Fixture 2024 fixture - first game away to GWS?

[Jen2310]

If Pendles doesn't miss a game, round 18 v Geelong will be his 400th game.
Which would be fitting as he played his 300th against them, in a final in 2019.

 

[manicmagpie]

If Pendles doesn't miss a game, round 18 v Geelong will be his 400th game.
Which would be fitting as he played his 300th against them, in a final in 2019.

I wonder if that’s a factor in our big run of games at the G in that period. If he misses any games it gets pushed back to either Hawthorn, Richmond or Carlton.

 

[TheVillageIdiot7]

Tough draw.

Just need to be top 4 though to feasibly be in it late in September

Richmond won 3 flags when finishing 3rd in the H&A season each time

So 15-16 wins should do

Which this group is entirely capable of

More than ever, the game is purely about getting a Q next to your name.

Have a listen to the players post GF and there have been numerous comments about how we switched off once we had that part of the season sorted.

Draw is what it is.

Would we all prefer qualifying against rubbish teams? Only to get smoked because we have no learnings from good teams?

Speaking of Richmond….we don’t beat them in 2018 if we don’t play them twice (for 2 losses) during the season.

We don’t beat Bris this year in the GF if we don’t play them twice….for 2 losses.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Full fixture.


Opening Round = GWS (A) - Saturday, March 9 (Giants Stadium - 7.30pm)

Round 1 = Sydney (H) - Friday, March 15 (MCG - 7.40pm)

Round 2 = St Kilda (A) - Thursday, March 21 (MCG - 7.30pm)

Round 3 = Brisbane Lions (A) - Thursday, March 28 (Gabba - 7.30pm)

Round 4 = Hawthorn (N) - Sunday, April 7 (Adelaide Oval - 5.10pm)

Round 5 = BYE

Round 6 = Port Adelaide (H) - Saturday, April 20 (MCG - 1.45pm)

Round 7 = Essendon (A) - Thursday, April 25 (MCG - 3.20pm)

Round 8 = Carlton (A) - Friday, May 3 (MCG - 7.40pm)

Round 9 = West Coast (H) - Sunday, May 12 (Marvel Stadium - 1.00pm)

Round 10 = Adelaide (H) - Saturday, May 18 (MCG - 1.45pm)

Round 11 = Fremantle (A) - Friday, May 24 (Optus Stadium - 8.10pm)

Round 12 = Western Bulldogs (H) - Friday, May 31 (Marvel Stadium - 7.40pm)

Round 13 = Melbourne (H) - Monday, June 10 (MCG - 3.20pm)

Round 14 = North Melbourne (A) - Sunday, June 16 (Marvel Stadium - 1.00pm)

Round 15 = BYE

Round 16 = Gold Coast (A) - TBC (Heritage Bank Stadium - TBC)

Round 17 = Essendon (H) - TBC (MCG - TBC)

Round 18 = Geelong (H) - TBC (MCG - TBC)

Round 19 = Hawthorn (A) - TBC (MCG - TBC)

Round 20 = Richmond (H) - TBC (MCG - TBC)

Round 21 = Carlton (H) - TBC (MCG - TBC)

Round 22 = Sydney (A) - TBC (SCG - TBC)

Round 23 = Brisbane Lions (H) - TBC (MCG - TBC)

Round 24 = Melbourne (A) - TBC (MCG - TBC)

 

[DinoSoar]

So you'd rather play, for example, the Lions there instead?

I remember all the carry on this year about playing them there & how Marvel was more of an advantage to them than us...and they did beat us there.

Saints are a tenant of Marvel, yet we're playing them at our home ground for their home match.

Saints requested to play us at the G to increase their $$ from the gate, that’s on them and their choice.

I’d rather we play a non-tenant club at a bare minimum there for our 2 obligated home games and yes, an interstate team to dilute our non-advantage (Lions are the obvious exception as they play that ground very well, but so be it if it’s them as we all know they are crap at the G which comes back to bite them come September ).

