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Mick F said:
Long was only training with the team as a VFL top up, not an official SSP.
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Doesn't matter. Any club, including Collingwood can still sign him even if he's not training as an official SSP
 

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Good to hear reports Reef is training the house down. Can anyone clarify what role has he been training in? Has he been training as a key forward? or forward/mid?
 
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Good to hear reports Reef is training the house down. Can anyone clarify what role has he been training in? Has he been training as a key forward? or forward/mid?
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From reports its mainly key forward, but he's done a little bit of stoppage work too.
 
Mick F said:
Long was only training with the team as a VFL top up, not an official SSP.
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I couldn't find anything that indicated that being a SSP is a pre-requisite for being added to the Rookie List - from what I've seen, SSP is an approval to train, not a requirement for drafting (which was my assumption when I started to look for information) - maybe I didn't look in the right places!
 
RobJD said:
I couldn't find anything that indicated that being a SSP is a pre-requisite for being added to the Rookie List - from what I've seen, SSP is an approval to train, not a requirement for drafting (which was my assumption when I started to look for information) - maybe I didn't look in the right places!
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if markov is an example, he was initially swiped by carlton with the view of listing him to replace williams..... before we decided to swipe him back to list him to replace charlie dean...

my point being that he was training with us all last preseason and it seems carlton could still list him.

as for nomination of SSPs....if i had to guess, I think it's going something with insurance matters...making a player an official SSP while they are training means that they are covered if they break a leg...but that's just a guess.

why are there 2 SSPs for each list spot? I dont know but i wouldnt be surprised if the player association negotiated for a limit so the SSPs had a reasonable chance to nab a spot instead of competing against 10 blokes....of course i'm just guessing
 
Markfs said:
if markov is an example, he was initially swiped by carlton with the view of listing him to replace williams..... before we decided to swipe him back to list him to replace charlie dean...

my point being that he was training with us all last preseason and it seems carlton could still list him.

as for nomination of SSPs....if i had to guess, I think it's going something with insurance matters...making a player an official SSP while they are training means that they are covered if they break a leg...but that's just a guess.

why are there 2 SSPs for each list spot? I dont know but i wouldnt be surprised if the player association negotiated for a limit so the SSPs had a reasonable chance to nab a spot instead of competing against 10 blokes....of course i'm just guessing
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SSPs also get paid at a specified rate.

As I recall, Markov and Steene were SSP trialists for the one spot that we had on our list, once we selected Steene, Markov was effectively in-eligible to trial with us, so he accepted an invitation from Carlton. As you mentioned, around the same time that we selected Steene, Charlie Dean re-injured his foot and so we decided to put Dean on the LTI list and hence we once again had a free Rookie spot and we gazumped the Blues.
 

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RobJD said:
SSPs also get paid at a specified rate.

As I recall, Markov and Steene were SSP trialists for the one spot that we had on our list, once we selected Steene, Markov was effectively in-eligible to trial with us, so he accepted an invitation from Carlton. As you mentioned, around the same time that we selected Steene, Charlie Dean re-injured his foot and so we decided to put Dean on the LTI list and hence we once again had a free Rookie spot and we gazumped the Blues.
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And it doesn't get said enough:


Suck shit, Blooze!!!
 
RobJD said:
SSPs also get paid at a specified rate.

As I recall, Markov and Steene were SSP trialists for the one spot that we had on our list, once we selected Steene, Markov was effectively in-eligible to trial with us, so he accepted an invitation from Carlton. As you mentioned, around the same time that we selected Steene, Charlie Dean re-injured his foot and so we decided to put Dean on the LTI list and hence we once again had a free Rookie spot and we gazumped the Blues.
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And the rest is history…
 
Well it took a while today but Annabella has finally put a long 1 up on Fb.

Unlike the grey morning light of recent sessions, the sun shone radiantly the patchwork sky dotted with cottony clouds, became almost a blank deep blue as the clouds dissipated.

