List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread

[King Corey]

Edit: will update if ppl happy for this to sticky

Ok starting the hit list of names mentioned in any rumour as linked to us for 2023 trade period.

• Mac Andrew
• Hunter Clark
• Zac Fisher
• Sam Flanders
• Mitch Georgiades
• Liam Henry
• Dougal Howard
• Lewis Melican
• Jack Silvagni
• Dylan Stephens
• Adam Tomlinson

 

[Orange Peanut]

37 Harvey Hooper

Get him to debut in the same game as Cooper Harvey and invite Basil Z as guest commentator.

 

[DesertRoo]

Helping someone build a deck is a very good way to bond actually.

It’s actually quiet brilliant, you’ll get to figure a lot about a person doing some manual labour, especially when they’re not prepared for it.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Strange one.

Can't imagine he's scouting one of the Carlton guys, they aren't available until the end of the year and there will be plenty of vision of them. No one jumps out that played as a OOC priority.

You'd think he might be looking at a Port player, potentially for the MSD.

Ethan Phillips makes the most sense Tyreece Leiu probably the only one worth a look from Carlton VFL side.

 

[DesertRoo]

Ethan Phillips makes the most sense Tyreece Leiu probably the only one worth a look from Carlton VFL side.

Any small forwards of note? I think that’s our biggest area of need.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Any small forwards of note? I think that’s our biggest area of need.

I reckon we'd just wait till end of year to pick up nick watson in the draft

if you wanted a ready made one we could easily just pick up lowson from our vfl team

 

[DesertRoo]

I reckon we'd just wait till end of year to pick up nick watson in the draft

if you wanted a ready made one we could easily just pick up lowson from our vfl team

The draft is still a gamble, I’d rather pick up ready made with mid season on a six month contract and then cross the fingers for Mr Watson at years end, highlights wise he looks special.

Edit: I was just reading up on Lowson and Clarko picked the wrong kid to help him build his deck. Lowson would’ve done it in half the time and started on the sleepers for the garden bed.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Our boy hunter Clark

11

Hunter Clark

Age

26

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

with 26 touches will be very handy off a wing and rotating hbf also next year for us

Also I’d draft Lowson mid season

Ready made small forward that could make immediate impact and still be around for several years

us winning and clarko at the helm should help us attract elite players.

 

[Eggs11]

Lowson was clear BOG in the VFL yesterday

 

[SmallRoo]

Our boy hunter Clark with 26 touches will be very handy off a wing and rotating hbf also next year for us

Also I’d draft Lowson mid season

Ready made small forward that could make immediate impact and still be around for several years

us winning and clarko at the helm should help us attract elite players.

Wouldn’t be too confident. Has stated that this year has been like having a fresh start without having to leave the club.

 

[Harris 10]

Lowson was clear BOG in the VFL yesterday

He just knows football.

I really rate Schultz from Freo and I think he could impact a game just as much as him, if not more.

 

[hoffseason gains]

Wouldn’t be too confident. Has stated that this year has been like having a fresh start without having to leave the club.

I didn’t watch last nights Saints game; obviously it clashed with Norths. But from the game vs Freo, he looked pretty slow with his ball use in congestion pretty poor. Not sure if he’d be a net positive to our side off half back or wing (he wouldn’t / shouldn’t play inside mid for us).

 

[shinboner magic]

Not saying menzie is a worldbeater but not using our second pick in msd wasn’t the smartest thing.
Could of got a nippy small forward

 

[ohmygewd]

You can argue whether l've got the right positions for players - l gave Jack and Shiels the utility posi because l reckon Clarko swings them where he needs an experience voice.
I don't think we need any more Mids or Med-Forwards and the HB-Wingers could interchange with the Mids and Med-Forwards and Med-Defenders.
Look vulnerable at the Tall-Forwards which highlights the necessity for CCJ & Edwards to come on as Forward-Rucks.
We do look vulnerable at Tall-Defenders if McKay leaves or get multiple injuries.
Far to say we don't have any recognized small defenders and the small forwards aren't exactly setting the VFL let alone the AFL world on fire.