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

BREAKDOWN:


DAYS

Thursday Afternoon = 1

• 1). Round 7 = Essendon vs Collingwood (MCG)

Thursday Night = 2

• 1). Round 2 = St Kilda vs Collingwood (MCG)
• 2). Round 3 = Brisbane Lions vs Collingwood (Gabba)

Friday Night = 4

• 1). Round 1 = Collingwood vs Sydney (MCG)
• 2). Round 8 = Carlton vs Collingwood (MCG)
• 3). Round 11 = Fremantle vs Collingwood (Optus Stadium)
• 4). Round 12 = Collingwood vs Western Bulldogs (Marvel Stadium)

Saturday Afternoon = 2

• 1). Round 6 = Collingwood vs Port Adelaide (MCG)
• 2). Round 10 = Collingwood vs Adelaide (MCG)

Saturday Twilight = 0

Saturday Night = 1

• 1). Opening Round = GWS vs Collingwood (Giants Stadium)

Sunday Early = 2

• 1). Round 9 = Collingwood vs West Coast (Marvel Stadium)
• 2). Round 14 = North Melbourne vs Collingwood (Marvel Stadium)

Sunday Afternoon = 0

Sunday Twilight = 1

• 1). Round 4 = Collingwood vs Hawthorn (Adelaide Oval)

Monday Afternoon = 1

• 1). Round 13 = Collingwood vs Melbourne (MCG)

** Rounds 16-24 are yet to be scheduled.


STADIUMS

MCG = 14
Marvel Stadium = 3

Giants Stadium = 1
Gabba = 1
Adelaide Oval = 1
Optus Stadium = 1
Heritage Bank Stadium = 1
SCG = 1


DAY, TWILIGHT OR NIGHT

Day = 6
Twilight = 1
Night = 7


BREAKS

5 Days = 1

• 1). Round 6 to 7

6 Days = 5

• 1). Opening Round to Round 1
• 2). Round 1 to 2
• 3). Round 9 to 10
• 4). Round 10 to 11
• 5). Round 13 to 14

7 Days = 2

• 1). Round 2 to 3
• 2). Round 11 to 12

8 Days = 1

• 1). Round 7 to 8

9 Days = 1

• 1). Round 8 to 9

10 Days = 2

• 1). Round 3 to 4
• 2). Round 12 to 13

11 Days = 0

12 Days = 0

13 Days = 1

• 1). Round 4 to 6

DAYS

• Thursday = 3
• Friday = 4
• Saturday = 3
• Sunday = 3
• Monday = 1

MELBOURNE HOME & AWAY

HOME (MCG)

• 1). Round 1 vs Sydney
• 2). Round 6 vs Port Adelaide
• 3). Round 10 vs Adelaide
• 4). Round 13 vs Melbourne
• 5). Round 17 vs Essendon
• 6). Round 18 vs Geelong
• 7). Round 20 vs Richmond
• 8). Round 21 vs Carlton
• 9). Round 23 vs Brisbane Lions

AWAY (MCG)

• 1). Round 2 vs St Kilda
• 2). Round 7 vs Essendon
• 3). Round 8 vs Carlton
• 4). Round 19 vs Hawthorn
• 5). Round 24 vs Melbourne

HOME (Marvel)

• 1). Round 9 vs West Coast
• 2). Round 12 vs Western Bulldogs

AWAY (Marvel)

• 1). Round 14 vs North Melbourne

INTERSTATE

• 1). Opening Round vs GWS
• 2). Round 3 vs Brisbane Lions
• 3). Round 4 vs Hawthorn
• 4). Round 11 vs Fremantle
• 5). Round 16 vs Gold Coast
• 6). Round 22 vs Sydney

TELECAST

SEVEN (FREE-TO-AIR)

• 1). Opening Round vs GWS
• 2). Round 1 vs Sydney
• 3). Round 2 vs St Kilda
• 4). Round 3 vs Brisbane Lions
• 5). Round 7 vs Essendon
• 6). Round 8 vs Carlton
• 7). Round 11 vs Fremantle
• 8). Round 12 vs Western Bulldogs
• 9). Round 13 vs Melbourne

