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[swuzzlebubble]

every player taken in the MSD, was available us when we chose Evan’s and White

Most/all those taken in the MSD were based on their performances during the season since then.

 

[DangerousD]

Most/all those taken in the MSD were based on their performances during the season since then.

I doubt that a bit, I was checking lower league stats and most of the players had only played 5-6 games this season by time the MSD rolled around.

I doubt recruiters are picking players off of 5-6 games of Lower league footy, a larger body of work would be taken in to account.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Walsh is similar as well. We need genuine leg speed and better ball use

Next year we can’t play Cripps Hewett Cerra Walsh Ben Campo Lord in same midfield and I rate them all individually

If Walsh stays he has to play Wing. It’s just his spot and he can dominate there

Jagga will help
Hopeful for Elijah but who knows?
Wilson and Moir are showing positive signs

I’d love Kemp to play middle to replace Cripps. It’s his best spot

We need to add more run and better ball use. Bergman looks good and is playing midfield now
Braden Campbell is an elite user we need and has leg speed

If TDK goes we MUST make something good from the pick like I’ve mentioned above as a minimum. IMO we also need to trade another top player to help quickly regenerate our list

Leg speed around ground, better ball use and a genuine X factor small forward must be our targets

Yes Soap agree on all aspects you have mentioned.

 

[Gingerbread man]

Something very wrong with Charlie at the moment.

He has kicked 14.7 in first quarters this year. If he sustained that for the game it is good enough to win the Coleman by a mile and close to 100 goals for the year, with good accuracy.

He is kicked 13.10 after quarter time in 13 matches this year. That is the equivalent of a 30 goal season = bog average.

In his last 4 games Curnow has 5.4 in the first quarter, and has not kicked a goal after quarter time. That's in matches against 8th, 13th, 16th and 18th on the ladder.

FOr what it is worth, Carlton players other than Curnow have 14 first quarter goals in those games, and 26 afterwards. Still a slightly higher first quarter rate but not that big a discrepancy. We piled on 5.4 to no score in the last quarter against North and Curnow did not score, did not take a mark, and had only 3 touches.

EIther he is carrying an injury or there is something else bizarre going on. The bike has to be related to that imo.

It's not just Carlie after quarter time. It's our whole ball movement disappears after quarter time

 

[carlton_99]

I wonder what Carlton has done to Jay Clark. A straight swap here would be the worst trade idea of all time.

 

[BrianSetzer]

I wonder what Carlton has done to Jay Clark. A straight swap here would be the worst trade idea of all time.

lol I can't access the article, I hope he's mentioning giving us Sydney's first round pick as well. If not the article must be a scam lol

 

[Soapy V]

I wonder what Carlton has done to Jay Clark. A straight swap here would be the worst trade idea of all time.

Straight swap? They would need to add a very good pick to even consider it

I would prefer Campbell and a first round pick

 

[marcmurphy3]

I wonder what Carlton has done to Jay Clark. A straight swap here would be the worst trade idea of all time.

Its hilarious.

 

[carlton_99]

Straight swap? They would need to add a very good pick to even consider it

I would prefer Campbell and a first round pick

If we were to trade Harry Campbell + 1st would be my ideal situation in terms of a return. I rate him as a top 2 kick in the league and can play on pretty much any line. But can't see the Swans letting him go after the recent contract extension.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

The bit that gets me is, every player taken in the MSD, was available us when we chose Evan’s and White. Seems really lazy recruiting to assume the best two options in the country just so happen to be already training with us

Not all of them.

Some didn’t qualify for the start of year supplemental period because they failed to nominate for the 2024 draft in time or didn’t nominate at all.

 

[sweethoney]

I wonder what Carlton has done to Jay Clark. A straight swap here would be the worst trade idea of all time.

It does say draft picks to

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Pick 5 (Swans first pick) + 2026 second (points for Cody) + Florent for McKay would be fine.

The question remains:

1. Do need to lose Harry in order to keep TDK?
2. Given Charlie’s output .. can we afford to lose Harry?

 

[DangerousD]

Straight swap? They would need to add a very good pick to even consider it

I would prefer Campbell and a first round pick

Florent, not playing regular football and with a long term deal wont cost much if he leaves, even with a really good pick thrown in, it would be a poor trade.

Campbell would be great but rarely to clubs include players in these trades.

2 x 1st round picks, both picks will be 10-15 id say. Then offer a pick for Florent, our F2. If we are to trade a player that’s contracted, we need to make sure we get top value.

 

[Soapy V]

Pick 5 (Swans first pick) + 2026 second (points for Cody) + Florent for McKay would be fine.

The question remains:

1. Do need to lose Harry in order to keep TDK?
2. Given Charlie’s output .. can we afford to lose Harry?

I'd much prefer to keep Harry over Charlie but club/marketing won't let Charlie go

 

[Beer n Skittles]

Changes need to happen but I'm not sure it's McKay who should be on the trade table.

 

[DangerousD]

Pick 5 (Swans first pick) + 2026 second (points for Cody) + Florent for McKay would be fine.

The question remains:

1. Do need to lose Harry in order to keep TDK?
2. Given Charlie’s output .. can we afford to lose Harry?

It’s ok, im valuing Florent at a 2nd round pick, so the above would be a 1st (currently 8) and 2 second round picks.
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I think we can do better with a contracted key forward.

As the Swans have gone further up the ladder their pick is worse, if they add McKay assume they improve again.

2 first round picks or get lost. We then offer our F2 for Florent, which going off how i think our season will end and how next year will go after losing McKay, would be a decent 2nd round pick.

 

[trueblue95]

I would suggest the big difference is that Cripps has had the shit beaten out of him physically for over a decade. For all of Pendles class, I don't really feel the hard ball resonates with him quite as much.

Not to mention, Pendles has had a much better support cast over the years.

I think it eventually will add up for Crippa.

Poor Juddy had the same outcome. A warrior beaten up through lack of support.

 

[DangerousD]

I'd much prefer to keep Harry over Charlie but club/marketing won't let Charlie go

Was Wright at Hawks when they didnt match the offer for Buddy? I think i agree with you, regardless of who it is, if its anyone, i hope marketing isn’t something that’s considered.

 

[Osc1]

Was Wright at Hawks when they didnt match the offer for Buddy? I think i agree with you, regardless of who it is, if its anyone, i hope marketing isn’t something that’s considered.

Oh but it is.

It’s the Carlton Marketing Club.

 

[DangerousD]

If Florent was playing regular football and in Sydneys best, he’d be worth a good 2nd round pick, if by seasons end he’s back out of the side and comes with a 5 year contract, a good second round pick is generous.

 

[DangerousD]

Oh but it is.

It’s the Carlton Marketing Club.

I suspect it would but you know what is even worse for marketing? A player getting paid a fortune and not delivering and the team losing.

The best thing for marketing, memberships, sponsorships isn’t who’s playing, its winning.

 

[Jatz]

Poor Juddy had the same outcome. A warrior beaten up through lack of support.

Don't disagree although I think Judd had better support than Cripps has had over the journey.

 

[carlton_99]

View attachment 2349452It does say draft picks to

Not in Jay Clarke's article. Think FoxFooty posted that separately

 

[sweethoney]

Not in Jay Clarke's article. Think FoxFooty posted that separately

So the jay Clarke article is from what he said on first crack last night on fox footy

 

[carlton_99]

So the jay Clarke article is from what he said on first crack last night on fox footy