Resource 2025 AFL Draft prospects and discussion.

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Yes, on Sydney's list 2018 thru 2020

You'd think we would have asked Dawson his opinion on him, so that's a good sign

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Yeah his highlights move me

Couple be a genuine weapon off a wing. A nice foil to Curtin and Cumming

we are in serious need of some run and dash, and at the very least his highlights show that

 

[BunjiMac]

McGuanne is a very good user both by hand and foot, not sure where you got that mediocre skills from?

Very good or elite? What I'm saying is you need elite to make up for the size.

Parnell had pretty neat skills as well, especially by foot and you'd say he had decent speed and agility, but neither were elite level stuff.

Rowell gets brought up sometimes at 180 and you can see his elite contested work and strength and understand how that makes up for things.

Neale is the other one who has elite level clearance and cleaness at the ball.

Honestly I haven't seen Mcguane enough, only highlights. He strikes me as having ok skills, good even (which is why I said mediocre) but not in the top 5 percent kind of range, which is needed to make up for size.

If you're telling me he does, then all good, I'm open to that.

 

[Cromulant]

Very good or elite? What I'm saying is you need elite to make up for the size.

Parnell had pretty neat skills as well, especially by foot and you'd say he had decent speed and agility, but neither were elite level stuff.

Rowell gets brought up sometimes at 180 and you can see his elite contested work and strength and understand how that makes up for things.

Neale is the other one who has elite level clearance and cleaness at the ball.

Honestly I haven't seen Mcguane enough, only highlights. He strikes me as having ok skills, good even (which is why I said mediocre) but not in the top 5 percent kind of range, which is needed to make up for size.

If you're telling me he does, then all good, I'm open to that.

Mediocre isnt good or even OK.

Mediocre is trash.

 

[BunjiMac]

It's not to see how fast they are in games necessarily, just to compare to others. So need identical conditions that don't change due to grass type, mower blade height, sand-based, dewy, couch vs kikuyu, impact of worms etc

It's not the speed, it's how you use it.

There are plenty of dumb runners out there or guys who never have the creativity or courage to put their speed to use. Not saying Tom is one of these btw.

I don't think from a pure testing perspective Rankine was uber quick from memory as an example.

 

[BunjiMac]

Mediocre isnt good or even OK.

Mediocre is trash.

Just depends on your standards I suppose

 

[Mutineer]

It's not the speed, it's how you use it.

There are plenty of dumb runners out there or guys who never have the creativity or courage to put their speed to use. Not saying Tom is one of these btw.

I don't think from a pure testing perspective Rankine was uber quick from memory as an example.

Then you'd be very wrong...

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AFL Draft 2018: Top five pick Izak Rankine dominates day three of combine testing​

Izak Rankine won the agility test. Photo: Michael Dodge/Getty Images.Source: Getty Images

SOUTH Australian excitement machine Izak Rankine has lit up day three of the AFL Draft Combine at Marvel Stadium.
The silky smooth forward is known for his eye-catching goals — and would’ve certainly stood out to those clubs watching on from the corporate boxes ahead of the draft on November 22.
The likely top five pick narrowly took out the agility test, recording a time of 8.039 seconds, while also placed in the top five in the 20m sprint and the standing vertical jump.


TESTING RESULTS
Agility
Izak Rankine — 8.039 seconds
Xavier O'Halloran — 8.063 seconds
Rhylee West — 8.216 seconds
Will Hamill — 8.222 seconds

James Blanck — 8.258 seconds
Chayce Jones — 8.270 seconds
Ben Jarvis — 8.308 seconds
Connor Rozee — 8.326 seconds
Ely Smith — 8.328 seconds
Sam Sturt — 8.396 seconds

Standing vertical jump
Ely Smith — 77cm
Laitham Vandermeer — 72cm
Ben Jarvis — 72cm
Izak Rankine — 70cm
Irving Mosquito — 68cm

Bailey Scott — 68cm
Isaac Quaynor 67cm
Connor Rozee — 67cm
Buku Khamis — 67cm
Chayce Jones — 66cm
Will Hamill — 66cm

Charlie Sprague — 66cm
Xavier O'Halloran — 66cm
Rhylee West — 66cm
Riley Grundy — 66cm
Connor Idun — 66cm
Bailey Williams — 66cm

Running vertical jump (right foot)
Sam Sturt — 91cm
Chayce Jones — 85cm
Xavier Duursma — 83cm
Ely Smith — 82cm
Isaac Quaynor — 81cm

