List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion

[Nunez]

By end of season Gallop will consign all this debate to the "Who needs JUH/Lewis/Allen" thread on this forum.

Gallop will still need a partner in crime. You're forgetting that Ty was so intimidating Hippy decided to move into the backline.

 

[martinson]

At what point to we point the finger at the coach and system and not individual players? Dogs off field has plenty of issues.

Well that's a good point. A few unhappy campers apparently. I guess he gets singled out a bit by supporters because they saw him as the answer to some of their problems and 4 years in he hasn't delivered what you'd hope from a No 1 pick. His numbers in '24 were reasonable enough for a young forward. They expected more. The fact that they've yet to lock him up makes you wonder.

Apart from how we rate him of all the younger forwards out there he would seem the most gettable right now.

 

[irel]

Well that's a good point. A few unhappy campers apparently. I guess he gets singled out a bit by supporters because they saw him as the answer to some of their problems and 4 years in he hasn't delivered what you'd hope from a No 1 pick. His numbers in '24 were reasonable enough for a young forward. They expected more. The fact that they've yet to lock him up makes you wonder.

Apart from how we rate him of all the younger forwards out there he would seem the most gettable right now.

Pretty much mirrors with Rayner's perception, before this year's finals performance.

 

[Nunez]

Can't wait for JUH to kick 4 in next year's GF as we go Back-To-Back-to-back

 

[martinson]

Pretty much mirrors with Rayner's perception, before this year's finals performance.

Rayner was older ,had 6 years already prior to '24 , so in that sense JUH is still a pup.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

For some reason there doesn't seem to be much discussion about JUH's contact on the Dogs board or on the Trading board, despite being mentioned a few times by the AFL website as a potential Lions target. Not sure why.

 

[lionshine]

For some reason there doesn't seem to be much discussion about JUH's contact on the Dogs board or on the Trading board, despite being mentioned a few times by the AFL website as a potential Lions target. Not sure why.

He isn’t out of contract until 2026 so that’s probably why.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Gallop will still need a partner in crime.

Bring back Stuey Trott.

 

[lionsrules]

Will JUH play in the all stars team? If so he will get a taste of working along side Callum and Charlie.

 

[Section 5]

We do have depth to fall back on apart from CHF so who are these players and is it enough.
Clubs are required to bring in players from the draft. That ensures inexperience is always on your list.
That can be hit and miss but the last few years the Lions have had a good run and Annable next year.

I excluded Oscar (injury), Coleman (injury) Day, & Levi as i have them starting 23.

Midfield/Wing: Reville (AFL proven), Marshall, Torrent (untried), Robertson & Tunstill (biding time but can fill a gap).

Ruck: Fort, Smith (R/F).

Forward: McCarthy (injury), Gardiner (injury) (AFL proven), Lloyd, Gallop, McLachlan, Craven (untried), Ryan (fills a gap).

Defense: Answerth, McKenna, Joyce, Brain, Doedee (injury) (AFL proven), Beecken ZZ (untried).

 

[Perrip]

Who's on the table? Updated list of 2025 free agents revealed

*Qualifies as previously delisted
BRISBANE
Darcy Gardiner
Ryan Lester
Brandon Starcevich
Dayne Zorko
Darragh Joyce*
Sam Day*

 

[KissKiss]

Still only a couple of players like TDK or Allen that I'd be interested in chasing for us. There are some other good players there but really in positions of need for us

 

[Pns_blister]

Uncertainty over immediate playing future of Ugle-Hagan

It is a complex situation.

www.sen.com.au

 

[Nunez]

Uncertainty over immediate playing future of Ugle-Hagan

It is a complex situation.

www.sen.com.au

Should speak to Joe about getting out of the fishbowl.

 

[Pns_blister]

Should speak to Joe about getting out of the fishbowl.

It’s shaping up a little that way, isn’t it?

 

[Bucking Beads]

Uncertainty over immediate playing future of Ugle-Hagan

It is a complex situation.

www.sen.com.au

It is happening.

 

[Perrip]

Uncertainty over immediate playing future of Ugle-Hagan

It is a complex situation.

www.sen.com.au

A key forward from a Victorian club having an awful last year at their Victorian club before requesting a trade to Brisbane? That sounds awfully familiar.