FOXTEL (PAY TV)

• 1). Round 4 vs Hawthorn
• 2). Round 6 vs Port Adelaide
• 3). Round 9 vs West Coast
• 4). Round 10 vs Adelaide
• 5). Round 14 vs North Melbourne

** Rounds 16-24 are yet to be scheduled.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Play twice

• Brisbane Lions
• Carlton
• Melbourne
• Sydney
• Essendon
• Hawthorn

 

[Mollythedolly]

So you'd rather play, for example, the Lions there instead?

I remember all the carry on this year about playing them there & how Marvel was more of an advantage to them than us...and they did beat us there.

Saints are a tenant of Marvel, yet we're playing them at our home ground for their home match.

Marvel tenants regularly request we play their home game against us at the G but that’s generally because they’re looking for the financial windfall. Ditto the Cats. Not sure we’d have ever asked to play a Marvel tenant there for our home game. It’s a significant difference.

 

[Jen2310]

Everyone will complain about playing a home game v a marvel tennant.

Richmond fans aren't happy they are gonna play a home game at marvel v saints.

But its just the way it is.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Marvel tenants regularly request we play their home game against us at the G but that’s generally because they’re looking for the financial windfall. Ditto the Cats. Not sure we’d have ever asked to play a Marvel tenant there for our home game. It’s a significant difference.

I'm not suggesting we did ask to play our home game against Doggies at Marvel. But maybe we did? I don't know.

I simply don't understand all the hoohah over it.

We need to play a certain amount of games at Marvel & personally, I'd rather play Doggies there, than Lions as an example.

 

[Mollythedolly]

I'm not suggesting we did ask to play our home game against Doggies at Marvel. But maybe we did? I don't know.

I simply don't understand all the hoohah over it.

We need to play a certain amount of games at Marvel & personally, I'd rather play Doggies there, than Lions as an example.

There are 8 interstate sides, a couple of fellow MCG tenants, and the Cats, all whom we could play at Marvel as our home game. Plenty of alternatives. We don’t play any of our home games against them at their home ground. Why should Marvel tenants be any different? Conceding any home ground advantage disadvantages Collingwood.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

There are 8 interstate sides, a couple of fellow MCG tenants, and the Cats, all whom we could play at Marvel as our home game. Plenty of alternatives. We don’t play any of our home games against them at their home ground. Why should Marvel tenants be any different? Conceding any home ground advantage disadvantages Collingwood.

It's not a disadvantage if we win. And tbh, I'd probably prefer to play Doggies at Marvel over anyone else.

 

[Mollythedolly]

It's not a disadvantage if we win. And tbh, I'd probably prefer to play Doggies at Marvel over anyone else.

Totally nonsensical argument. There’s a reason teams have Home and Away games. A home ground advantage is just that. We beat a lot of sides interstate on their home grounds, doesn’t mean they don’t hold a home ground advantage, just as teams beat us at the G.

Edit: to emphasize my point, our home ground winning % at Vic Park was about 75%, at Docklands it’s about 46%.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Totally nonsensical argument. There’s a reason teams have Home and Away games. A home ground advantage is just that. We beat a lot of sides interstate on their home grounds, doesn’t mean they don’t hold a home ground advantage, just as teams beat us at the G.

We could go around & around in circles all night.

We get plenty of games at the G. Both home & away.

Seriously? we have nothing to complain about.

We're playing Doggies at Marvel as our home game. We're playing Saints at the G for their home game.

Big deal.

The only advantage I care about is winning.

 

[Mollythedolly]

We could go around & around in circles all night.

We get plenty of games at the G. Both home & away.

Seriously? we have nothing to complain about.

We're playing Doggies at Marvel as our home game. We're playing Saints at the G for their home game.

Big deal.

The only advantage I care about is winning.

I’m not complaining, simply echoing the thoughts of others that it’s ridiculous that we continue to play our home games at our opponents home ground. We don’t do it for any other opponents other than Docklands tenants.