Riley Grundy — 81cm
Xavier O'Neill — 81cm
Connor Rozee — 79cm
Rhylee West — 79cm
Irving Mosquito — 78cm
Noah Answerth — 78cm

Running vertical jump (left foot)
Bailey Williams — 94cm
Chayce Jones — 91cm
Connor Rozee — 88cm
Laitham Vandermeer — 88cm
Ely Smith — 86cm

Isaac Quaynor — 86cm
Will Hamill — 86cm
Ben Jarvis — 86cm
Xavier O'Neill — 84cm
Zac Foot — 84cm
Jackson Hately — 84cm

Bailey Scott — 84cm
20m sprint
Tom McKenzie — 2.904 seconds
Connor Rozee — 2.91 seconds
Will Hamill — 2.914 seconds
Izak Rankine — 2.93 seconds

Connor Idun — 2.945 seconds
Bailey Williams — 2.946 seconds
Xavier O'Neill — 2.957 seconds
Xavier O'Halloran — 2.96 seconds
Ben King — 2.965 seconds
Sam Sturt — 2.966 seconds

Yo-Yo test
Ned McHenry — level 22.2
Sam Walsh — 22.1
Luke English — 22.1
Will Golds — 21.8
Xavier O'Halloran — 21.6

Oscar Brownless — 21.6
Will Hamill — 21.4
Ely Smith — 21.4
Jez McLennan — 21.4
Lachlan Sholl — 21.4
Fraser Turner — 21.4

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

It all starts to make sense

Yo-Yo test
Ned McHenry

25

Ned Mchenry

Age

25

Ht

179cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.7

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.7

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

9.7

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.7

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.0

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

6.4

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.0

1star

— level 22.2
Sam Walsh

18

Sam Walsh

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

— 22.1
Luke English — 22.1
Will Golds — 21.8
Xavier O'Halloran — 21.6

 

[Cromulant]

Just depends on your standards I suppose

The definition of mediocre is literally - not very good

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Very good or elite? What I'm saying is you need elite to make up for the size.

Parnell had pretty neat skills as well, especially by foot and you'd say he had decent speed and agility, but neither were elite level stuff.

Rowell gets brought up sometimes at 180 and you can see his elite contested work and strength and understand how that makes up for things.

Neale is the other one who has elite level clearance and cleaness at the ball.

Honestly I haven't seen Mcguane enough, only highlights. He strikes me as having ok skills, good even (which is why I said mediocre) but not in the top 5 percent kind of range, which is needed to make up for size.

If you're telling me he does, then all good, I'm open to that.

Caleb Daniel

 

[Mutineer]

It all starts to make sense

Yo-Yo test
Ned McHenry — level 22.2
Sam Walsh — 22.1
Luke English — 22.1
Will Golds — 21.8
Xavier O'Halloran — 21.6

And this LOL

2-km time Trial Test​

Rank	Result	Name
1	6:04	Jacob Kennerley
2	6:05	Chayce Jones
3	6:07	Sam Walsh
4	6:10	Will Golds
5	6:11	Luke English
6	6:11	Ned McHenry
7	6:13	Oscar Brownless
8	6:14	Jordan Clark
9	6:14	Xavier O'Halloran
10	6:15	Zac Foot

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I posted that yesterday when I was told we had offered one to Tom McGuane and the other to an ex-Swan who was around 24 years old. I wasn't told the name of the player, but deduced that it could be Foot.

I do hope it's Foot. He's had an outstanding season in the VFL.

mickfactsis

 

[Mutineer]

Mediocre isnt good or even OK.

Mediocre is trash.

Exactly mediocre is average at best but in footy terms I take it as less than average

Dictionary
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mediocre
/ˌmiːdiˈəʊkə/

adjective

1. of only average quality; not very good.

 

[Mutineer]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-trainon-players-vying-for-ssp-spot-at-every-afl-club-over-the-preseason/news-story/13b50c0842a82bff3ee3ea62a8503ec5

​

- Dan Batten​

ADELAIDE


List spots: 1
Train-ons: Tom McGuane, Zac Foot


After being overlooked in favour of Collingwood NGA graduate Jai Saxena last Friday, Tom McGuane has the chance to chase his dream at the Crows. The son of Collingwood premiership player Mick McGuane was a ball-magnet in the Coates Talent League, averaging 28 disposals and five clearances. Former Sydney player Zac Foot, 24, will also trial with Adelaide after a strong VFL season with Southport, winning their best-and-fairest and finishing in the VFL team of the year.

