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Adelaide are a big bodied side with no run. Too much time on the weights bench.

They spent their tickets in the third, went 5.8 v 1.1 instead of a positive so instead of trying to hold onto slender and ping pong, they just had to keep pushing until eventually they broke.
 

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I'd take 2 points over 0 every day of the week.

I thought it was over before the siren, too. I wonder how the AFL will justify it.

Umpire was on film, they'll back him in 100%.

Question is will they get out of WA in one piece?
 

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I'd take 2 points over 0 every day of the week.

I thought it was over before the siren, too. I wonder how the AFL will justify it.
Doesnt really matter anyway, rules say that any frees that should be paid due to actions before the siren can be paid after it. Umpires tore up the rule book on that one.
 
AFL backed ump, gave handy dandy flow chart to state as such.

Problem being, their own video on their site has the ball landing in play at 0:00 and given the between frames for that second you have the ball going out of bounds and boundary umpire signalling. Field umpire is not sited for another 8 seconds.

So flow chart contradicts that vision.

This soup is nice.
 
AFL backed ump, gave handy dandy flow chart to state as such.

Problem being, their own video on their site has the ball landing in play at 0:00 and given the between frames for that second you have the ball going out of bounds and boundary umpire signalling. Field umpire is not sited for another 8 seconds.

So flow chart contradicts that vision.

This soup is nice.
The AFL released another video with a different audio feed, that shows the siren clearly going before the ball went over the line.

It's strange that the siren sounds earlier in the AFL ARC release, than it does on the broadcast. Wouldn't surprise me if the AFL doctored it so they didn't have to admit the decision was wrong.
 
The AFL released another video with a different audio feed, that shows the siren clearly going before the ball went over the line.

It's strange that the siren sounds earlier in the AFL ARC release, than it does on the broadcast. Wouldn't surprise me if the AFL doctored it so they didn't have to admit the decision was wrong.

Siren doesn't matter to end of quarter, only when field or emergency hears it and signals ends that quarter. Them chatting about it also doesn't matter as signalling is clear in documentation.

That's why the soup is nice, it's all on the field umpires actions.
 

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The AFL released another video with a different audio feed, that shows the siren clearly going before the ball went over the line.

It's strange that the siren sounds earlier in the AFL ARC release, than it does on the broadcast. Wouldn't surprise me if the AFL doctored it so they didn't have to admit the decision was wrong.

Why is it that the North players only start celebrating about 1 second after the ball is over the line though???
 
Siren doesn't matter to end of quarter, only when field or emergency hears it and signals ends that quarter. Them chatting about it also doesn't matter as signalling is clear in documentation.

That's why the soup is nice, it's all on the field umpires actions.
10.5 END OF QUARTER
(a) The end of a quarter occurs when any field Umpire or emergency Umpire first hears the siren sounded by the Timekeepers to signal the end of a quarter.
The field Umpire shall acknowledge the siren and bring play to an end by blowing a whistle and holding both arms above their head.
(b) For the avoidance of doubt, if immediately before hearing the siren to end a quarter, a field Umpire is of the opinion that a Player should be awarded a Free Kick or a Mark, the field Umpire shall signal that play has come to an end and then award the Free Kick or Mark to the Player. A Free Kick will not be awarded where the football has been kicked and, after the field Umpire has heard the siren, lands Out of Bounds On the Full.

The quarter is ended when the siren sounds and is heard by the umpire, the quarter ends at that moment - not when they signal it.
 
The quarter is ended when the siren sounds and is heard by the umpire, the quarter ends at that moment - not when they signal it.

10.5 END OF QUARTER
(a) The end of a quarter occurs when any field Umpire or emergency Umpire first hears the siren sounded by the Timekeepers to signal the end of a quarter.
The field Umpire shall acknowledge the siren and bring play to an end by blowing a whistle and holding both arms above their head.

Bolded the part for you.

Timekeeper signals.
Umpire hears.
Umpire signals.

It's a wording thing, the players do not know if an umpire has heard the siren unless they signal, this is also why the boundary umpire signalled OOB in accordance with their job. The disconnect is that the bolded signal is 8 seconds after the siren has started sounding. This is also why in the sirengate the AFL had to rule the ending since the field umpires did not hear the siren and thus did not end the quarter as they did not signal regardless of what the siren was doing.
 
What's with these Hawthorn jumpers? Giving me bad brisbane bears vibes.

1980s ammos vibes.

Joel Amartey is going alright 3 goals already. Logan Spud McDonald looking like Plugger too.
 
Weren't we in the mix to recruit Amartey? He would be handy as a ruck/forward to partner with Marshall and would be cheaper than Tom De Koning.
 
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