List Mgmt. 2024 List Management Part 2 📃

[JuddgementDay]

I’m on the fence with Houston.
I prefer to go to the draft & also pick up targetted role players cheaply

Our list is not that far off - we just need a few more specific players & a lot of luck with injuries

Bring on 2025 already!

 

[The Bighouse]

Not Victoria

WCE?

 

[The Bighouse]

The time to pick Liam Ryan was 7 years ago when he was kicking goals for fun playing for Subiaco but alas SOS and his team didn’t really bother looking further than the local underage competitions, and still managed to fcuk up most of their high draft picks. That said if we did pick up Ryan he would immediately be the best small forward we’ve had since Eddie Betts. I’ve said it a few but I’m not sure he’d enjoy living in Melbourne playing for high profile club.

Membrey works his arse off and would support Harry and Charlie. That said I’d rather have Jack SOS doing that role.

Ryan wasn’t leaving WA at draft time.

We were linked with Tim Kelly in that draft so we were looking at the WAFL - also took Garlett in that draft from South Freo. O’Shea from the VFL too later in the PSD.

 

[The Bighouse]

North offering their future first which could be a top 3 pick. Going to be hard to beat that offer

Not the best strategy ofc but in the end Houston hasn't nominated a club of choice and has said he is happy to stay with Port if a deal can't get done. Could all just be talk but gives Port all the power to get the best possible deal.

Pretty sure he said he’ll be playing in VIC today, he’s gone.

Comes down to the money offers vs trade capital from each club but if/when he nominates a club it’ll be out of Port’s hands and their preferred draft picks gained.

Sure North’s pitch will be excess $$’s and a better pick for his outgoing club vs a solid salary, Voss connection and near success

Just look at J.Polec should be the advice.

 

[Arr0w]

Apart from Haynes and a strong chance with Houston, I'm really interested in who else we target

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Apart from Haynes and a strong chance with Houston, I'm really interested in who else we target

Cards seem close to our chest. I’m expecting Konstanty unless we know we are chasing some goal kicking smalls at the draft. Stone the other trade I’d like to see happen but doubtful.

But if we do hit the draft I’d love for a a 1/2 punch with Dattoli and Hannaford. My preference would be Hotton or Lindsay but can see that Dattoli and Hannaford could be a very sensible draft outcome.

 

[The Bighouse]

Cards seem close to our chest. I’m expecting Konstanty unless we know we are chasing some goal kicking smalls at the draft. Stone the other trade I’d like to see happen but doubtful.

But if we do hit the draft I’d love for a a 1/2 punch with Dattoli and Hannaford. My preference would be Hotton or Lindsay but can see that Dattoli and Hannaford could be a very sensible draft outcome.

Some delistings will be good (Konstanty & perhaps O.Hotton, if of interest) to avoid draft capital going out & be able to hit this years draft over & above the Campo’s.

Still needing to cut deeper.
Out: 5 (Dom & Mirkov)
In: 2 (Duffy & Lord)

 

[Red Bull]

Struggling with GC accepting our FF for their pick 12 this year.
We would surely have to add to our FF.
GC would be receiving better offers for 12 than our FF.

I hear the claims that Austin is very keen to take our pick 11 to the draft.
I’m a bit suspicious of this … and would Voss play the kid anyway.
Austin needs to convince Port he’s serious so they accept whatever else he can scrape together should Houston nominate Carlton.
If he can achieve that, then pick 11 is in the game for the next phase of his plan … unlocking a partner of quality for Weitering.
If the player was Aleer, the plotting probably wouldn’t be necessary.
2025 first rounder for Aleer.
2024 first rounder for Houston.
If the player was SDK, pick 11 would have to be the centrepiece of a trade.
Whatever Austin is working towards, it’s impossible to believe that he’s going into next season with Haynes as the only backup for Weitering …

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Some delistings will be good (Konstanty & perhaps O.Hotton, if of interest) to avoid draft capital going out & be able to hit this years draft over & above the Campo’s.

Still needing to cut deeper.
Out: 5 (Dom & Mirkov)
In: 2 (Duffy & Lord)

Nothing surer than a name or 2 a lot don’t expect to be traded will happen. List still needs to be balanced better and a surprise or 2 is to come most likely next week imo

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Would gladly take a punt Garcia and play him 70/30 midfield/forward. Would cost us nothing and the games I saw him play towards the end of this against the Dees and Crows I thought he played pretty well

 

[The Bighouse]

Struggling with GC accepting our FF for their pick 12 this year.
We would surely have to add to our FF.
GC would be receiving better offers for 12 than our FF.

I hear the claims that Austin is very keen to take our pick 11 to the draft.
I’m a bit suspicious of this … and would Voss play the kid anyway.
Austin needs to convince Port he’s serious so they accept whatever else he can scrape together should Houston nominate Carlton.
If he can achieve that, then pick 11 is in the game for the next phase of his plan … unlocking a partner of quality for Weitering.
If the player was Aleer, the plotting probably wouldn’t be necessary.
2025 first rounder for Aleer.
2024 first rounder for Houston.
If the player was SDK, pick 11 would have to be the centrepiece of a trade.
Whatever Austin is working towards, it’s impossible to believe that he’s going into next season with Haynes as the only backup for Weitering …

Pretty sure the previous #11 selected has played the majority of games since being drafted under Voss.
#30 Cowan has quite a few games under his belt too.