McGuane, 18, will be at West Lakes for training on Wednesday and said he was excited for the chance. McGuane was told by Collingwood in early October that the Magpies would not nominate him for the national draft, with the club leaving the door ajar for the rookie draft.

“I can’t wait, super grateful for the opportunity and can’t wait to get stuck into it,” he said.

“I had an interview (with the Crows) yesterday and it has been pretty crazy as to how it has all unfolded.

“My ultimate goal is to play AFL footy and I will do whatever it takes.”

Foot, 24, was originally drafted to Sydney at pick 51 in the 2018 national draft.

He won Southport’s best-and-fairest award this year and starred with 24 disposals, seven clearances and two goals in a losing VFL Grand Final in September.

However, Collingwood instead selected small forward and Next Generation Academy prospect Jai Saxena in the rookie draft and McGuane was not selected by any other clubs despite attracting some interest.

“It was a little bit disappointing, I was in the mix with a few clubs and didn’t really know what was going to happen,” he said.

“I’ve sort of had the same mantra, just controlling what I can control and for me it is just working hard and my dad has always told me the harder you work the luckier you get,” he said.

“I’ve stuck by that and now this huge opportunity has arisen and I’m super grateful for it and excited to get to work..”
McGuane said he had significantly improved his versatility this year, with an ability to play as a half-forward and on the wing in addition to his on-ball work.

 

[Golumless]

He's strong and powerful I wouldnt say he is fast.

I dont see him out running too many other AFL midfielders beyond 20m

You only need to outrun the other mids 5 meters to gain separation.

The messaging on this board seems to be that if your below 180cm you may as well give up trying to play footy at the elite level right?

It does get that way at times. We do forget that 2/3 of the 8 clearance a game club are 180 cm this year, alongside a fair few other quality options rotating through midfields. After all, it's a test of how well rounded your game is, not just what physical traits you bring.

There is certainly a pathway for a guy like McGuane, but I get the hesitation for the profile. If he doesn't have the right attitude and a ferocious attack on the football, he'll be in no mans land, quick due to our list situation. He doesn't enter a list situation to make a career like Murphy did on the periphery.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

 

[BunjiMac]

The definition of mediocre is literally - not very good

Ok let me put it this way, I mean mediocre to mean average for an AFL player.

 

[moses]

Looks like he could make an instant impact.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

That speed though!

 

[BunjiMac]

Then you'd be very wrong...

https://www.foxsports.com.au/

AFL Draft 2018: Top five pick Izak Rankine dominates day three of combine testing​

Izak Rankine won the agility test. Photo: Michael Dodge/Getty Images.Source: Getty Images

SOUTH Australian excitement machine Izak Rankine has lit up day three of the AFL Draft Combine at Marvel Stadium.
The silky smooth forward is known for his eye-catching goals — and would’ve certainly stood out to those clubs watching on from the corporate boxes ahead of the draft on November 22.
The likely top five pick narrowly took out the agility test, recording a time of 8.039 seconds, while also placed in the top five in the 20m sprint and the standing vertical jump.


TESTING RESULTS
Agility
Izak Rankine — 8.039 seconds
Xavier O'Halloran — 8.063 seconds
Rhylee West — 8.216 seconds
Will Hamill — 8.222 seconds

James Blanck — 8.258 seconds
Chayce Jones — 8.270 seconds
Ben Jarvis — 8.308 seconds
Connor Rozee — 8.326 seconds
Ely Smith — 8.328 seconds
Sam Sturt — 8.396 seconds

Standing vertical jump
Ely Smith — 77cm
Laitham Vandermeer — 72cm
Ben Jarvis — 72cm
Izak Rankine — 70cm
Irving Mosquito — 68cm

Bailey Scott — 68cm
Isaac Quaynor 67cm
Connor Rozee — 67cm
Buku Khamis — 67cm
Chayce Jones — 66cm
Will Hamill — 66cm

Charlie Sprague — 66cm
Xavier O'Halloran — 66cm
Rhylee West — 66cm
Riley Grundy — 66cm
Connor Idun — 66cm
Bailey Williams — 66cm

Running vertical jump (right foot)
Sam Sturt — 91cm
Chayce Jones — 85cm
Xavier Duursma — 83cm
Ely Smith — 82cm
Isaac Quaynor — 81cm

