2024 Rolling ALL-Australian Team

[Foreign Legion]

He's leading the HUN voting and the Coaches voting

Yeah I should know how to put an ironic tag to my comments. Hard to believe you could leave him out

 

[Sttew]

Yeah I should know how to put an ironic tag to my comments. Hard to believe you could leave him out

My bad. My Sarcasm meter needs new batteries

 

[joe444]

Splitting hairs at the moment, but Stengle is a watch.

Toby Greene

4

Toby Greene

Age

30

Ht

182cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

10.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.2

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.0

2star

G

2.3

5star

D

26.6

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

14.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.0

1star

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Tyson Stengle

18

Tyson Stengle

Age

25

Ht

175cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.3

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

10.3

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.5

4star

D

8.8

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.6

5star

 

[Lingsface]

Heeney has been ok but not outstanding I guess.

I can’t believe I forgot him! I thought I won’t put him on the wing I’ll put him half forward or on ball and then just totally slipped.

 

[Lingsface]

Mcgrath Weitering Jones
Stewart Taylor Blakey
Merrett Green Anderson
Rozee Mckay Hogan
Waterman Cameron Miers

Gawn Serong Heeney

Pearce Greene Bont Petracca

I’ve edited I named Rozee twice instead of Heeney

 

[Foreign Legion]

I’ve edited I named Rozee twice instead of Heeney

No worries mate.

I guess a lot of people - me included - would name 4 or 5 out of their own team. But at least 10-12 demand selection.

 

[00Stinger]

Would be in the conversation alongside Gawn and Merrett.

In the discussion, sure

Merrett as AA captain is just being talked up by the usual Essendon media nuffies like Lloyd and Robbo. They do s**t like this every year before Essendon fall off a cliff

Although the AA captain has turned into a farce over recently and isn't really worth anything anymore

 

[Ambrosia]

In the discussion, sure

Merrett as AA captain is just being talked up by the usual Essendon media nuffies like Lloyd and Robbo. They do s**t like this every year before Essendon fall off a cliff

Although the AA captain has turned into a farce over recently and isn't really worth anything anymore

Has it ever been particularly well selected when there isn't an obvious candidate?

 

[JayJ20]

In the discussion, sure

Merrett as AA captain is just being talked up by the usual Essendon media nuffies like Lloyd and Robbo. They do s**t like this every year before Essendon fall off a cliff

Although the AA captain has turned into a farce over recently and isn't really worth anything anymore

Merrett is legitimately in the conversation though. In fact, he's currently the best performed captain this year and would be the AA captain if the season ended today. He's second in the Coaches votes and would be only behind Heeney (again) in the brownlow so far.

Being AA captain is an individual accolade and he is performing at that level regardless of team performance. You're acting like we don't have team-based awards like premierships and the McClelland Trophy.

 

[RUNVS]

I can’t believe I forgot him! I thought I won’t put him on the wing I’ll put him half forward or on ball and then just totally slipped.

Heeney will be arriving at your house in a few hours and when he starts digging up your garden you will never forget him again.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Merrett is legitimately in the conversation though. In fact, he's currently the best performed captain this year and would be the AA captain if the season ended today. He's second in the Coaches votes and would be only behind Heeney (again) in the brownlow so far.

Being AA captain is an individual accolade and he is performing at that level regardless of team performance. You're acting like we don't have team-based awards like premierships and the McClelland Trophy.

Individual performance has nothing to do with how good a captain you are

Looking at the ladder, the captains that may well make the team, from teams that are above Essendon on the ladder, Tobey Greene, Max Gawn (a lock), Rozee.

I think that Max Gawn will be named Captain at this stage. He's been just as good as Merret and his team is doing better.

 

[Some Idiot]

Goals and assists combined R7:

1. Jesse Hogan 28 (22/6)
2. Charlie Curnow 26 (23/3)
3. Jeremy Cameron 25 (19/6)
4. Jake Waterman 24 (21/3)
5. Harry McKay 22 (18/4)/Oliver Henry (15/7)
7. Shai Bolton 21 (15/6)/Toby Greene (9/12)
9. Ben King 20 (19/1)/Bayley Fritsch (18/2)

Aaron Naughton on 21 (14/7)
Jack Higgins 20 (13/7) Jake Riccardi (13/7)

 

[Skipper_]

Individual performance has nothing to do with how good a captain you are

Looking at the ladder, the captains that may well make the team, from teams that are above Essendon on the ladder, Tobey Greene, Max Gawn (a lock), Rozee.

I think that Max Gawn will be named Captain at this stage. He's been just as good as Merret and his team is doing better.

Gawn has a far superior list and better leaders around him compared to Merrett.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Gawn has a far superior list and better leaders around him compared to Merrett.

Ok, but again you're conflating individual performance with captaincy skills.

AA selectors don't give a s**t, and will vote for Gawn. Hell the gave it to Buddy over SHannon Hurn who was premiership captain in the 2018 and in the AA team.

 

[Giant Pete]

Splitting hairs at the moment, but Stengle is a watch.

Toby Greene:
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Tyson Stengle
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Toby’s started shithouse though

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Toby’s started shithouse though

Toby is a victim of his own success. He definitely started slowly for his standards, but in terms of small forwards.

