Resource 2024 AFL Draft discussion thread (Wed Nov 20 to Fri Nov 22)

[Jack McKraken]

Ill take someone who can get the ball and kick straight over someone who can run a good 2km time trial anyday and also has a burst of speed and knows when to lead , footy iq shits over that other crap

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Agree. But not if they can’t actually compete at the level because they are too fcked to run! They can’t just pick and choose when to go, not in the modern game.

 

[Jack McKraken]

Sure, but the assertion from combine sceptics always seems to be that Lockett, at the condition he was throughout his career, would still dominate. He absolutely wouldn't. He's a hell of a lot fitter now than when he was playing.

Then there’s the thuggery!

 

[Mutineer]

Fair enough..... The national combine is the be all and end all.

Anyone care to discuss why we took Charlie Edwards at pick 21??? I mean this spud wasnt invited to the National Combine even though he had an amazing 2km time trial of 6:24 (only 13 seconds behind NED!).

Struggling to understanding the reasoning that all these draft experts have. I think the answer is that they know jack sh.......t, but waiting to confirm.

I shouldn't answer this given you'll come back at me no doubt.

The reason Edwards didn't get an invite to the National Combine is because he'd done nothing really significant playing mostly forward in the run up to the Nationals.

Only when the Sandringham Dragons top midfielders were required by Vic Metro for the Nationals did he get an extended run in the midfield and started to come more on the club recruiters radars, so not thought enough of to even make the VM preseason squad at the time nor the trimmed Nationals squad in the run up to the Nationals later let alone the final VM Nationals team. Hence he only got the state Combine invite despite Twomey and others calling for him to be a late addition.. The quintessential draft bolter.

 

[Amacca 23]

Agree. But not if they can’t actually compete at the level because they are too fcked to run! They can’t just pick and choose when to go, not in the modern game.

The kids not even 18 yet im sure once in the system full time he will be fine

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[1970crow]

We absolutely would regardless of cost. If another team grabbed the one father son we have been talking up for the past 3 years we would absolutely have to match.

Even if we don't think he is worth it - it is 100% worth it from a PR perspective.

If Geelong reached at 17, Sydney at 19, Richmond at 20 - you don't think we would match?

Doubtful, n9 doubt we'd reach to an extent, but if we have him at 40 odd on our talent order and he's bid at 20, I highly doubt they'd select him.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Doubtful, n9 doubt we'd reach to an extent, but if we have him at 40 odd on our talent order and he's bid at 20, I highly doubt they'd select him.

Can’t see us sacrificing next years draft hand at all for him

But don’t think we will need to as we will take him ourselves late or rookie

 

[Amacca 23]

Agree. But not if they can’t actually compete at the level because they are too fcked to run! They can’t just pick and choose when to go, not in the modern game.

Not saying you dont need to be fit, but you dont need to be able to run 2km in 7 mins

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[1970crow]

Fair enough..... The national combine is the be all and end all.

Anyone care to discuss why we took Charlie Edwards at pick 21??? I mean this spud wasnt invited to the National Combine even though he had an amazing 2km time trial of 6:24 (only 13 seconds behind NED!).

Struggling to understanding the reasoning that all these draft experts have. I think the answer is that they know jack sh.......t, but waiting to confirm.

I don't think the combine is be all and end all, a club tied player predicted to go 30+ is a very unlikely invitee in my opinion. Fattening up is somewhat of a concern though, but not getting invited to national combine isn't important as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Not saying you dont need to be fit, but you dont need to be able to run 2km in 7 mins

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thats not really the argument though

 

[Scorpus]

It is interesting though that yet another SA prospect that was highly touted before their draft year slides out to be almost not a main draft pick

Even if he wasn't tanking the last 6 months like a good boy, it didn't sound like he'd be a first round pick.

Same last year with Ashton Moir. And many others before that.

It's not great when the talent we rely on most seems to hit a development wall before they even reach 18

 

[1990crow]

You were saying he could go top 3 not long ago and now he has an attitude problem.

If ever there was an advertisement for it's never as bad as you think and it's never as good as you think...

That was 15-16 months ago. Since then he's stacked on 10kg and can't run

 

[jbanger]

As an aside, saw Kornes running along the espy this morning with the rig out, very happy with himself

I run past him on the uni loop often (he goes clockwise, I run anti clockwise). He looks like a pre pubescent child with his shirt off. I have to restarian myself not to do the old Samoan sidestep when we pass.

 

[Mutineer]

It is interesting though that yet another SA prospect that was highly touted before their draft year slides out to be almost not a main draft pick

Even if he wasn't tanking the last 6 months like a good boy, it didn't sound like he'd be a first round pick.

Same last year with Ashton Moir. And many others before that.

It's not great when the talent we rely on most seems to hit a development wall before they even reach 18

2022 U16's National Champions to bottom in 2 years at the 2024 U18's Nationals

 

[Jeffcrowe]

It is interesting though that yet another SA prospect that was highly touted before their draft year slides out to be almost not a main draft pick

Even if he wasn't tanking the last 6 months like a good boy, it didn't sound like he'd be a first round pick.

Same last year with Ashton Moir. And many others before that.

It's not great when the talent we rely on most seems to hit a development wall before they even reach 18

Exactly

It’s amazing this group went from U16s champs to barely winning a game within 2 years and that’s after adding the best bottom ager in the country Dyson Sharp

 

[jbanger]

The 2km stuff is a load of wank.
Usain Bolt has never even ran a mile!

 

[cleanhands]

The 2km stuff is a load of wank.
Usain Bolt has never even ran a mile!

Or kicked a football

 

[1990crow]

Exactly

It’s amazing this group went from U16s champs to barely winning a game within 2 years and that’s after adding the best bottom ager in the country Dyson Sharp

SA development is broken. Whoever is looking after that program should be shot.

 

[Peter Doherty]

Or kicked a football

 

[cleanhands]

Ah shit

Ok Bring up a sherrin and make me look like a real goose

 

[Trigger13]

I run past him on the uni loop often (he goes clockwise, I run anti clockwise). He looks like a pre pubescent child with his shirt off. I have to restarian myself not to do the old Samoan sidestep when we pass.

never trust anyone who runs the uni loop clockwise. Makes complete sense that Kane would do that.

 

[cleanhands]

I run past him on the uni loop often (he goes clockwise, I run anti clockwise). He looks like a pre pubescent child with his shirt off. I have to restarian myself not to do the old Samoan sidestep when we pass.

We need to take up a go fund me for you

 

[Jeffcrowe]

SA development is broken. Whoever is looking after that program should be shot.

It’s in real strife

 

[crow2crow]

SA development is broken. Whoever is looking after that program should be shot.

this is why im not waiting around for dyson sharp....
could slide by this time next year

 

[Mutineer]

I don't think the combine is be all and end all, a club tied player predicted to go 30+ is a very unlikely invitee in my opinion. Fattening up is somewhat of a concern though, but not getting invited to national combine isn't important as far as I'm concerned.

Not really, nobody had Lucas Camporeale or Joel Cochran anywhere near the top 30 but they got invites to the National Combine.

 

[PeterSalt]

Or kicked a football

define a football?