Riley Grundy — 81cm
Xavier O'Neill — 81cm
Connor Rozee — 79cm
Rhylee West — 79cm
Irving Mosquito — 78cm
Noah Answerth — 78cm

Running vertical jump (left foot)
Bailey Williams — 94cm
Chayce Jones — 91cm
Connor Rozee — 88cm
Laitham Vandermeer — 88cm
Ely Smith — 86cm

Isaac Quaynor — 86cm
Will Hamill — 86cm
Ben Jarvis — 86cm
Xavier O'Neill — 84cm
Zac Foot — 84cm
Jackson Hately — 84cm

Bailey Scott — 84cm
20m sprint
Tom McKenzie — 2.904 seconds
Connor Rozee — 2.91 seconds
Will Hamill — 2.914 seconds
Izak Rankine — 2.93 seconds

Connor Idun — 2.945 seconds
Bailey Williams — 2.946 seconds
Xavier O'Neill — 2.957 seconds
Xavier O'Halloran — 2.96 seconds
Ben King — 2.965 seconds
Sam Sturt — 2.966 seconds

Yo-Yo test
Ned McHenry — level 22.2
Sam Walsh — 22.1
Luke English — 22.1
Will Golds — 21.8
Xavier O'Halloran — 21.6

Oscar Brownless — 21.6
Will Hamill — 21.4
Ely Smith — 21.4
Jez McLennan — 21.4
Lachlan Sholl — 21.4
Fraser Turner — 21.4

I am by no means saying he's slow.

I'm just saying that testing isn't always an indication of actual game speed.

Let's look at the 20m sprint which is what was being spoken about.

This is the top 10 according to google.

Fastest recorded times
Joel Wilkinson: 2.75 seconds (2010)
Jonathan Marsh: 2.78 seconds (2013)
Reef McInnes: 2.78 seconds (2020)
Danyle Pearce: 2.79 seconds (2004)
Ashley Smith: 2.80 seconds (2008)
Edward Allan: 2.81 seconds (2022)
Aiden O'Driscoll: 2.871 seconds (2023)
Max Holmes: 2.80 seconds (2020)
Liam Kolar: 2.87 seconds (2020)
Isiah Winder: 2.873 seconds (2020)

His 2.93 is fast, but not at the upper echelons of the sprint testing but I guarantee on field he will play much faster than most of the people in that top 10.

I don't know what the top 20 is, but I doubt he would be in that, but you'd swear he's one of the quickest players we've ever had.

Interestingly McLeod had the exact same 20m sprint time.

Mitch Stevens looks to have recorded a 2.885 and as previously mentioned I think McGuane has done a similar 2.938.

i just think the way you think on field has an influence in terms how quick you play which is supported by your god given abilities. Rankine wouldn't necessarily win a straight line race against the elite runners, but on a footy field you would absolutely fear his speed.

 

[whattagun07]

Can anyone tell me what chance these guys have of a list spot? How / when could they be added?

 

[mickfaxis]

Mitch Stevens (son of Mark), who went undrafted, has moved to SA and trained for the Eagles (WWTFC) in their first day of pre-season last night.

Question - if he has a blinder of a year and nominates for the Draft again does he still qualify as a father/son, or once you're overlooked the first time, it's fair game. And I doubt there'd ever be a father son who was overlooked and then was picked up 12 - 24 months later by that same club.

 

[Mutineer]

Can anyone tell me what chance these guys have of a list spot? How / when could they be added?

On the 1st question who really knows at this point?

Any time before the SSP closes on Feb 20 players can be added if clubs have list spots..

 

[Mutineer]

Mitch Stevens (son of Mark), who went undrafted, has moved to SA and trained for the Eagles (WWTFC) in their first day of pre-season last night.

Question - if he has a blinder of a year and nominates for the Draft again does he still qualify as a father/son, or once you're overlooked the first time, it's fair game. And I doubt there'd ever be a father son who was overlooked and then was picked up 12 - 24 months later by that same club.

Son of a gun Indhi Kirk is one

 

[Scorpus]

Mitch Stevens (son of Mark), who went undrafted, has moved to SA and trained for the Eagles (WWTFC) in their first day of pre-season last night.

Question - if he has a blinder of a year and nominates for the Draft again does he still qualify as a father/son, or once you're overlooked the first time, it's fair game. And I doubt there'd ever be a father son who was overlooked and then was picked up 12 - 24 months later by that same club.

I don't think he qualifies if he already nominated for a draft