As for winning, I’ve already highlighted our home game winning % at Docklands is less than 50%, the worst of any current venue. We lose more home games there than we win. Only Waverley is worse and it was a neutral venue. Ignore the facts as much as you like, I’ll leave it there.

 

[Anzacday]

No Sunday twilights, (yet) is a win.
PS: Hawks doesn’t count it’s on TV.

 

[brysie]

It's not a disadvantage if we win. And tbh, I'd probably prefer to play Doggies at Marvel over anyone else.

Really? So, even though a generational team like Australia beat India 2-1 in 2004 in India, it wasn't a disadvantage playing in India because they won?

Again, you're focussing on individual outcomes to substantiate a spurious argument that teams playing at venues they call home don't gain an advantage, however small that advantage may be.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Really? So, even though a generational team like Australia beat India 2-1 in 2004 in India, it wasn't a disadvantage playing in India because they won?

Again, you're focussing on individual outcomes to substantiate a spurious argument that teams playing at venues they call home don't gain an advantage, however small that advantage may be.

All I'm saying is if I have the choice between playing Doggies or Lions at Marvel as a home game..I prefer Doggies. It's not that complicated.

 

[brysie]

All I'm saying is if I have the choice between playing Doggies or Lions at Marvel as a home game..I prefer Doggies. It's not that complicated.

That's not the argument that's being made though. Why narrow it to a choice between Brisbane and the Dogs?

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

That's not the argument that's being made though. Why narrow it to a choice between Brisbane and the Dogs?

I simply expressed an opinion on who I'd rather we play at Marvel as a home game. And I chose Dogs because that's who we play next season at Marvel as a home game. I chose Lions because that's who we played last season at Marvel as a home game.

That was all.

Not interested in going around & around in circles over an opinion tbh.

 

[raymond35]

Does anybody know WHY we have to play 2 home games at Marvel?
Is there some legal reason for it?

 

[Harry O]

Thar GWS fwit Dave Matthews has fired back at Coxy today over his denigration of their ground

Another faux rivalry against a club we could not care less about

 

[brysie]

Thar GWS fwit Dave Matthews has fired back at Coxy today over his denigration of their ground

Another faux rivalry against a club we could not care less about

"I guess our players and fans are looking forward to giving him a warm welcome when he does get here, assuming he's in the side"

To quote Dave Matthews, that's D-grade comedy at best.

 

[whiskeytown]

More than ever, the game is purely about getting a Q next to your name.

Have a listen to the players post GF and there have been numerous comments about how we switched off once we had that part of the season sorted.

Draw is what it is.

Would we all prefer qualifying against rubbish teams? Only to get smoked because we have no learnings from good teams?

Speaking of Richmond….we don’t beat them in 2018 if we don’t play them twice (for 2 losses) during the season.

We don’t beat Bris this year in the GF if we don’t play them twice….for 2 losses.

Agree… however

1. Whether in points or season ending percentage, the draw can be the difference between finishing 5th or getting a double chance.

2. I also remember 2018 when we played WC 3 times and lost three times… never kicking much more than 70points against them each time.

Losing twice to a team in the H&A can be a learning experience… but can also sap confidence and hamper on field flow

Until we have a 20 team comp with teams playing once… then the fixture will factor heavily in many team’s fortunes

 

[localfootylegend23]

Pies FIXTure ia the same every year

14 MCG games
3 Marvel games
5 games outside vic
+ gather round

In 2023
14 MCG games, just 4 are against non vic teams
3 Marvel, "home" against Dogs
5 games outside vic, 4 in NSW and QLD and just 1 trip to Perth
+ gather round v Hawks

Being premier we have tough double up games - Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Carlton - and the usual Ess dbl who will expect to improve and the "easy" dbl is Hawthorn a team we always struggle against.

Good commercial FIXture, but tough onfield.

If fly doesn't deal with james sicily again I will boycott all pies hawks games. blind freddy could've seen he needed to be dealt with and nothing happened