 

[The Bighouse]

Would gladly take a punt Garcia and play him 70/30 midfield/forward. Would cost us nothing and the games I saw him play towards the end of this against the Dees and Crows I thought he played pretty well

Think others may have been in his ear prior, namely WCE & PTA, if he elects to leave.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Think others may have been in his ear prior, namely WCE & PTA, if he elects to leave.

And that’s fair. I heard he may want to still stay in Victoria. Could be interesting but I think he and Lord in the middle in 2025 for stints could change up our midfield dynamic. I’d certainly ask the question

 

[Michael Jezz]

A disaster?

Houston a 28yo 800k Halfback Flanker does not fix our key issues in the midfield, keyback. Not worth a first rounder.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Houston a 28yo 800k Halfback Flanker does not fix our key issues in the midfield, keyback. Not worth a first rounder.

He helps if we can address some other holes too. If its Houston or filling the holes I'd tend to the latter but think we have enough to do both.

 

[charred_fate]

I’m open to Houston (but still hoping for Trac!).

I think what is easily underestimated (and the reason I’ve come around to the idea of Houston) is how valuable elite kicks are in terms of what they can mean for transition (not to mention goal-scoring from outside 50 and delivery inside 50). If you watch the way the Swans and Hawks move the ball particularly, but even the Cats with Stewart - it’s often clinical.

Being one of the best kicks in the game makes him much more than just another half-back imo… and if we’re being honest, on top of small forwards, dynamic mids and key-defenders, we are well below the mark with kicking skills.

 

[BlueTongue]

I’m open to Houston (but still hoping for Trac!).

I think what is easily underestimated (and the reason I’ve come around to the idea of Houston) is how valuable elite kicks are in terms of what they can mean for transition (not to mention goal-scoring from outside 50 and delivery inside 50). If you watch the way the Swans and Hawks move the ball particularly, but even the Cats with Stewart - it’s often clinical.

Being one of the best kicks in the game makes him much more than just another half-back imo… and if we’re being honest, on top of small forwards, dynamic mids and key-defenders, we are well below the mark with kicking skills.

I think he’s worth pick 11 just so I don’t have to watch us kick in to a contest on the boundary 45m out every single time…

 

[charred_fate]

I think he’s worth pick 11 just so I don’t have to watch us kick in to a contest on the boundary 45m out every single time…

Haha - yeah. One of the main things I noticed in the finals was how much the players moved to create on a kick-in. Such a contrast to us.

Obviously that’s system as well but it might encourage us to get more creative having Houston there.

 

[JuddgementDay]

Any thoughts on which position we have Duffy earmarked for?

 

[Blue_Fusion]

He helps if we can address some other holes too. If its Houston or filling the holes I'd tend to the latter but think we have enough to do both.

And trading a first rounder as well as inserting his salary into our cap, really limits how we can address those other holes which are more important...

 

[Blue_Fusion]

I think he’s worth pick 11 just so I don’t have to watch us kick in to a contest on the boundary 45m out every single time…

Where else is he going to kick to?

Do you really think our players are that dumb, that they can't look for a target? They are playing within their shell... have been ever since the Giants touched them up.

Mids cluster along the wing, don't work hard enough to find space and present and so rather than hit pin point targets that are surrounded by opposition, the backs kick long up the boundary to a contest.

Fix the midfield, I'm more than confident Boyd, Newman, Saad, Gov can find and hit targets... they've already proven so...

 

[GapInIkonPark]

Apart from Haynes and a strong chance with Houston, I'm really interested in who else we target

Parfitt delisted by Cats, has speed.
Taylor delisted by Roos, could slot in nicely.

Could do a lot worse than Dev Robertson.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Parfitt delisted by Cats, has speed.
Taylor delisted by Roos, could slot in nicely.

Could do a lot worse than Dev Robertson.

Parfitt is a step backwards (a bit like Narkke). Robertson is a slow midfielder a la Matt Kennedy. We are trying to clear them out, not make a collection of them.

We should be looking to improve our list not rehome strays.

 

[esoteric]

Parfitt delisted by Cats, has speed.
Taylor delisted by Roos, could slot in nicely.

Could do a lot worse than Dev Robertson.

Sam Wicks on the fringe at Swans, both footy wise and with a number of team mates. Worth enquiring?

 

[HarryFlashman]

Sam Wicks on the fringe at Swans, both footy wise and with a number of team mates. Worth enquiring?

Reckon we are in his ear, genuine small forward with goal sense who applies pressure - would make us better & wouldn’t cost us much.
Given the drama around him earlier, we might even get him on the cheaper side of fair