The first players - Howe, Steene and Hill emerged at 9.25 which caused some ripples of excitement among the swelling group of fans who had arrived later today. They were followed closely by a large proportion of the squad. As is customary those on the oval took one of the many available footballs and indulged in some desultory kicking with their mates.

Attendance at the session: all of Elliott, Kreuger, Crisp, Checkers, Tew, and Carmichael did not answer in the affirmative to the coaches’ roll call, while Josh Daicos and Jakob Ryan asked to be on light duties today. They spent some time running on the outer side of the ground. Josh seemed capable of breaking into quick dashes when he wished, so he can’t be that far away from rejoining the main action. Those hoping to be added to our list were in attendance again, and nothing at this juncture will disabuse me of the notion that Eyre must be first selected. Will be interesting to see if the coaches concur and how they rate the likes of Sullivan and Bytel if they're going to balance the additions from a height perspective.

There were a few others who appeared destined for the infirmary at times, but Lazarus like, they shook off their ailments. Hill ran off with a trainer early in the session pointing to his calf, but returned ten minutes later and rejoined the fray seemingly unhindered by injury. Similarly, Ash who had previously, briefly sought the sanctuary of the changerooms, pulled up short during the match simulation, which required the attention of trainers. Momentarily, like Boxer, he appeared to be headed to the knackery, as he resembled a broken-down horse but after rehearsing some of the limbering up exercises, including knee lifts, he reconnected with the white team and stationed himself in the forward. zone.

Preluding training proper, McRae once again acquainted himself with the whole line of onlookers. When he asked what my occupation was, he replied with “I was a poor teacher.” I informed him that I thought being an education practitioner had stood him in good stead with the way it helps with his fostering of good inter-personal relationships with his players and maintaining a rapport with the media and sundry groups. He rewarded me with a broad smile. He proceeded to ask the kids among the faithful what school they go to and if they return next week like one of his daughters. To another question he responded that “Maggie’ doing very well!”. He usually spends up to half an hour fraternising with the adoring mob, though some were not very complimentary regarding the lack of food and drink stations, and abhorred the state of what most euphemistically call the ‘bathroom’, when ablutions etc. are required.

To the delight of the fans, McStay then immersed himself among the fans and was happy to provide signatures and suitable poses for the photo requests. He remarked that “It’s early days yet” [in his recovery], and elaborated by suggesting that “Time will tell.” [regarding a return before the finals] As Dan was interacting with the fans, Mason Cox called out “Always giving back to the club Dan!”

Wade’s long whistle was the signal for the start of official training at 9.36. On the digital scoreboard, they had a countdown clock of forty minutes for they called ‘Warmup/handball’ There were many of the usual drills on the menu today, with some improvisatory routines, such as one dividing a group into two for some high octane tackling between players in both teams.

Today there was some ululating from a group of players after the sound of the whistle and they predictably were assigned to three groups as per usual. The outer side was the station where the extra warming up took place, and today there was a lot of aggressive jumping in the mix. Another group focussed on close-in handball skills with a liberal dose of ground balls added to the medley of tricks, while the group closer to the far end, alternated between kicking and handball with an emphasis on tackling to complement these motions.

Therein followed a bit of sprinting with individuals in the spotlight as they ran, and this was accompanied by some raucous shouting and collective clapping.
There were then activities conducted over four stations – one involving a ruck tapping to players receiving and running off to create an attacking chain heading for goal, - one reprising the handball/groundball scenario – one focussing on marking practice with players using the tackling bag as their springboard to elevate themselves, while the last group made honing their tackling techniques their primary focus.

