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[Arr0w]

If TDK does leave, I would target UFA Flynn

 

[katmanblue]

As in $$$$ amount?

I don’t see Pitto being very sought after by other clubs, so even if the $$$ are low, it still seems unnecessary to me. Fish currently has a 4 year deal and now isn’t best 22, it’s a big risk for someone like Pitto and I see ruckman regularly available for not much outlay.

We don't know what our ruck situation is next year.

Maybe TDK has said he's going.

Maybe pitto had an alternate offer.

Maybe team has given up on Mirkov and/or decided Lemmey /HOK won't be ready for a while.

We don't know our salary cap situation or the renumeration of his contract or the contract terms.

Calling it irresponsible without more info seems a bit premature.

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[DangerousD]

The ins and outs this week were not too bad, but they make it clear to me, that we need KPD depth or upgrades. Weiters has been struggling, Gov was poor and Young was dropped, yet we didn’t have a single KPD to replace any of them.

Ive seen lots of posters say that key defenders are the least of our concerns and I just don’t get it. We have one single KPD on the list and he was a MSD pick who has struggled with injury.

I really hope Kemp can string together some games so we can see if he can play as an intercepting defender which will help.

Im not convinced by Young and if we had some more coverage I think Gov would have been rested as well, but here we are.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

How “significant rival interest” led to Marc Pittonet's four-year Carlton deal

Sam Edmund has moved to clear up some of the debate surrounding the four-year contract handed to Carlton ruckman Marc Pittonet.

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SkAC AuuStiN!!!!!!

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Barrass?

Analysing the trade value of West Coast's veterans

West Coast is about to enter a steep rebuild and will need all the draft capital they can get their hands on.

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[bradfisher14]

Barrass?

Analysing the trade value of West Coast's veterans

West Coast is about to enter a steep rebuild and will need all the draft capital they can get their hands on.

www.sen.com.au

Maybe for next year's first given our father son situation.

I would be hitting this year's draft as hard as possible with the picks we are likely to get via trades. Wouldn't be trading out any picks for this year's draft unless it's to get us more in return.

 

[Michael Jezz]

Laughable the 100's of post preaching for Dow. He has few Afl qualities. In tennis terms we are using a players ITF tournament form as a basis for inclusion on the ATP. He is not better than Hewett. If posters want to be constructive, call for the selection of Carrol who has more AFL qualities. The club would benefit from knowing whether jack is up to the level rather than cry for Dow who has had 66 games to proove himself

 

[Jeremias]

Laughable the 100's of post preaching for Dow. He has few Afl qualities. In tennis terms we are using a players ITF tournament form as a basis for inclusion on the ATP. He is not better than Hewett. If posters want to be constructive, call for the selection of Carrol who has more AFL qualities. The club would benefit from knowing whether jack is up to the level rather than cry for Dow who has had 66 games to proove himself

Carroll is injured. Why would anyone call for his selection in the senior team?

 

[Michael Jezz]

Pitto averages 7 games a season across his career and just over 10 games a year whilst at the Blues, to lock in a player like that for 4 years imo is irresponsible, a players form can change pretty quick and A player like Pitto doesn’t have to drop much form to become a liability.

Pitto is probably on 300 to 350k. He will be on our list as a number 1 or back up for at least the next 3 years. 4 years is not outrageous

 

[DangerousD]

Barrass?

Analysing the trade value of West Coast's veterans

West Coast is about to enter a steep rebuild and will need all the draft capital they can get their hands on.

www.sen.com.au

What a pointless analysis, no mention of contract status at all.

 

[Michael Jezz]

Carroll is injured. Why would anyone call for his selection in the senior team?

Carrol was selectable for most of this year. Put your effort in finding out whether players who have have played less than 10 games are worthwhile rather than Dow who has played 66 games and has virtually no AFL traits

 

[Jeremias]

Carrol was selectable for most of this year. Put your effort in finding out whether players who have have played less than 10 games are worthwhile rather than Dow who has played 66 games and has virtually no AFL traits

Why would it be constructive for anyone to call for his selection this week over Dow's?

At least Dow is available for selection.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

What a pointless analysis, no mention of contract status at all.

contract status means jack if the parties want to deal....

 

[Sector 7G]

Carrol was selectable for most of this year. Put your effort in finding out whether players who have have played less than 10 games are worthwhile rather than Dow who has played 66 games and has virtually no AFL traits

Dow has barely played 1s for 2 years and wasn't getting 40 possessions regularly before then.

 

[DangerousD]

contract status means jack if the parties want to deal....

Of course it does, the value of players changes depending on contract status.

Gaff is on about $900,000, Gov is on about $1M, Nic Nat by all reports is on big money.

The size of the players contracts makes them a lot less appealing and any picks WC would get would be a lot lower.

Cornes also suggests to get rid of Gov because he never plays, then says he should get a second rounder.

Gov is on $1M per year, his trade value is a lot lower than a second rounder because of his huge salary.

 

[Michael Jezz]

Why would it be constructive for anyone to call for his selection this week over Dow's?

At least Dow is available for selection.

My point is Dow is white noise in the context of the football club. Dow is a manifestation of why Carlton is poorly performed If you want your forum full of white noise, be my guest but if you want it to be a constructive force for improvement I suggest discussing players like Carrol, Kemp and Binns.

 

[Michael Jezz]

Dow has barely played 1s for 2 years and wasn't getting 40 possessions regularly before then.

Sorry Mate Dow played 2 games last year and was garbage. Think about it 66 opportunities to show everyone he can run both ways, tackle and kick.

 

[macky99]

Sorry Mate Dow played 2 games last year and was garbage. Think about it 66 opportunities to show everyone he can run both ways, tackle and kick.

At least your posting is consistent.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

I only saw him play last week for the first time, but would we give ronke a go? Looks fairly elusive through the middle pushing forward?

 

[Beyond Blue]

I only saw him play last week for the first time, but would we give ronke a go? Looks fairly elusive through the middle pushing forward?

Would be in the team tonight if he was on the list IMO.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Of course it does, the value of players changes depending on contract status.

Gaff is on about $900,000, Gov is on about $1M, Nic Nat by all reports is on big money.

The size of the players contracts makes them a lot less appealing and any picks WC would get would be a lot lower.

Cornes also suggests to get rid of Gov because he never plays, then says he should get a second rounder.

Gov is on $1M per year, his trade value is a lot lower than a second rounder because of his huge salary.

No.

You're conflating value and salary.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Might as well play Dow, we are getting 2 bits of f all at the moment for him, finals are done, we are completely cooked mentally.

May as well play Dow and see what happens, surely these paddle pop coaches aren’t that stubborn


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[The Bighouse]

Think we need to seriously consider offering both Cripps (leadership fail) & McKay (flake forward) up for trades.
TDK can go
Let McGovern **** off
Motlop back to WA (silly re-signing) + Fisher too & Acres to be given the flick.

Time to see who else can play.

Skills training, skills training, skills training.
Do not draft unskilled players.

 

[Blue1980]

Might as well play Dow, we are getting 2 bits of f all at the moment for him, finals are done, we are completely cooked mentally.

May as well play Dow and see what happens, surely these paddle pop coaches aren’t that stubborn


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Well with all our inside mids seemingly injured the wet dream of many will become a reality next week - a whole inside midfield setup around Dow!

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Is it too late to get in the race for Harley Reid?