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2024 Ladder Predictions

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You make the rookie mistake of saying Reiwvolt and Cotchin won’t be missed and forget their Footy IQ and Leadership can’t be replaced. That will be a huge and telling void in 2024.
Been a long time since I was a rookie. Jack and Cotch from a few years ago yes. I would have thought Prestia, Hopper, Taranto, Martin, Bolton would have plenty of IQ to share and most have played with Cotch for a long time and have already done the learning.

Jack's footy IQ was as good as anyone's, but his output by the end of the season offset that. Jack had his first Coleman at 21 years old, with not much footy IQ but a shite load of ability. Sometimes an injection of youth is what you need most of all, and I would say right now that is pretty obvious at Richmond.
 
Brisbane - Can see them losing maybe 3 games
Collingwood - Won't lost at the G - Guarantees 15+ wins
GWS - The Orange Tsunami will continue
Carlton - Will be more consistent

Geelong - Easier Draw for the 1st time in half a decade - 9 games at KP
Port Adelaide - Finals or Bust for Hinkley
Sydney - Grundy will dominate
Melbourne - To much quality to miss finals

Gold Coast - They'll finish 9th under Hardwick
Adelaide - Possibly the most difficult club to place in terms of development
Western Bulldogs - Bevridge Gone Mid Season
St.Kilda - Is the list good enough to play finals with a harder draw
Fremantle - Do they know what sort of team they are
Richmond - Will they struggle of Lynch isn't the player he once was
Hawthorn -Another 20 games into that list - 2025 should be finals
Essendon - Days without winning a final win extend to 7000+
North Melbourne -Development is the Key
West Coast - As with North Development is the Key
How can you get an easier draw than in 2022, you played 1 team in the Top 8 twice and that was the team that came 8th(bulldogs). With 2 minutes to go in the season Geelong had not played a team in the 8 twice in 2022.
 
How can you get an easier draw than in 2022, you played 1 team in the Top 8 twice and that was the team that came 8th(bulldogs). With 2 minutes to go in the season Geelong had not played a team in the 8 twice in 2022.
With a 6-2 record in the H&A against top 8 sides that then became 9-2 after finals (including a couple of finals thrashings) I don't think it was a big issue.

It was 6-4, that then became 9-4 (with three thrillingly close finals) for Collingwood this season.
 

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Swans
Demons
Carlton
Pies
Lions
GWS
Suns
Cats
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Crows
Saints
Bulldogs
Freo
Port
Kangaroos
Hawks
Richmond
Essendon
West Coast

Sydney v Melbourne grand final with the Dees winning it. Suns and Giants make finals together for the first time ever.
 
I wrotte this before the grand final, so my tip of Brissie winning was obviously wrong, and trade week will likely influence things a bit as well. Then once the compromised fixture comes out that will make massive differences again.

2024 Prediction
1) Brisbane - My prediction to be 2023 Premiers. So hard to beat at the Gabba, so they'll again be up there
2) GWS - Super impressed with them this season. See them being really hard to beat at home and will be a force in 2024
3) Collingwood - still young and hard to beat. I wonder if they may lose some of those 50/50 games but will again challenge
4) Carlton - Still young and improving so would expect them to stay up, as long as they dont get ahead of themselves
5) Sydney - Can't write these guys off. Young and improving and with no Buddy, a bit unpredictable which is a good thing
6) St Kilda - Another pre-season under Ross, they'll be competitive. Injuries critical
7) Adelaide - Were close in 2023. If they can fix their away games they'll be tough to leave out of the 8
8) Gold Coast - have to improve under Hardwick and I think they will.
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9) Essendon - Could easily be in the 8 and will be much tougher under a full pre-season from Chris Scott
10) Fremantle - Who knows, could actually be about 16th i think.
11) Melbourne - I think they'll tire and slide. Still super talented but i think the heartbrake of the last 2 finals series will get them
12) Port Adelaide - Super talented, should finish higher, but I worry their big guys are getting on a bit.
13) Richmond - Unpredictable with the new coach but may need to re-load
14) Hawthorn - Could finish much higher, but in a similar boat to Freo with being so young
15) Western Bulldogs - Who knows. So talented, such a gun forward line, but i worry Beveridge has done his time there now
16) Geelong - Age to catch up. Still super competitive but may need to re-load
17) North Melbourne - Could easily finish higher. Definitely much more competitive.
18) West Coast - Won't be the easy beats and will upset a few teams but hard to see them getting off the bottom.

I found predicting this ladder for 2024 super hard. I've no problems admitting that i'm likely way off in my predictions!
 
1 - West Coast
2 - Collingwood
3 - Port
4 - North
5 - Melbourne
6 - Geelong
7 - Brisbane
8 - Gold Coast
9 - GWS
10 - Carlton
11 - Essendon
12 - St K
13 - Freo
14- Hawthorn
15 - Bulldogs
16 - Adelaide
17 - Sydney
18 - Richmond
Random number generator?
 

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You make the rookie mistake of saying Reiwvolt and Cotchin won’t be missed and forget their Footy IQ and Leadership can’t be replaced. That will be a huge and telling void in 2024.
Indeed.

Not dissimilar to J. Selwood at the Cats this though (though Joel was a much better player than both Tigers at the time of his retirement, as evidenced by his Grand Final performance).
 

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So basically no change except dogs …. Not directed at you but I see a lot of predicted ladders that are basically this years ladder with a tweak. I think historically there are more significant rises and falls …. GCS or Freo even you guys could make a run with Carlton, GWS and or Port falling
This year's draft is shallow and we haven't exactly had a bumper trade period in terms of quality players on the move, so I wouldn't expect too much movement compared to previous years.
 
This year's draft is shallow and we haven't exactly had a bumper trade period in terms of quality players on the move, so I wouldn't expect too much movement compared to previous years.
That's fair, but teams fall and rise for internal reasons or just through the efforts of 2 or 3 players or a coaching change
 
With a 6-2 record in the H&A against top 8 sides that then became 9-2 after finals (including a couple of finals thrashings) I don't think it was a big issue.

It was 6-4, that then became 9-4 (with three thrillingly close finals) for Collingwood this season.
It made a huge difference...you had the opportunity to rest players in your double up matches against North / West Coast. Whilst the rest of the Top 4 played and split wins with each other. The point that was made was Geelong would get an easier draw in 2024 than any time last 5 years. The fact is it can not get much easier than they got in 2022. Played bottom 2 twice and only return game against a team in the 8 ways the team that came 8th. Surely it can not get any easier than this ?
 
My pre-draft predictions. Things could change before Christmas.

1. Brisbane
2. Collingwood
3. Melbourne
4. Carlton
5. Port Adelaide
6. Sydney
7. GWS
8. Western Bulldogs

9. Adelaide
10. St Kilda
11. Gold Coast
12. Fremantle
13. North Melbourne
14. Geelong
15. Richmond
16. Hawthorn
17. West Coast
18. Essendon
 
My pre-draft predictions. Things could change before Christmas.

1. Brisbane
2. Collingwood
3. Melbourne
4. Carlton
5. Port Adelaide
6. Sydney
7. GWS
8. Western Bulldogs

9. Adelaide
10. St Kilda
11. Gold Coast
12. Fremantle
13. North Melbourne
14. Geelong
15. Richmond
16. Hawthorn
17. West Coast
18. Essendon
The chance that North finish 5 spots above Essendon is about as high as North is of winning the flag.
 

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