Thereafter they sprinted for the refreshment area, making some of the spectators feeling the pinch under the burning sun, jealous onlookers as the players quenched their thirst.
The next instruction surrounded the forming of four teams each with five players opposed to one another. It was called ‘five by five’ and the captains were announced, all of whom were names not in the leadership group such as Cameron, Lippa and Schultz. Two poles at either end served as the goals, and the coaches accompanying each group constantly called out the scores 3-2, four all etc. This drill was very competitive with mutual encouragement from teammates and turnovers were also alluded to by the coaches. A couple of standouts here were the noting of Beau’s elusive speed and how Fin’s extra strength enabled him to run through tackles. The usual suspects like Nick were able to more easily evade tackles in the confined space defining each mini-match.

Following this, the whole squad cleaved into two groups with a focus at one end on kicking for goal, while at the opposite end there was a lot of work around players being trained to move in chains but fire for goal at the opportune time. Mitch was good here, while Nick dobbed a long major.
After this was a whole ground ball movement activity with lots of overlapping as four footballs 3were used to keep the activity in motion. There is much emphasis here on practising the switching inboard and across the ground to hit the moving target. Likewise handball skills are honed as players move swiftly ahead of the player dishing out the ball expected to be propulsive in the way they keep the play flowing. At times the skills were a bit ragged with some passes going awry but there was also some precision which was conducive to fluent actions and ball movement.

Then after some more refreshment, following this protracted activity, the smalls went to the John Cain Arena end, while those less vertically challenged, assembled at the car-park end. The latter formed pairs who competed aerially one on one to a Maynard kicked ball. It was interesting to see the likes of Eyre, Teackle, Steene et al compete with the more seasoned types. Those at the other end, honed their ground ball skills with some handball chains and shooting for goal, accompanying this.

Thereafter was the match simulation which was an abbreviated version of some of the recent match play. Fewer players involved meant there was no interchange bench again. When goals were kicked there was almost confected enthusiasm among the teammates, maybe to distract them from this arduous task in the punishing heat.
Maynard refrained from this again but he was subjected to a lot of running which left him enervated on the sidelines.

Random player observations:

JDG – Complete with bucket hat to ward off the sun, the #2 impressed all session but shone in the match simulation with his ballistic work in the middle ensuring he left those in pursuit in his wake and he offered raw strength in combination with sure skills all over the ground.

Harry – arguably his best session yet. Nominally playing defence, he was ubiquitous. Not only was he shading his opponents but he was running hard, even bobbing in the forward line to add attacking ballast to his teammates in the black tops. His kicking is accurate, while his pace is incisive.
Nick – as prominent as ever but found himself having to rush more as he was often trapped in congestion but he lit up the majors again as he tirelessly ran for his white clad team. The heat saw him down on his haunches at one stage which shows that the players are being tested endurance wise.

Steene looked very promising at times. His hands seem surer now, while he can alternate between attack and the ruck. He hit the scoreboard and he moves well for a big man.

Beau was opposed to Sofrinidis who looked anonymous today and he danced around in attack to kick some impressive goals and showcase his damaging speed. He sharked quite a few goals today off the pack, and some were long snaps.

Reef was opposed to Moore and found it harder to break clear today as he was placed under defensive pressure but his running patterns are good and he is competing well. He looked sharp in all the drills.

Mitch was everywhere and what is noteworthy is that he appears to select options within his kicking limitations and he is rarely missing targets at the moment. He snapped a couple of majors.

Fin traversed the corridor well and he complemented his running with neat skills and a growing willingness and capacity to take on the play, maybe born of his more robust body which enables him to match more mature physiques.

Howe played forward for the white team and impressed with his marking and some conversion. While many are agnostic regarding his attacking credentials, at times he has demonstrated some forward craft.

Harrison impressed at times and combined well with JDG to propel his team forward with alacrity at times.

Noble – one can tell that he’s busting his boiler in order to regain his spot. At one point he took five bounces as he raced forward and drove the white team into attack after shaking off some opponents. He is trying hard in all facets of the game, leaving no stone unturned. Is the burgeoning facial hair an attempt to look tougher? Aesthetically it doesn’t pass the pub test.