No	Name	Games	Age	Date of Birth	Height	Weight	Position	Draft
42	Kallan Dawson	4	24.08	22/07/1998	196​	89kg	Tall-Defender	No.2 Mid-Season 2021
19	Griffin Logue	66	24.11	13/04/1998	194​	98kg	Tall-Defender	No.8 National 2016
23	Ben McKay	52	25.03	24/12/1997	201​	99kg	Tall-Defender	No.21 National 2015
4	Aidan Corr	121	28.10	17/05/1994	195​	97kg	Tall-Defender	No.14 National 2012
	AVERAGE​	61​	25​		196.5​
34	Jackson Archer	3	20.02	9/01/2003	185​	75kg	Med-Defender	No.59 National 2021
27	Miller Bergman	3	20.02	25/01/2003	188​	70kg	Med-Defender	No.38 National 2021
17	Lachie Young	43	23.11	6/04/1999	189​	81kg	Med-Defender	No.6 Rookie 2018
16	Aiden Bonar	33	24.00	8/03/1999	188​	87kg	Med-Defender	No.11 National 2017
11	Luke McDonald	161	28.01	9/02/1995	189​	86kg	Med-Defender	No.8 National 2013
	AVERAGE​	49​	23​		187.8
31	Josh Goater	3	19.09	2/06/2003	190​	80kg	HB-Winger	No.22 National 2021
39	Flynn Perez	19	21.07	25/08/2001	188​	85kg	HB-Winger	No.35 National 2019
8	Bailey Scott	57	22.08	9/07/2000	186​	77kg	HB-Winger	No.49 National 2018
43	Aaron Hall	155	32.04	9/11/1990	185​	85kg	HB-Winger	No.7 Pre-Season 2011
	AVERAGE​	58.5​	23.57​		187.25
14	Liam Shiels	257	31.10	29/04/1991	183​	84kg	Utility	No.34 National 2008
7	Jack Ziebell	260	32.00	28/02/1991	188​	89kg	Utility	No.9 National 2008
	AVERAGE​	259​	32​		185.5
6	George Wardlaw	0	18.09	11/06/2004	182​	79kg	Midfield	No.4 National 2022
29	Will Phillips	17	20.10	22/05/2002	181​	80kg	Midfield	No.3 National 2020
35	Charlie Lazzaro	24	21.00	25/03/2002	179​	73kg	Midfield	No.36 National 2020
24	Tom Powell	33	21.00	2/03/2002	184​	75kg	Midfield	No.13 National 2020
26	Tarryn Thomas	57	23.00	25/03/2000	189​	76kg	Midfield	No.8 National 2018
9	Luke Davies-Uniacke	73	23.09	8/06/1999	188​	87kg	Midfield	No.4 National 2017
12	Jy Simpkin	118	25.00	5/03/1998	182​	77kg	Midfield	No.12 National 2016
13	Darcy Tucker	108	26.02	23/01/1997	185​	85kg	Midfield	No.27 National 2015
15	Daniel Howe	97	27.03	4/12/1995	193​	88kg	Midfield	No.31 National 2014
18	Hugh Greenwood	106	31.00	6/03/1992	191​	94kg	Midfield	No.48 Rookie 2015
10	Ben Cunnington	231	31.08	30/06/1991	185​	88kg	Midfield	No.5 National 2009
	AVERAGE​	79​	24​		185.36
3	Harry Sheezel	2	18.05	13/10/2004	185​	80kg	Med-Forward	No.3 National 2022
33	Brayden George	0	19.02	13/01/2004	187​	85kg	Med-Forward	No.26 National 2022
25	Paul Curtis	17	20.00	4/03/2003	185​	75kg	Med-Forward	No.35 National 2021
40	Eddie Ford	8	20.09	21/06/2002	189​	83kg	Med-Forward	No.56 National 2020
5	Curtis Taylor	54	22.11	6/04/2000	187​	78kg	Med-Forward	No.46 National 2018
2	Jaidyn Stephenson	91	24.02	15/01/1999	188​	75kg	Med-Forward	No.6 National 2017
44	Cameron Zurhaar	85	24.10	22/05/1998	189​	92kg	Med-Forward	No.11 Rookie 2016
	AVERAGE​	37​	21​		187.14
41	Blake Drury	0	18.04	1/11/2004	176​	73kg	Sml-Forward	No.1 Rookie 2022
37	Cooper Harvey	0	18.08	12/07/2004	180​	80kg	Sml-Forward	No.56 National 2022
36	Phoenix Spicer	6	21.01	30/01/2002	173​	64kg	Sml-Forward	No.42 National 2020
1	Jack Mahony	42	21.04	12/11/2001	178​	72kg	Sml-Forward	No.34 National 2019
28	Kayne Turner	120	27.02	31/12/1995	180​	71kg	Sml-Forward	No.25 Rookie 2013
	AVERAGE​	34​	21​		177.4
20	Nick Larkey	73	24.09	6/06/1998	198​	95kg	Tall-Forward	No.73 National 2016
30	Charlie Comben	4	21.08	20/07/2001	199​	84kg	Tall-Forward	No.31 National 2019
	AVERAGE​	39	23		198.5
21	Callum Coleman-Jones	19	29.09	13/06/1999	200​	105kg	Forward-Ruck	No.20 National 2017
32	Jacob Edwards	0	20.04	22/11/2002	202​	85kg	Forward-Ruck	No.1 Mid-Season 2020
	AVERAGE​	10​	25​		201
22	Todd Goldstein	296	34.08	1/07/1988	201​	103kg	Ruck	No.37 National 2006
38	Tristan Xerri	25	24.00	15/03/1999	201​	99kg	Ruck	No.72 National 2017
45	Hamish Free	0	24.08	23/07/1998	202​	103kg	Ruck	No.19 Rookie 2022
	AVERAGE​	107​	27​		201.33​

