List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread

[ferball]

I heard a rumour that Cyril was going to be involved with the VFL side in a developmental role, possibly as a playing coach before the racism saga blew up. I think the sauce is pretty good but rumours are what they are.

Its easy to see how, if that were true, a quick and shoddy hit piece by Phil Egan might sabotage the process. If Clarko and Cyril ended up at North with both having public issues with Kennett that would wreck Kennett's legacy at Hawthorn and be a shocking look for him.

If this turns out to be true then we need to kick up a humongous stink but I don't know how you could prove it without Cyril agreeing to it. Maybe it'll come out at the HRC.

 

[DesertRoo]

I believe Cyril is the size of a boarding house pudding.

shinboner magic

I’d still back him to add more defensive pressure than most of our list.

 

[The acurate one]

I’d still back him to add more defensive pressure than most of our list.

Yes well parking a small house in the pocket would ensure taking up opposition space to work with

 

[DesertRoo]

Yes well parking a small house in the pocket would ensure taking up opposition space to work with

You see photos of stuart dew 2007?
2008 he’s a premiership player, you get Cyril in shape and he has that sort of ability.

 

[The acurate one]

You see photos of stuart dew 2007?
2008 he’s a premiership player, you get Cyril in shape and he has that sort of ability.

Mate I'd have him as we still have footballers on our list that won't take us fwd .
We don't have a large small fwd or any small forward for that matter . We will be relying on inexperienced kids to do heavy lifting beyond their years.
Rarely ends well.And I'm over being freaking hopeless.
It's embarrassing for our brand

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I heard a rumour that Cyril was going to be involved with the VFL side in a developmental role, possibly as a playing coach before the racism saga blew up. I think the sauce is pretty good but rumours are what they are.

Its easy to see how, if that were true, a quick and shoddy hit piece by Phil Egan might sabotage the process. If Clarko and Cyril ended up at North with both having public issues with Kennett that would wreck Kennett's legacy at Hawthorn and be a shocking look for him.

If this turns out to be true then we need to kick up a humongous stink but I don't know how you could prove it without Cyril agreeing to it. Maybe it'll come out at the HRC.

This is similar to the rumours* I've heard in recent months. Primarily that Cyril was going to be involved in the club in some capacity prior to the racism saga.


*Unsubstantiated at this stage of course, but interesting nonetheless.

 

[7577969923]

I heard a rumour that Cyril was going to be involved with the VFL side in a developmental role, possibly as a playing coach before the racism saga blew up. I think the sauce is pretty good but rumours are what they are.

Its easy to see how, if that were true, a quick and shoddy hit piece by Phil Egan might sabotage the process. If Clarko and Cyril ended up at North with both having public issues with Kennett that would wreck Kennett's legacy at Hawthorn and be a shocking look for him.

If this turns out to be true then we need to kick up a humongous stink but I don't know how you could prove it without Cyril agreeing to it. Maybe it'll come out at the HRC.

Surely the racism allegations would do vastly more to wreck Kennett's legacy at Hawthorn than to have Clarko and Cyril come to North. Not sure the current administration at Hawthorn would have gone along with that either given the financial exposure it has bought on the club.

 

[pupstar]

Mate I'd have him as we still have footballers on our list that won't take us fwd .
We don't have a large small fwd or any small forward for that matter . We will be relying on inexperienced kids to do heavy lifting beyond their years.
Rarely ends well.And I'm over being freaking hopeless.
It's embarrassing for our brand

We could have had a small forward this year in the draft but you talked Brady out of it Ha ha

 

[DunderHead]

Yes well parking a small house in the pocket would ensure taking up opposition space to work with

Are you just having a laugh? I haven’t seen anything that shows him having put on a lot of weight. He’s put on a fair bit of beard, though.

 

[GoRoos2023]

*Unsubstantiated at this stage of course, but interesting nonetheless.

They are not rumours, fact, I heard it come straight from Clarkos mouth at a North function. I don’t share anything sensitive on here but can’t see what harm there is sharing this.

 

[roos 10]

They are not rumours, fact, I heard it come straight from Clarkos mouth at a North function. I don’t share anything sensitive on here but can’t see what harm there is sharing this.

I wish we did get Rioli for a role in some kind

 

[The Dingrel]

What do you mean un-policed and would you be scared about letting your son be employed by an AFL team?

Drugs are rife in the many forms of employment, you wouldn't stop them working for a bank, government or a legal firm because they didn't have a drug testing policy.

It's a very strange statement.

Reckon you've watched Wolf of Wall St too many times.....perception portrayed in the film of financial markets, firms, and their people is a far cry from reality and while there was an element of that type of behaviour in the past, on the whole you're average "Wall St" person these days is more likely to be a health and fitness fanatic punishing themselves to raise funds for some charity they believe in. To say drugs are rife is just not true....can honestly say in 30 years in financial markets I have NEVER even seen an illicit substance, and I've worked in a lot of places at firms big and small.

