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The highlighted is harsh. 2012 round 1. Bucks 1st game and he has 8 of the 22 who played in the 2011 GF missing

Leon and Brown retired
Maxwell, Johnson, Krak, Wellingham, Tarrant and Dids injured

Bring in 3 debutants Yagmoor Paine and Seedsman, 3 less than 10 gamers Sinclair, Keefe and Rounds, Clarke who had only just got back from Ireland and Goldy.

It was almost a case of give a game to anyone fit. Amazing bad luck to start the season with 8 missing from a GF side.

Don't let facts get in the way of a hanging sh:poo:t session on Bucks
 

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Popped into training for a bit over an hour today. I’ll leave the reports to the experts, but the one thing I will say it was nice to see big Pebbles there looking in terrific shape.

He was there with his son who got to go on the field and run around gathering footies with one of the trainers. Pebbles was recording and taking photos with the biggest smile on his face. Was nice to see how much it still all means to him.
 
Sorry if this gets asked all the time, but is there anywhere the club posts training dates/times? Wanted to head in next Friday if the boys will be on the park.

Cheers!
 
GC's theory on this does stack up when you look at the trends and go through the older players in the league - they played senior footy early. It even holds for the very speculative converts to the game.

Having said that if you look back at the Hawks champions of the 80s, some of them played a lot of reserves footy, so it's not a trend that will necessarily hold.

Selection is subjective and biased by theories of the time. There's been a broad consensus that the best way of developing talented youngsters is to get senior footy into them. It might be that theory that is producing the trend with talented youngsters getting picked before they're better than some more senior guys. McRae's mantra of setting them up for success may see a change in the trend with them playing more VFL footy. The other factor that may see a shift is the increased specialisation of roles. In the past, a kid like Finn getting 30 in the VFL would have been selected to play forward pocket ahead of Harrison.
Yep, I wasn't disagreeing with the concept behind the trend or likelihood that a players chances of becoming a good AFL player or even an AFL player at all are reduced the longer they go in an AFL system not getting senior games. I feel like that's a fairly rational concept even without looking in depth at the historical trends. I was more highlighting the fact that that information has limited utility when applied to any single individual without pretty heavily considering the context relevant to the individual.

Both Reef and Fin might not make it (here at least), but contextually if you were to filter those historical trends to only include other players with the specific issues both players have faced getting more AFL games for Collingwood, then I think things maybe don't look quite as bleak as just looking at the trends overall. Which is why the context is pretty important.

In any case, I think it's been evident that Reef quite clearly has many good AFL calibre traits, and while Fin's traits haven't stood out as much, they seem AFL level also, meaning they have needed/need to ensure the weaknesses in their skillsets that have stopped them getting more games are improved. For Reef it's tank and staying injury free, and Fin, it's probably adding a few more strings to his bow while actually getting the opportunity to break into what has been a pretty stacked AFL midfield. But he seems to have a lot of similar traits to his brother, whom while he was someone that played a lot more early than Fin, actually took a while to develop into the dominant mid that he ended up becoming.
 

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Sorry if this gets asked all the time, but is there anywhere the club posts training dates/times? Wanted to head in next Friday if the boys will be on the park.

Cheers!
Its nowhere, but they will train mondays, wed and fridays during pre-season.
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