 

[hellas_johnny]

You can argue whether l've got the right positions for players - l gave Jack and Shiels the utility posi because l reckon Clarko swings them where he needs an experience voice.
I don't think we need any more Mids or Med-Forwards and the HB-Wingers could interchange with the Mids and Med-Forwards and Med-Defenders.
Look vulnerable at the Tall-Forwards which highlights the necessity for CCJ & Edwards to come on as Forward-Rucks.
We do look vulnerable at Tall-Defenders if McKay leaves or get multiple injuries.
Far to say we don't have any recognized small defenders and the small forwards aren't exactly setting the VFL let alone the AFL world on fire.

No	Name	Games	Age	Date of Birth	Height	Weight	Position	Draft
42	Kallan Dawson	4	24.08	22/07/1998	196​	89kg	Tall-Defender	No.2 Mid-Season 2021
19	Griffin Logue	66	24.11	13/04/1998	194​	98kg	Tall-Defender	No.8 National 2016
23	Ben McKay	52	25.03	24/12/1997	201​	99kg	Tall-Defender	No.21 National 2015
4	Aidan Corr	121	28.10	17/05/1994	195​	97kg	Tall-Defender	No.14 National 2012
	AVERAGE​	61​	25​		​ 196.5​
34	Jackson Archer	3	20.02	9/01/2003	185​	75kg	Med-Defender	No.59 National 2021
27	Miller Bergman	3	20.02	25/01/2003	188​	70kg	Med-Defender	No.38 National 2021
17	Lachie Young	43	23.11	6/04/1999	189​	81kg	Med-Defender	No.6 Rookie 2018
16	Aiden Bonar	33	24.00	8/03/1999	188​	87kg	Med-Defender	No.11 National 2017
11	Luke McDonald	161	28.01	9/02/1995	189​	86kg	Med-Defender	No.8 National 2013
	AVERAGE​	49​	23​		187.8
31	Josh Goater	3	19.09	2/06/2003	190​	80kg	HB-Winger	No.22 National 2021
39	Flynn Perez	19	21.07	25/08/2001	188​	85kg	HB-Winger	No.35 National 2019
8	Bailey Scott	57	22.08	9/07/2000	186​	77kg	HB-Winger	No.49 National 2018
43	Aaron Hall	155	32.04	9/11/1990	185​	85kg	HB-Winger	No.7 Pre-Season 2011
	AVERAGE​	58.5​	23.57​		187.25
14	Liam Shiels	257	31.10	29/04/1991	183​	84kg	Utility	No.34 National 2008
7	Jack Ziebell	260	32.00	28/02/1991	188​	89kg	Utility	No.9 National 2008
	AVERAGE​	259​	32​		185.5
6	George Wardlaw	0	18.09	11/06/2004	182​	79kg	Midfield	No.4 National 2022
29	Will Phillips	17	20.10	22/05/2002	181​	80kg	Midfield	No.3 National 2020
35	Charlie Lazzaro	24	21.00	25/03/2002	179​	73kg	Midfield	No.36 National 2020
24	Tom Powell	33	21.00	2/03/2002	184​	75kg	Midfield	No.13 National 2020
26	Tarryn Thomas	57	23.00	25/03/2000	189​	76kg	Midfield	No.8 National 2018
9	Luke Davies-Uniacke	73	23.09	8/06/1999	188​	87kg	Midfield	No.4 National 2017
12	Jy Simpkin	118	25.00	5/03/1998	182​	77kg	Midfield	No.12 National 2016
13	Darcy Tucker	108	26.02	23/01/1997	185​	85kg	Midfield	No.27 National 2015
15	Daniel Howe	97	27.03	4/12/1995	193​	88kg	Midfield	No.31 National 2014