 

[ferball]

Surely the racism allegations would do vastly more to wreck Kennett's legacy at Hawthorn than to have Clarko and Cyril come to North. Not sure the current administration at Hawthorn would have gone along with that either given the financial exposure it has bought on the club.

Not if they happened when he wasn't involved as President.

Kennett's a powerful and vindictive former politician with a habit of clumsy, heavy handed behaviour and its possible to look at the events surrounding this and create a narrative that explains the situation using that vindictiveness as the primary driver of events.

I'm not saying its 100% true but its a possibility, at least 33% imo.

 

[Roos1991]

It all depends on how the year goes for all sides, but so long as Jy and the club think they can provide the right environment for Oliver I see a trade for someone like TT. Might need to look at how his contract is loaded though!

Can we trade an OOC player?

 

[Its a Process]

Reckon you've watched Wolf of Wall St too many times.....perception portrayed in the film of financial markets, firms, and their people is a far cry from reality and while there was an element of that type of behaviour in the past, on the whole you're average "Wall St" person these days is more likely to be a health and fitness fanatic punishing themselves to raise funds for some charity they believe in. To say drugs are rife is just not true....can honestly say in 30 years in financial markets I have NEVER even seen an illicit substance, and I've worked in a lot of places at firms big and small.

We obviously haven't circulated in the same networks. My experience is the exact opposite - people currently aged 25-50 across many ASX companies. It's everywhere, just spend a couple of hours in the VRC Members and note that the queue for the Men's toilets are longer than the urinals....

 

[Makeshift Park]

We obviously haven't circulated in the same networks. My experience is the exact opposite - people currently aged 25-50 across many ASX companies. It's everywhere, just spend a couple of hours in the VRC Members and note that the queue for the Men's toilets are longer than the urinals....

In the case of coke, it’s even more prevalent in Sydney. Unreal how commonplace it’s become over the past few years.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

We obviously haven't circulated in the same networks. My experience is the exact opposite - people currently aged 25-50 across many ASX companies. It's everywhere, just spend a couple of hours in the VRC Members and note that the queue for the Men's toilets are longer than the urinals....

That’s before you even get to The Birdcage…

 

[krakouers]

Reckon you've watched Wolf of Wall St too many times.....perception portrayed in the film of financial markets, firms, and their people is a far cry from reality and while there was an element of that type of behaviour in the past, on the whole you're average "Wall St" person these days is more likely to be a health and fitness fanatic punishing themselves to raise funds for some charity they believe in. To say drugs are rife is just not true....can honestly say in 30 years in financial markets I have NEVER even seen an illicit substance, and I've worked in a lot of places at firms big and small.

Takes note:
"Ask The Dingrel for financial advice"

6 years out of the game, mid 30's, unkown training in between. Yea that would be some actual magic if he played again.

still picked in AFL FWD pocket role for us

 

[Hazey1977]

In the case of coke, it’s even more prevalent in Sydney. Unreal how commonplace it’s become over the past few years.

Highest consumption per capita and %mark-up in The World they reckon.

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[Makeshift Park]

Highest consumption per capita and %mark-up in The World they reckon.

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I've seen some journalists have reported that, and I do like a good fact check challenge.

Here's what the UN drug office said last year:

In terms of number of past- year users, as of 2019, Australia had the highest known national prevalence of past-year use of cocaine world-wide (4.2 per cent among people among people aged 14 years or older), well above countries in other established markets.
(...)
The Australian Crime Intelligence Commission estimated, based on waste-water measurements from the SCORE dataset, that the per capita level of cocaine consumption in Australia in December 2021 was below the levels of 13 among 24 countries in Europe.
(...)
On the other hand, Australia was ranked in first place among 27 countries with available data in terms of methamphetamine consumption, based on wastewater analysis.

So in other words, more Australians profess to use it in drug surveys than nationals of any other country, but according to wastewater samples, we aren't actually consuming more per head than people in say Amsterdam and Antwerp. Maybe we just dabble in it occasionally because its so expensive, or maybe the quality is shitter here, or probably both. But we sure as hell consume a lot of ice.

Sydney does seems to be an outlier though. The Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission published this last year:



That's very high by international standards. But its still not the highest.

For instance, Canadian govt statistics on wastewater show they have multiple cities that are higher again.

In fact the highest rate I've even seen from a government source is Belgium.

The European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction reports that the good folk of Antwerp have been consuming about twice as much coke per person per day as Sydneysiders.



Oh dear, my brain must be getting withdrawals from mental exercises after weeks away from work.

Happy holidays everyone!

 

[Orange crush]

I've seen some journalists have reported that, and I do like a good fact check challenge.

Here's what the UN drug office said last year:



So in other words, more Australians profess to use it in drug surveys than nationals of any other country, but according to wastewater samples, we aren't actually consuming more per head than people in say Amsterdam and Antwerp. Maybe we just dabble in it occasionally because its so expensive, or maybe the quality is shitter here, or probably both. But we sure as hell consume a lot of ice.

Sydney does seems to be an outlier though. The Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission published this last year:

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That's very high by international standards. But its still not the highest.