Murphy and Moore were very vocal in defence calling for defenders to “Set up now!” and “Protect him!” ad nauseam. The skipper has the loudest, deepest voice among the group, while Murphy excels in the gestural stakes.

Allan is competing well and looks ready to take the next step as his confidence has grown commensurately with his body strength and now he feels ready to be unleashed at the next level. When eyeing him at close quarters, he blends in well with AFL bodies.

TJ was missing today and he looks the only one too callow to expose in the seniors, though one would hope that Ryan gets to strut his stuff again soon so that we can monitor his progress.

Cameron was excellent against all comers in the one on one duels with his fellow big men. He uses his body strength and sticky hands to advantage.
Frampton’s one on one style today was an attempt at ragdolling his direct opponent.

Schultz the nuggety ball of muscle seems to link well with his teammates and use his trusty boot to good effect. Will be interesting to see the complexion of the forward line with some killer smalls vying for spots or all occupying the space at the foot of a combination ofCheckers/Ash/Reef, and one of the ruckmen.

Eyre – took some good grabs and looked capable one on one in that dedicated drill.

Hill a bouncy, energetic presence who narrowly missed the ignominy of being run down by Frampton as he strolled a bit recklessly through the middle caught a little unaware of the marauding troops behind him.
 
Sea fog said:
Well it took a while today but Annabella has finally put a long 1 up on Fb.

Unlike the grey morning light of recent sessions, the sun shone radiantly the patchwork sky dotted with cottony clouds, became almost a blank deep blue as the clouds dissipated.

The first players - Howe, Steene and Hill emerged at 9.25 which caused some ripples of excitement among the swelling group of fans who had arrived later today. They were followed closely by a large proportion of the squad. As is customary those on the oval took one of the many available footballs and indulged in some desultory kicking with their mates.

Attendance at the session: all of Elliott, Kreuger, Crisp, Checkers, Tew, and Carmichael did not answer in the affirmative to the coaches’ roll call, while Josh Daicos and Jakob Ryan asked to be on light duties today. They spent some time running on the outer side of the ground. Josh seemed capable of breaking into quick dashes when he wished, so he can’t be that far away from rejoining the main action. Those hoping to be added to our list were in attendance again, and nothing at this juncture will disabuse me of the notion that Eyre must be first selected. Will be interesting to see if the coaches concur and how they rate the likes of Sullivan and Bytel if they're going to balance the additions from a height perspective.

There were a few others who appeared destined for the infirmary at times, but Lazarus like, they shook off their ailments. Hill ran off with a trainer early in the session pointing to his calf, but returned ten minutes later and rejoined the fray seemingly unhindered by injury. Similarly, Ash who had previously, briefly sought the sanctuary of the changerooms, pulled up short during the match simulation, which required the attention of trainers. Momentarily, like Boxer, he appeared to be headed to the knackery, as he resembled a broken-down horse but after rehearsing some of the limbering up exercises, including knee lifts, he reconnected with the white team and stationed himself in the forward. zone.

Preluding training proper, McRae once again acquainted himself with the whole line of onlookers. When he asked what my occupation was, he replied with “I was a poor teacher.” I informed him that I thought being an education practitioner had stood him in good stead with the way it helps with his fostering of good inter-personal relationships with his players and maintaining a rapport with the media and sundry groups. He rewarded me with a broad smile. He proceeded to ask the kids among the faithful what school they go to and if they return next week like one of his daughters. To another question he responded that “Maggie’ doing very well!”. He usually spends up to half an hour fraternising with the adoring mob, though some were not very complimentary regarding the lack of food and drink stations, and abhorred the state of what most euphemistically call the ‘bathroom’, when ablutions etc. are required.

To the delight of the fans, McStay then immersed himself among the fans and was happy to provide signatures and suitable poses for the photo requests. He remarked that “It’s early days yet” [in his recovery], and elaborated by suggesting that “Time will tell.” [regarding a return before the finals] As Dan was interacting with the fans, Mason Cox called out “Always giving back to the club Dan!”