Greene

First game, 0 goals, 4 goal assists, 7 score involvements
Second game, 1 goal, 1 goal assist, 10 score involvements
Third game, 1 goal, 0 goal assists, 6 score involvements

Totals: 2 goals, 5 goal assists, 23 score involvements

Stengle
First game, 0 goals, 0 goal assists, 4 score involvements
Second game, 1 goal, 2 goal assist, 8 score involvements
Third game, 2 goals, 2 goals assists, 5 score involvements

Totals: 3 goals, 4 goal assists, 17 score involvements

 

[JayJ20]

Individual performance has nothing to do with how good a captain you are

Looking at the ladder, the captains that may well make the team, from teams that are above Essendon on the ladder, Tobey Greene, Max Gawn (a lock), Rozee.

I think that Max Gawn will be named Captain at this stage. He's been just as good as Merret and his team is doing better.

So can you explain how Nat Fyfe was the 2019 captain given Fremantle finished 13th?
Or Buddy in 2018 given Sydney were out first week of final?

It's not always going to be as straight forward as the best performing teams.

The original post I quoted is questioning Merrett being in the conversation and that's what I was talking about. As if Merrett wouldn't be in the conversation at this stage. He's been far better than Greene and Rozee over 7 games. Gawn has been great but Merrett has also been great. It's not controversial for him to be ahead of Gawn and vice versa. Score 1 point last week and Essendon has the same wins as Melbourne.

 

[Lingsface]

Heeney will be arriving at your house in a few hours and when he starts digging up your garden you will never forget him again.

Clearly the best player for the year, I won’t stand him cutting my grass though!

 

[danster168]

This is essentially most people’s reaction to most of your posts. You know that right?

Watch a game ffs. We are 7-0 and there are 3 ways that happens.

1. Our entire 22 are all at, say, a 75 per cent level where there are literally no standouts thus no one in contention for a team like this.

2. There is just 1 guy absolutely carrying the team like a Fyfe, Dangerfield or Martin at various stages over the last decade with maybe one other player.

3. We have a side where a good portion of it are just doing their job - 16-17 players, and another handful: Holmes, Cameron, Stewart, Stengle, Miers - are playing above that level and ensuring we are getting the job done. If you actually watch any of our games beyond a token package that’s pretty obvious to anyone. He’s by a country mile our best ball user going into our forward 50 and almost without fail makes the right decision and finds the right target. Yes we get it, you are finding it hard with every win to contain your frustration but you were doing well.

4. Easy fixture.

 

[PhatBoy]

4. Easy fixture.

Good one

 

[Sttew]

4. Easy fixture.

Of course its an easy fixture when everyone you play is below you on the ladder.

 

[PhatBoy]

Of course its an easy fixture when everyone you play is below you on the ladder.

Melbourne have literally played 2 teams in the top 8 themselves and have played Hawthorn, Bulldogs, Brisbane and Adelaide - same as us - as well as Richmond who are 1-6. And they lost to Brisbane at home. And have played 4 matches at the MCG of their 7.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Melbourne have literally played 2 teams in the top 8 themselves and have played Hawthorn, Bulldogs, Brisbane and Adelaide - same as us - as well as Richmond who are 1-6. And they lost to Brisbane at home. And have played 4 matches at the MCG of their 7.

Or that Sydney have only played 2 teams in the top 8 both played in Sydney. Or that GWS has played 1 top 8 team and lost.

Most of the top teams look to have had easy draws. Part of that's cause they're all beating the same teams and part is a quirk of who has played who. The next couple of weeks will be more informative but it's bizarre to single out Geelong's easy draw and not Melbourne, Sydney or GWS.

 

[HeHateMe]

Quick comparison, Greene leading the way for Score Involvements, Miers for pressure acts, most other areas are pretty close.

Name, Dis, Goals, Acc, SI, Tack, PA
Rankine: 17.3, 13, 48.1%, 5.9, 3.7, 19.9
Moore: 17, 12, 70.6%, 6.7, 3.3, 15.1
Stengle: 14.1, 12, 60%, 6.6, 2.3, 12.3
Greene: 17.2, 9, 33.3%, 8.2, 1.3, 12.5
Miers: 22, 7, 63.6%, 7.3, 3.4, 22.9

One thing I noticed was Greene's accuracy though, the difference in his SI could just be him kicking points.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Quick comparison, Greene leading the way for Score Involvements, Miers for pressure acts, most other areas are pretty close.

Name, Dis, Goals, Acc, SI, Tack, PA
Rankine: 17.3, 13, 48.1%, 5.9, 3.7, 19.9
Moore: 17, 12, 70.6%, 6.7, 3.3, 15.1
Stengle: 14.1, 12, 60%, 6.6, 2.3, 12.3
Greene: 17.2, 9, 33.3%, 8.2, 1.3, 12.5
Miers: 14.6, 7, 63.6%, 7.3, 3.4, 22.9

One thing I noticed was Greene's accuracy though, the difference in his SI could just be him kicking points.

You've taken Miers kicks instead of disposals. He averages 14.6 kicks but 22 disposals a game.