 

[irel]

So we are trading for JUH and free agency Allen.
The season is going to be a drag until the real action starts.
Trade and Draft period can not come soon enough.

 

[Perrip]

A key forward from a Victorian club having an awful last year at their Victorian club before requesting a trade to Brisbane? That sounds awfully familiar.

In all seriousness, I wouldn't be surprised if he retires tbh

 

[knaf]

It is happening.

From the article “Ugle-Hagan’s complicated situation is not new ground for the Dogs,”

Still have a suspicion that it might relate to the legal situation back in Framingham. It fits the definition of “complicated situation”. Well known Indigenous leader convicted of fraud. I have no idea how close this is to JUH’s direct family but it is a small tight community around Warrnambool.

Not sure if needing to get out of the “fishbowl” is the issue.

Hope the young bloke can work his way through it. Would be a pity if his talent is lost to the game.

 

[Perrip]

Still have a suspicion that it might relate to the legal situation back in Framingham. It fits the definition of “complicated situation”. Well known Indigenous leader convicted of fraud. I have no idea how close this is to JUH’s direct family but it is a small tight community around Warrnambool.

There's very few scenarious where the media would be knowledgable about a star player missing pre-season and directly choosing not to specifically say what the situation is. Especially the more notable of 'pot-stirrer' media commentaters, like Sam McClure, not stating what the situation is. This would be one of those things.

 

[briztoon]

So we are trading for JUH and free agency Allen.
The season is going to be a drag until the real action starts.
Trade and Draft period can not come soon enough.

****ing stealing my schtick.

 

[Sproj]

So we are trading for JUH and free agency Allen.
The season is going to be a drag until the real action starts.
Trade and Draft period can not come soon enough.

Yep going back to back will be small comfort compared to the trade and draft period where the real winners win.

 

[irel]

Yep going back to back will be small comfort compared to the trade and draft period where the real winners win.

Indeed Sproj
Now that we no longer have Dodoro winning it every year for the past twenty, maybe we stand a chance.

 

[Perrip]

Breaking down the contract conundrum the Lions’ success has triggered

Even after breaking a premiership drought of more than two decades, the Brisbane Lions are far from a settled side heading into the 2025 campaign.
Coach Chris Fagan’s men dazzled the AFL last year courtesy of a cohort of rising stars who earned their stripes after season-ending injuries threw the careers of four men into disarray.
Keidean Coleman, Tom Doedee, Lincoln McCarthy and Darcy Gardiner all sustained torn ACLs. In their place, Kai Lohmann, Darcy Wilmot, Logan Morris and Jaspa Fletcher became staples of the line-up, as did fellow fledgling star Will Ashcroft.
Of the returning quartet, only Doedee and Coleman are signed beyond 2025, with grand final stars Lohmann, Morris, Callum Ah Chee, Brandon Starcevich and Dayne Zorko also off contract at season’s end.
Fletcher admitted while there would inevitably be some talk about who remains in Brisbane and who seeks greener pastures elsewhere, those conversations were not yet in the works.
And the 20-year-old issued a warning to the rest of the competition: the men on the comeback trail, including ruckman Oscar McInerney, were looking in ominous touch, and in line to feature for their opening clash against Geelong.
“From what I’ve heard I believe so [they will be fit], they’re moving really well, and we’re looking forward to having them back with the group,” Fletcher said.
“When we speak about the fittest … they’re absolutely flying at the moment. I remember walking in and just seeing them doing a session at seven in morning, and they were absolutely flying.
“There’s probably going to be a lot of talk about that sort of thing [contracts], but we’re focused on the year ahead.
“Whatever happens at the end of the year happens, but this group is focused on week by week, and hopefully, we can get back to the end of September again.”
Star forward Joe Daniher’s retirement left the only void in the Lions side who conquered the Sydney Swans on grand final day, with his place expected to be taken by former Gold Coast Sun Sam Day.
The additions of highly touted draftees Levi Ashcroft and Sam Marshall has only heightened competition for spots.
It will create an almighty selection headache for Fagan once he has a full-strength squad to choose from, with even his veterans such as Zorko no guarantee of retaining their spots.
Zorko’s shift to halfback, having spent the12 years in the midfield or forward line, came to accommodate the losses of Coleman and Doedee, but the 35-year-old confirmed he was set to remain in the backline.