Wade’s long whistle was the signal for the start of official training at 9.36. On the digital scoreboard, they had a countdown clock of forty minutes for they called ‘Warmup/handball’ There were many of the usual drills on the menu today, with some improvisatory routines, such as one dividing a group into two for some high octane tackling between players in both teams.

Today there was some ululating from a group of players after the sound of the whistle and they predictably were assigned to three groups as per usual. The outer side was the station where the extra warming up took place, and today there was a lot of aggressive jumping in the mix. Another group focussed on close-in handball skills with a liberal dose of ground balls added to the medley of tricks, while the group closer to the far end, alternated between kicking and handball with an emphasis on tackling to complement these motions.

Therein followed a bit of sprinting with individuals in the spotlight as they ran, and this was accompanied by some raucous shouting and collective clapping.
There were then activities conducted over four stations – one involving a ruck tapping to players receiving and running off to create an attacking chain heading for goal, - one reprising the handball/groundball scenario – one focussing on marking practice with players using the tackling bag as their springboard to elevate themselves, while the last group made honing their tackling techniques their primary focus.

Thereafter they sprinted for the refreshment area, making some of the spectators feeling the pinch under the burning sun, jealous onlookers as the players quenched their thirst.
The next instruction surrounded the forming of four teams each with five players opposed to one another. It was called ‘five by five’ and the captains were announced, all of whom were names not in the leadership group such as Cameron, Lippa and Schultz. Two poles at either end served as the goals, and the coaches accompanying each group constantly called out the scores 3-2, four all etc. This drill was very competitive with mutual encouragement from teammates and turnovers were also alluded to by the coaches. A couple of standouts here were the noting of Beau’s elusive speed and how Fin’s extra strength enabled him to run through tackles. The usual suspects like Nick were able to more easily evade tackles in the confined space defining each mini-match.

Following this, the whole squad cleaved into two groups with a focus at one end on kicking for goal, while at the opposite end there was a lot of work around players being trained to move in chains but fire for goal at the opportune time. Mitch was good here, while Nick dobbed a long major.
After this was a whole ground ball movement activity with lots of overlapping as four footballs 3were used to keep the activity in motion. There is much emphasis here on practising the switching inboard and across the ground to hit the moving target. Likewise handball skills are honed as players move swiftly ahead of the player dishing out the ball expected to be propulsive in the way they keep the play flowing. At times the skills were a bit ragged with some passes going awry but there was also some precision which was conducive to fluent actions and ball movement.

Then after some more refreshment, following this protracted activity, the smalls went to the John Cain Arena end, while those less vertically challenged, assembled at the car-park end. The latter formed pairs who competed aerially one on one to a Maynard kicked ball. It was interesting to see the likes of Eyre, Teackle, Steene et al compete with the more seasoned types. Those at the other end, honed their ground ball skills with some handball chains and shooting for goal, accompanying this.

Thereafter was the match simulation which was an abbreviated version of some of the recent match play. Fewer players involved meant there was no interchange bench again. When goals were kicked there was almost confected enthusiasm among the teammates, maybe to distract them from this arduous task in the punishing heat.
Maynard refrained from this again but he was subjected to a lot of running which left him enervated on the sidelines.

Random player observations:

JDG – Complete with bucket hat to ward off the sun, the #2 impressed all session but shone in the match simulation with his ballistic work in the middle ensuring he left those in pursuit in his wake and he offered raw strength in combination with sure skills all over the ground.

Harry – arguably his best session yet. Nominally playing defence, he was ubiquitous. Not only was he shading his opponents but he was running hard, even bobbing in the forward line to add attacking ballast to his teammates in the black tops. His kicking is accurate, while his pace is incisive.
Nick – as prominent as ever but found himself having to rush more as he was often trapped in congestion but he lit up the majors again as he tirelessly ran for his white clad team. The heat saw him down on his haunches at one stage which shows that the players are being tested endurance wise.