For instance, Canadian govt statistics on wastewater show they have multiple cities that are higher again.
View attachment 1882240
In fact the highest rate I've even seen from a government source is Belgium.

The European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction reports that the good folk of Antwerp have been consuming about twice as much coke per person per day as Sydneysiders.

View attachment 1882247

Oh dear, my brain must be getting withdrawals from mental exercises after weeks away from work.

Happy holidays everyone!

That's the Orange tsunami taking effect, obviously

 

[Hazey1977]

I've seen some journalists have reported that, and I do like a good fact check challenge.

Here's what the UN drug office said last year:



So in other words, more Australians profess to use it in drug surveys than nationals of any other country, but according to wastewater samples, we aren't actually consuming more per head than people in say Amsterdam and Antwerp. Maybe we just dabble in it occasionally because its so expensive, or maybe the quality is shitter here, or probably both. But we sure as hell consume a lot of ice.

Sydney does seems to be an outlier though. The Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission published this last year:

View attachment 1882232

That's very high by international standards. But its still not the highest.

For instance, Canadian govt statistics on wastewater show they have multiple cities that are higher again.
View attachment 1882240
In fact the highest rate I've even seen from a government source is Belgium.

The European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction reports that the good folk of Antwerp have been consuming about twice as much coke per person per day as Sydneysiders.

View attachment 1882247

Oh dear, my brain must be getting withdrawals from mental exercises after weeks away from work.

Happy holidays everyone!

I love a good fact checker and data too! Amazing insights. Great stuff MP!

My workplace has actually submitted to a tender for a project involving what would be a very interesting city council project up this way for environmental testing.

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[Lomas]

I've seen some journalists have reported that, and I do like a good fact check challenge.

Here's what the UN drug office said last year:



So in other words, more Australians profess to use it in drug surveys than nationals of any other country, but according to wastewater samples, we aren't actually consuming more per head than people in say Amsterdam and Antwerp. Maybe we just dabble in it occasionally because its so expensive, or maybe the quality is shitter here, or probably both. But we sure as hell consume a lot of ice.

Sydney does seems to be an outlier though. The Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission published this last year:

View attachment 1882232

That's very high by international standards. But its still not the highest.

For instance, Canadian govt statistics on wastewater show they have multiple cities that are higher again.
View attachment 1882240
In fact the highest rate I've even seen from a government source is Belgium.

The European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction reports that the good folk of Antwerp have been consuming about twice as much coke per person per day as Sydneysiders.

View attachment 1882247

Oh dear, my brain must be getting withdrawals from mental exercises after weeks away from work.

Happy holidays everyone!

Good folk of Kerang representing.

 

[krakouers]

I've seen some journalists have reported that, and I do like a good fact check challenge.

Here's what the UN drug office said last year:



So in other words, more Australians profess to use it in drug surveys than nationals of any other country, but according to wastewater samples, we aren't actually consuming more per head than people in say Amsterdam and Antwerp. Maybe we just dabble in it occasionally because its so expensive, or maybe the quality is shitter here, or probably both. But we sure as hell consume a lot of ice.

Sydney does seems to be an outlier though. The Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission published this last year:

View attachment 1882232

That's very high by international standards. But its still not the highest.

For instance, Canadian govt statistics on wastewater show they have multiple cities that are higher again.
View attachment 1882240
In fact the highest rate I've even seen from a government source is Belgium.

The European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction reports that the good folk of Antwerp have been consuming about twice as much coke per person per day as Sydneysiders.

View attachment 1882247

Oh dear, my brain must be getting withdrawals from mental exercises after weeks away from work.

Happy holidays everyone!

Why have Cocaine in Bunbury or Rockingham WA when your next door neighbour has enough Meth to satisfy your prominent shakes?

 

[Del191229]

I've seen some journalists have reported that, and I do like a good fact check challenge.

Here's what the UN drug office said last year:



So in other words, more Australians profess to use it in drug surveys than nationals of any other country, but according to wastewater samples, we aren't actually consuming more per head than people in say Amsterdam and Antwerp. Maybe we just dabble in it occasionally because its so expensive, or maybe the quality is shitter here, or probably both. But we sure as hell consume a lot of ice.

Sydney does seems to be an outlier though. The Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission published this last year:

View attachment 1882232

That's very high by international standards. But its still not the highest.

For instance, Canadian govt statistics on wastewater show they have multiple cities that are higher again.
View attachment 1882240
In fact the highest rate I've even seen from a government source is Belgium.

The European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction reports that the good folk of Antwerp have been consuming about twice as much coke per person per day as Sydneysiders.

View attachment 1882247

Oh dear, my brain must be getting withdrawals from mental exercises after weeks away from work.

Happy holidays everyone!

Antwerp is the coke capital of Europe now, is where it all comes in.

How Belgium became Europe's port of call for cocaine

The port of Antwerp has the dubious claim to fame as the main entry point for cocaine in Europe. But with critics citing a weak central government ...

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