18	Hugh Greenwood	106	31.00	6/03/1992	191​	94kg	Midfield	No.48 Rookie 2015
10	Ben Cunnington	231	31.08	30/06/1991	185​	88kg	Midfield	No.5 National 2009
	AVERAGE​	79​	24​		185.36
3	Harry Sheezel	2	18.05	13/10/2004	185​	80kg	Med-Forward	No.3 National 2022
33	Brayden George	0	19.02	13/01/2004	187​	85kg	Med-Forward	No.26 National 2022
25	Paul Curtis	17	20.00	4/03/2003	185​	75kg	Med-Forward	No.35 National 2021
40	Eddie Ford	8	20.09	21/06/2002	189​	83kg	Med-Forward	No.56 National 2020
5	Curtis Taylor	54	22.11	6/04/2000	187​	78kg	Med-Forward	No.46 National 2018
2	Jaidyn Stephenson	91	24.02	15/01/1999	188​	75kg	Med-Forward	No.6 National 2017
44	Cameron Zurhaar	85	24.10	22/05/1998	189​	92kg	Med-Forward	No.11 Rookie 2016
	AVERAGE​	37​	21​		187.14
41	Blake Drury	0	18.04	1/11/2004	176​	73kg	Sml-Forward	No.1 Rookie 2022
37	Cooper Harvey	0	18.08	12/07/2004	180​	80kg	Sml-Forward	No.56 National 2022
36	Phoenix Spicer	6	21.01	30/01/2002	173​	64kg	Sml-Forward	No.42 National 2020
1	Jack Mahony	42	21.04	12/11/2001	178​	72kg	Sml-Forward	No.34 National 2019
28	Kayne Turner	120	27.02	31/12/1995	180​	71kg	Sml-Forward	No.25 Rookie 2013
	AVERAGE​	34​	21​		177.4
20	Nick Larkey	73	24.09	6/06/1998	198​	95kg	Tall-Forward	No.73 National 2016
30	Charlie Comben	4	21.08	20/07/2001	199​	84kg	Tall-Forward	No.31 National 2019
	AVERAGE​	39	23		198.5
21	Callum Coleman-Jones	19	29.09	13/06/1999	200​	105kg	Forward-Ruck	No.20 National 2017
32	Jacob Edwards	0	20.04	22/11/2002	202​	85kg	Forward-Ruck	No.1 Mid-Season 2020
	AVERAGE​	10​	25​		201
22	Todd Goldstein	296	34.08	1/07/1988	201​	103kg	Ruck	No.37 National 2006
38	Tristan Xerri	25	24.00	15/03/1999	201​	99kg	Ruck	No.72 National 2017
45	Hamish Free	0	24.08	23/07/1998	202​	103kg	Ruck	No.19 Rookie 2022
	AVERAGE​	107​	27​		201.33​

nice analysis however of this list id have archer in the small defender category, drury also probably belongs there as well as hes played all pre season down back

 

[Sphynx]

Our boy hunter Clark with 26 touches will be very handy off a wing and rotating hbf also next year for us

Also I’d draft Lowson mid season

Ready made small forward that could make immediate impact and still be around for several years

us winning and clarko at the helm should help us attract elite players.

I reckon that race is run.

Saints have turned over a new leaf and Ross has always been a players coach, players who have played under him, love him.

Ontop of which, St Kilda will want Ports R1 pick, which I think will be better invested in a specialist position at the draft.

If we are targeting anyone, it should probably be Shaun Darcy, given there already seems to be some game time issues there with him and Jackson.