Steene looked very promising at times. His hands seem surer now, while he can alternate between attack and the ruck. He hit the scoreboard and he moves well for a big man.

Beau was opposed to Sofrinidis who looked anonymous today and he danced around in attack to kick some impressive goals and showcase his damaging speed. He sharked quite a few goals today off the pack, and some were long snaps.

Reef was opposed to Moore and found it harder to break clear today as he was placed under defensive pressure but his running patterns are good and he is competing well. He looked sharp in all the drills.

Mitch was everywhere and what is noteworthy is that he appears to select options within his kicking limitations and he is rarely missing targets at the moment. He snapped a couple of majors.

Fin traversed the corridor well and he complemented his running with neat skills and a growing willingness and capacity to take on the play, maybe born of his more robust body which enables him to match more mature physiques.

Howe played forward for the white team and impressed with his marking and some conversion. While many are agnostic regarding his attacking credentials, at times he has demonstrated some forward craft.

Harrison impressed at times and combined well with JDG to propel his team forward with alacrity at times.

Noble – one can tell that he’s busting his boiler in order to regain his spot. At one point he took five bounces as he raced forward and drove the white team into attack after shaking off some opponents. He is trying hard in all facets of the game, leaving no stone unturned. Is the burgeoning facial hair an attempt to look tougher? Aesthetically it doesn’t pass the pub test.

Murphy and Moore were very vocal in defence calling for defenders to “Set up now!” and “Protect him!” ad nauseam. The skipper has the loudest, deepest voice among the group, while Murphy excels in the gestural stakes.

Allan is competing well and looks ready to take the next step as his confidence has grown commensurately with his body strength and now he feels ready to be unleashed at the next level. When eyeing him at close quarters, he blends in well with AFL bodies.

TJ was missing today and he looks the only one too callow to expose in the seniors, though one would hope that Ryan gets to strut his stuff again soon so that we can monitor his progress.

Cameron was excellent against all comers in the one on one duels with his fellow big men. He uses his body strength and sticky hands to advantage.
Frampton’s one on one style today was an attempt at ragdolling his direct opponent.

Schultz the nuggety ball of muscle seems to link well with his teammates and use his trusty boot to good effect. Will be interesting to see the complexion of the forward line with some killer smalls vying for spots or all occupying the space at the foot of a combination ofCheckers/Ash/Reef, and one of the ruckmen.

Eyre – took some good grabs and looked capable one on one in that dedicated drill.

Hill a bouncy, energetic presence who narrowly missed the ignominy of being run down by Frampton as he strolled a bit recklessly through the middle caught a little unaware of the marauding troops behind him.
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All sounding so positive.

Except for poor Johnny's mo 😆

"He is trying hard in all facets of the game, leaving no stone unturned. Is the burgeoning facial hair an attempt to look tougher? Aesthetically it doesn’t pass the pub test."
 

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It's interesting that DC's marking has been positively commented on multiple times.
Also interesting was the comment that Wombat kicks within his limitations to good effect - something Tay Adams could have done more than he did.
 
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Pistol Night said:
And the DeGoey fend off of 2 players including Cox and dishing off a handball is hopefully a sign his prelim game might become the standard. Absolute beast when he plays like that
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He’s going to ****ing explode from here.
 
We have Bolton saying “we’re lucky to have you mate” to JDG….
And yet turn the script back 18 months ago and he was effectively being taken for granted by some fans (not all) and wanted run out of the club.

Crazy how a series of events have played out since and how differently things could have looked if he wasn’t here with us.
 
HFF said:
We have Bolton saying “we’re lucky to have you mate” to JDG….
And yet turn the script back 18 months ago and he was effectively being taken for granted by some fans (not all) and wanted run out of the club.

Crazy how a series of events have played out since and how differently things could have looked if he wasn’t here with us.
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Bottom line - if we didn't have Jordy, we wouldn't have won the flag.
 
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