List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Point values are only relative to acadamies nga and FS. You shouldn’t use the points system to compare what pick 2 is “worth”. You use history to explain how much a pick is worth and what clubs in the past have given up for it. Example, and i dont think the player matters, Richmond wouldn’t give up pick one for this either. Crows offer 4 and 2 x F1st with F2nd going with pick 1.
West coast wanted 3 x 1sts for pick 1 last year.

Pick 2 is not 3 x first selections. Its one mid top ten and one in the top 15. Thats about what pick 2 is worth every day of the week.

You can use points values just as much as you can use precedent. That's to say, not at all. No point comparing what someone offered for JHF or Harley Reid with what should be offered for Jagga Smith. It's a ridiculous comparison.

 

[Shinboner1]

We’ll end up with the 6th hardest fixture again so 4 wins is plausible

Ladder position is more based on the strength of the league at that period of time than anything else.
Wins are a good gauge of how the team is going itself.

 

[DuckYeah]

You can use points values just as much as you can use precedent. That's to say, not at all. No point comparing what someone offered for JHF or Harley Reid with what should be offered for Jagga Smith. It's a ridiculous comparison.

Yeh I dunno, Smith looks pretty ****in good.

 

[koshari]

If we get 6&11 for pick 2 then we are robbing Richmond blind, in this draft. In most drafts that would be a pretty fair trade.

they aint doing that...

sadly they are more inclined to give us the ccj or the biggy neuwin treatmant again,

 

[Zondor]

they aint doing that...

sadly they are more inclined to give us the ccj or the biggy neuwin treatmant again,

But I was told that we had built an excellent trading relationship with Richmond. :stern look

 

[Only Forwards]

8 wins minimum. Raise the bar.

8 wins this year was still bottom 4, as was 2022

 

[ferball]

8 wins this year was still bottom 4

So was 10 wins if anyone had finished on 10 wins. The team in 14 place had 11 wins.

In 2021 every team that had 11 wins made the 8.

 

[Ura]

I am starting to come around to thinking we could stay with pick 2. The value for my mind is somewhere between 6 and 11 or 6 and 18. We like Tigers are known to value FOS highly. Our mids group is sadly not built. My current best 22 has only Phillips as depth not in best 22. Its not like we cant use another mid.
Tigers know who they are targeting at 2 and though by the sound of it there seems to be a feeling we would target Tauru there is a big apparent difference in the way clubs will value him. Honestly how they value most players out of the top 5.
I think we more likely try to use next years assets then trade out of 2 unless Tigers come strong. For all the harsh feeling for Brady last few years he has been consistent. His apparent loss this year was giving up what becomes pick 29 at least for an expericienced contracted premiership former all Australian. Keeping with our bringing senior players in.

 

[lockheed]

Port are basically turning a 2xAA HB in his prime into two of the softest players in the AFL, Joe Blogs and some raffle tickets.

Couldn't happen to a nicer team

 

[travelli]

Yeh I dunno, Smith looks pretty ****in good.

absolutely. Smith is going to be huge, we will watch in envy as he becomes top 5 in whatever club he plays for.

I'm still not sure he is what we need.

 

[New_Roo]

Would still prefer another star midfielder. Can’t have enough of them - Brisbane showed that during the finals.

What the fcuk you watching? Reckon had 5 max


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[New_Roo]

I think Daniel's impact will be far greater than people think - just my opinion.

Wouldn't get too hooked up on what Bevo did or didn't do. Good coach but he's spent all his tickets at the Dogs. He had all but given up on Lobb and dumb luck turned him into Ross Glendinning. He was also regularly criticised for moving Bont away from the action during critical stages of games.

Daniel, like Johannisen, fell down the pecking order behind the likes of Richards and Dale.

We don't have anyone of that calibre.

Dale yes not really Richards as he played mid most of the year


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[TennisPlayerAndy]

What the fcuk you watching? Reckon had 5 max


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Neale, Dunkley, Ashcroft, McLuggage and Rayner were the only CB attendees.

And Rayner attended two.

 

[New_Roo]

Neale, Dunkley, Ashcroft, McLuggage and Rayner were the only CB attendees.

And Rayner attended two.

There you go so 5! This midfield midfield midfield is a myth


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[buttox]

If the Tigers take 8 top 25 picks how are they going to manage fa?
I recognise it would be playing a epicly long game but perhaps it's in our interest to have them take all 8.

 

[DuckYeah]

There you go so 5! This midfield midfield midfield is a myth


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Thats CB’s only. From half back to half forward they’re all essentially midfielders. Wingers are midfielders too. Everyone is a midfielder. Specialist players, small forwards, lockdown defenders, genuine half forwards and Key Pillars front and back are the contrary

 

[the big lebowski]

Lateral movement
Aerial Superiority
Never give up attitude
Gallopes down the wing
Fifty metre plus kicking
Opens up play
Ready to go
Decides games by kicking goals

 

[BrownPaperBag]

Lateral movement
Aerial Superiority
Never give up attitude
Gallopes down the wing
Fifty metre plus kicking
Opens up play
Ready to go
Decides games by kicking goals

Pretty much what every team wants from every player

 

[the big lebowski]

Pretty much what every team wants from every player

Langford!

 

[koshari]

But I was told that we had built an excellent trading relationship with Richmond. :stern look

We have, when brady rings them they litterally fall over their chairs to answer...

Cant blame em, the deals and insured laughter for them are priceless.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Langford!

He’d be perfect for us if he wasn’t so one paced.

 

[the big lebowski]

He’d be perfect for us if he wasn’t so one paced.

I’ve counted his running bounces. Loves running with the footy. Will be a 65m player.

He’s as quick as the Bont wasssssssss

Take him at 2 north!!!!!

 

[Karanicolas]

What the fcuk you watching? Reckon had 5 max


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How many star midfielders do we have?

And how many of our half forwards can go through the middle and have Rayner’s impact.

 

[The Talent Scout]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the internal discussions.

I'm sure there staff banging on the table for either scenario. Take probably Draper at 2 if Smith is gone, or split it for some balance.

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Funny you mention that Passmore, because I have just the right person err insect for that assignment, actually he's on the job now!

 

[year of the roo]

He’d be perfect for us if he wasn’t so one paced.

If he wasn't so one paced he'd go at 1 and wouldn't be ours anyway.