here’s the inside story.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Shinboner1]

Larkey is skinny too & he effectively plays forward too .
Dawson prob worth a try forward at some point . There’s been a few good defenders in the past turn into a reasonable forward …. Craig Scholl for us & in recent times the best I can remember being Naughton for the dogs

Larkey isn't skinny.
Comben is skinny

 

[shinboner magic]

Good article explaining the mega deal. Paints Brady as the architect and also calls out North's strong relationships in the industry.

The art of the deal: how the AFL’s mega trade took shape

It involved two No.1 picks, two top-five picks, a premiership player and a future first-rounder. Plus it involved four states. The deal that started with Jason Horne-Francis’ request for a trade was the mega-trade to beat all others. Here’s the inside story.

www.theage.com.au

Interesting but is if gws wasn’t going for Cadman- Brady wouldn’t of done the deal.
Must really want sheezel/ wardlaw hopefully

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Interesting but is if gws wasn’t going for Cadman- Brady wouldn’t of done the deal.
Must really want sheezel/ wardlaw hopefully

Good read and to me that was the news - Cadman wasn’t in our top three.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Good article explaining the mega deal. Paints Brady as the architect and also calls out North's strong relationships in the industry.

The art of the deal: how the AFL’s mega trade took shape

It involved two No.1 picks, two top-five picks, a premiership player and a future first-rounder. Plus it involved four states. The deal that started with Jason Horne-Francis’ request for a trade was the mega-trade to beat all others. Here’s the inside story.

www.theage.com.au

It’s a good article but it’s frogshit that Rawlings was doing all the heavy lifting for Port and GWS. They both wanted what we selling, they should have been the ones coming to us.

 

[the flying ham]

Good article explaining the mega deal. Paints Brady as the architect and also calls out North's strong relationships in the industry.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...trade-took-shape-20221012-p5bp8n.html[/URLURL

who'd have thought dealing amicably with clubs would have its benefits

 

[the flying ham]

It’s a good article but it’s frogshit that Rawlings was doing all the heavy lifting for Port and GWS. They both wanted what we selling, they should have been the ones coming to us.

In this instance the outcome is more important than the process RF. Good on him for getting a deal of that magnitude over the line. We also had some outcomes we wanted, and seemingly achieved them

 

[Its a Process]

Interesting but is if gws wasn’t going for Cadman- Brady wouldn’t of done the deal.
Must really want sheezel/ wardlaw hopefully

Surely everyone realised that. It was pretty darn obvious.

 

[Mordecai]

Good article explaining the mega deal. Paints Brady as the architect and also calls out North's strong relationships in the industry.

The art of the deal: how the AFL’s mega trade took shape

It involved two No.1 picks, two top-five picks, a premiership player and a future first-rounder. Plus it involved four states. The deal that started with Jason Horne-Francis’ request for a trade was the mega-trade to beat all others. Here’s the inside story.

www.theage.com.au

There's really no difference between 1 and 3 given who gws will take.
Means the future first and 2 was compensation for jhf which is fine.

 

[Masked Avenger]

Good article explaining the mega deal. Paints Brady as the architect and also calls out North's strong relationships in the industry.

The art of the deal: how the AFL’s mega trade took shape

It involved two No.1 picks, two top-five picks, a premiership player and a future first-rounder. Plus it involved four states. The deal that started with Jason Horne-Francis’ request for a trade was the mega-trade to beat all others. Here’s the inside story.

www.theage.com.au

If this is accurate, two things stand out to me:

1 Rawlings' capacity to get that deal done knowing that coming away with Port's original offer or having Horne-Francis stay in 2023 was a disaster for the Club.

2 The arrogance of Port who knew Horne-Francis was worth more than what they offered but point blank refused to cough up a quality player.

What goes around comes around. Bookmark it.

 

[Its a Process]

If this is accurate, two things stand out to me:

1 Rawlings' capacity to get that deal done knowing that coming away with Port's original offer or having Horne-Francis stay in 2023 was a disaster for the Club.

2 The arrogance of Port who knew Horne-Francis was worth more than what they offered but point blank refused to cough up a quality player.

What goes around comes around. Bookmark it.

This, this and this again.

It's a small industry and once you are marked negatively it's hard to come out of. Why do the Swans and Cats seemingly always do decent deals for the right players who generally improve once there. It's no coincidence, they are fair to deal with and deals happen in good faith.

Can't wait for next season to see Port start 2-6 and they start to get jittery about Kenny. Never look forward to death riding a team more.

 

[Twangler]

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...l-s-mega-trade-took-shape-20221012-p5bp8n.htm

[QUOTE="joegreen, post: 77123464, member: 38482"] [/QUOTE]

Confirms that Brady is much more shrewd and competent than he is given credit for. Did the best he could in a crappy situation for the club. CCJ deal wasn’t great in hindsight but our strategy of dealing in good faith has already benefited us this year and hopefully will continue to do so in years to come.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

In this instance the outcome is more important than the process RF. Good on him for getting a deal of that magnitude over the line. We also had some outcomes we wanted, and seemingly achieved them

I agree mate, and props to Rawlings (who I’ve been very critical of in the past). It’s just the arrogance of Port throughout this whole process that really irritated me.

 

[Farthers]

Crows announce list changes

The trio has been informed their contracts will not be renewed

www.afc.com.au

James Rowe, Ben Davis

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Ben Davis

Age

28

Ht

189cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.5

1star

HB

2.5

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

3star

MG

169.0

3star

D

5.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.0

3star

MG

169.0

3star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.5

4star

MG

169.0

3star

and Brett Turner delisted.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

James Rowe delisted by the Crows. They have stacks of small forward options now with Rankine, Rachele and McAdam.

Rowe kicked 27 goals across 36 games in 2 years.

I wouldn’t be against it for a small forward stop gap option for a year or two.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Bulldogs still yet to delist anyone on either senior or rookie list

Brought in 2 players lost 4

 

[archereleven]

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...l-s-mega-trade-took-shape-20221012-p5bp8n.htm

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Confirms that Brady is much more shrewd and competent than he is given credit for. Did the best he could in a crappy situation for the club. CCJ deal wasn’t great in hindsight but our strategy of dealing in good faith has already benefited us this year and hopefully will continue to do so in years to come.

Not sure there is any such confirmation at this point. The fact is, he was list boss at Wet Toast and they have had a stunning fall from grace. He was then employed by NM and we havnt gotten off the bottom of the ladder.

The only confirmation will be when we start to rise and when we have more kpfs than Larkey and Chom - which we don't at this point in time...

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