List Mgmt. 2023 List Management thread - Pt2 Now With Added Wailing & Gnashing of Teeth

[Lore]

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Order

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Order, aka Future Picks

Spoiler: Blue Tick Rumours

 

[One_Wing]

I said Brodie would be peel this year and most lost their minds..

Reckon he’s done as a FWD and Freddy better finds some consistency.

Good for you, Brodie didn't finish top 10 in the doig.

 

[Joao]

Honestly though, the cost on trading up / into the top 5 in the draft though starts to make it all muddy. Like, we could literally not get pick 1 or 2 this year with what we paid for Jackson and we paid an absolutely stupid amount. How does that make sense, how is it cheaper to bring in guaranteed elite young talent than an untried draftee.

Sure, prioritise the draft, but when you think you have a core, it's cheaper to bring in superstars if you can convince them to join then drafting them

Yes I do think Jackson is the perfect exception as above, purely because we didn't have to totally **** the salary cap to get him to come.

Contrast with what we'd have to have offered Naughton for example.

 

[FD2646]

To hear walls say we are after dangerous forwards, are the words I’ve been longing to hear.

I just happened to be watching Jack Delean highlights on YouTube last night....hope Walls and the recruitment team have been keeping an eye on him.

 

[Tonga Bob]

Also, in light of that offer to Naughton, can you imagine what the deal that successfully lures McDonald next year would look like? Shudder at the thought.

Just wait for what's gonna get dangled in front of Amiss in the next couple of years.

 

[Joao]

I just happened to be watching Jack Delean highlights on YouTube last night....hope Walls and the recruitment team have been keeping an eye on him.

There are a few blokes in the 15-40 range that have some tricks.

 

[Joao]

Just wait for what's gonna get dangled in front of Amiss in the next couple of years.

He's going to get $2m offers towards the end of his current contract.

Whatever we are paying him, it's going to be a bargain in 2027-2029. Hope we extend him for life in 2026 or similar.

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

Apparently the midfield is set, so someone is making the judgement that they are good enough already and we don't need more midfielders. I can't see it.

Those are 2 different questions though, right? Like I think on performances this season you can clearly see that the midfield isn't good enough yet. However, you look at the pieces: Brayshaw, Serong, Young, whatever we get from Brodie, Fyfe, Jaeger and Aish, and then young guns like Erasmus, Johnson, and a couple more speculative younger guys like Stanley and NOD. I think the pieces are there that we don't need another inside mid at least, especially given where we'll be picking from in the draft.

I don't love the wing talent in that group (becomes a bit better if we get Sharp), but if we can't make a good midfield out of that group then I'm looking at the coaching.

 

[ubiquitous226]

Snuffaluphagus Now I must admit I thought contract length was already factored in, maybe this increases the chance of Hamling triggering compensation after all..

LEAGUE TO PONDER COMPENSATION CHANGES​

THE AFL is set to assess whether it begins to consider the length of a contract in its free agency compensation formula.

Currently, while a restricted free agent must be offered a minimum two-year deal to trigger free agency compensation, the final length of the contract is not a factor in deciphering which band is triggered.

It means that, hypothetically, a three-year deal activates the same band of free agency compensation as a five-year contract provided the financial terms across the offer are the same.

But, while it will not be introduced ahead of this year's free agency window that opens on Friday, the League is pondering whether the length of a contract becomes part of its formula in deciding free agency compensation in the future.

The AFL currently has a detailed points-based formula that decides free agency compensation, which considers a range of factors including the financial terms of the deal and the age of the player moving clubs among others.

Clubs losing players are made aware of the compensation being offered with 24 hours of a restricted free agency deal being lodged, with that package then made official if a choice is made not to match a rival club's bid.

Clubs are not allowed to alter the terms of any restricted free agency deal throughout the life of its contract. – Riley Beveridge

 

[The Feeder Club]

Those are 2 different questions though, right? Like I think on performances this season you can clearly see that the midfield isn't good enough yet. However, you look at the pieces: Brayshaw, Serong, Young, whatever we get from Brodie, Fyfe, Jaeger and Aish, and then young guns like Erasmus, Johnson, and a couple more speculative younger guys like Stanley and NOD. I think the pieces are there that we don't need another inside mid at least, especially given where we'll be picking from in the draft.

I don't love the wing talent in that group (becomes a bit better if we get Sharp), but if we can't make a good midfield out of that group then I'm looking at the coaching.

I would agree we don't need a pure inside mid type as we hopefully have that covered. To compete for a flag though we need an explosive type of mid that can bust a game open, and for sure a better archetypal winger.
I hope O'Driscoll only stalled because of injury, him coming on could help us.

 

[Joao]

I've heard the Swans going to throw the 10 x 11 at Hammer

Pick 6 still in play.

 

[DragoDelph]

 

[ubiquitous226]

I've heard the Swans going to throw the 10 x 11 at Hammer

Pick 6 still in play.

10 months at $11k per month?

 

[DragoDelph]

This is a clever move by JL.

North or Geelong can't make an offer, if they can't find him.

Hoping we get a "where in the world" Sean Darcy episode

 

[A New Hope]

Our midfield will look a lot better with really dangerous forwards.

Haha you said that about the forwards as well but vise versa.

 

[malpaso]

Sorry folks, you'll all be devastated to learn that Mabior Chol has chosen the Hawks.

Dude just wants to go somewhere that he doesn't have to compete to hard to be in the 22

 

[Ge3ks]

Four years with a trigger for a 5th.

 

[DragoDelph]

Four years with a trigger for a 5th.

Everyone else turned them down so they got desperate.

How many years for Massimo I wonder?

 

[Taylor]

Haha you said that about the forwards as well but vise versa.

They will too. We need some natural development and both groups will make the other look better.

I think our midfield could make it very easy to be a forward, now we just need some forwards who make it look easy.

Watson makes it look easy

 

[Nickos66]

Is Henry likely to go on the 1st day of trade period? or the last day..

 

[Ge3ks]

Is Henry likely to go on the 1st day of trade period? or the last day..

Last. Minute.

 

[Retzlaff]

To hear walls say we are after dangerous forwards, are the words I’ve been longing to hear.

Mark Harvey always said we were dangerous

 

[freodog]

Last. Minute.

I wanna see Colon Young jogging, out of breath up and down the corridors in his Cowboy boots

 

[Dayts]

Bro how tf can you say that? Stanley hasn't played 5 games for us yet and Ras is only 19. Ras definitely needs to start showing more but let's wait until the end of next season before passing judgement.

On that, did Stanley not qualify for peel finals ?

 

[Docker82]

On that, did Stanley not qualify for peel finals ?

He was injured the game before.

Don't know the answer to your question but it's somewhat irrelevant as he wasn't available anyway.

 

[Vimal Anand]

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