 

[Shinboner1]

I reckon that race is run.

Saints have turned over a new leaf and Ross has always been a players coach, players who have played under him, love him.

Ontop of which, St Kilda will want Ports R1 pick, which I think will be better invested in a specialist position at the draft.

I'd be better offering it for the next jordan dawson or lachie neale.

 

[Sphynx]

I'd be better offering it for the next jordan dawson or lachie neale.

Sean Darcy.

Can't imagine he would be thrilled playing forward for bunches of games for the foreseeable future.

He grew up in Cobden as well, we all know who the mayor of Cobden is......

 

[tales129]

This may sound odd, but I’d only be looking at free agents.

You can’t afford to throw draft capital away - we see the hole that just once trading away a first rounder can bring.

Now we have 4 in 2 years. Keep them all, build and build. We’ve got some pretty ****ing pivotal pieces in sheezel LDU, Larkey.

Let’s find the role players that make you a premiership side.

Can already see that freo are going to be in pain after offering up so much for Jackson.

We’ve got a nice core, however it’s not finished and we need to keep adding extra

 

[Sphynx]

This may sound odd, but I’d only be looking at free agents.

You can’t afford to throw draft capital away - we see the hole that just once trading away a first rounder can bring.

Now we have 4 in 2 years. Keep them all, build and build. We’ve got some pretty ******* pivotal pieces in sheezel LDU, Larkey.

Let’s find the role players that make you a premiership side.

Can already see that freo are going to be in pain after offering up so much for Jackson.

We’ve got a nice core, however it’s not finished and we need to keep adding extra

I agree with you, it was only really a discussion point.

I 100% think we should be going to the draft, I'm also of the opinion this is the year we trade our future R1 into the 23' draft.

If we hit this draft with 3 picks in the 5-12, we probably complete the rebuild.

Especially with a mix of 3 of the likes of A.Reid, Caddy, Philactides, Watson, McKercher. KPP's, small forwards, damaging half backs/wings. All specialist roles that we can afford to do given what we have invested in the midfield to date.

Start focusing on the FA and mature markets from 2024 onwards.

 

[The Nostradamus]

This may sound odd, but I’d only be looking at free agents.

You can’t afford to throw draft capital away - we see the hole that just once trading away a first rounder can bring.

Now we have 4 in 2 years. Keep them all, build and build. We’ve got some pretty ******* pivotal pieces in sheezel LDU, Larkey.

Let’s find the role players that make you a premiership side.

Can already see that freo are going to be in pain after offering up so much for Jackson.

We’ve got a nice core, however it’s not finished and we need to keep adding extra

im happy to throw a future second rounder at hunter clark who the saints have no leverage with this year

and focus on free agents like Himmelberg and gresham

 

[Sphynx]

I notice Jiath could be on the chopping block this week for the Hawks, with their board having him as a consistent one they want out to make a statement.

Now, that is a player I would be very willing to have a look at with some draft currency at the end of the year if he gets disgruntled during this year.

No idea of his relationship with Clarko, but you would think it couldn't hurt....

 

[nelroo]

I notice Jiath could be on the chopping block this week for the Hawks, with their board having him as a consistent one they want out to make a statement.

Now, that is a player I would be very willing to have a look at with some draft currency at the end of the year if he gets disgruntled during this year.

No idea of his relationship with Clarko, but you would think it couldn't hurt....

I’d love him at the Roos! Absolute weapon off half back.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Sean Darcy.

Can't imagine he would be thrilled playing forward for bunches of games for the foreseeable future.

He grew up in Cobden as well, we all know who the mayor of Cobden is......

I'd happily ship off one of CCJ or Xerri if it meant we could target Darcy. He was tracking to be a top 5 ruck in the comp last year and the Jackson pairing obviously isn't working well at the moment.

 

[RoovolverUpstairs]

I can't believe we passed on Jye Menzie in the MSD when we needed a small forward with scoring power, what an absolute freebie. Has looked the goods for the bombers up forward and already leapfrogged Snelling on the depth chart.

 

[Themanbun]

I can't believe we passed on Jye Menzie in the MSD when we needed a small forward with scoring power, what an absolute freebie. Has looked the goods for the bombers up forward and already leapfrogged Snelling on the depth chart.

Lowson looking the goods at VFL level as well