List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion

[St Neil]

It feels like Carlton getting Judd involved with TDK (which is funny as he left for more money), is the same as us with Battle last year?

I think they (Carlton) are on the back foot and know it ?

Reeks of desperation.

 

[Joffaboy]

He was a huge Saints fan lol

This has been mentioned a lot in the media

Same Simon Leathlean that said no to Noah Anderson when he wanted to came home after his 1st year, apparently we wanted to keep the picks for Ben King , this I know as fact lol

Old mate was NVG

We had Bing until the AFL offered 150k a year extra for 4 years 'ambassador' money outside the Gold Coast Salary cap. And you are correct about the picks, The person who told me the ambassador money stuff said we had the draft capital.
Not saying he was right to do that, but it was set up with Bing to come. In hindsight one King is more than enough but at the time the forum was abuzz with getting Bing.

 

[saintbill]

We take Rozee we don't take Nas, don't need 2 back flankers you see

You can never have enough back flankers at the Saints.

 

[L_W_P]

Just like taking McCartin over Petracca was the right call, King over Rozee made sense for our list at the time.

We had Josh Bruce

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Josh Bruce

Age

33

Ht

198cm

Wt

97kg

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D/F

Career

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Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

90.4

1star

D

8.9

2star

K

3.5

1star

HB

5.4

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

90.4

2star

D

11.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

and the injured McCartin as tall forwards at the time. Membrey was the next 'tall' forward despite being undersized.

Maxy made all the sense in the world to come in and take on the #1 mantle. We can argue about his injuries, development and how the team plays when he's available, but we were screaming for another KPF at the time.

The only realistic alternative would have been to grab Rozee and use Marshall at FF with Hickey/Longer in the ruck.

We could have possibly built something with Bruce at FF and then used Battle, Acres and Membrey as mid size targets but again, that's a coach/development issue, nothing to do with King's talent.

 

[The Punter]

Just like taking McCartin over Petracca was the right call, King over Rozee made sense for our list at the time.

We had Josh Bruce and the injured McCartin as tall forwards at the time. Membrey was the next 'tall' forward despite being undersized.

Maxy made all the sense in the world to come in and take on the #1 mantle. We can argue about his injuries, development and how the team plays when he's available, but we were screaming for another KPF at the time.

The only realistic alternative would have been to grab Rozee and use Marshall at FF with Hickey/Longer in the ruck.

We could have possibly built something with Bruce at FF and then used Battle, Acres and Membrey as mid size targets but again, that's a coach/development issue, nothing to do with King's talent.

Again, this is the argument about hindsight.

I don't recall there being many people saying we shouldn't pick Max. Billings was a consensus pick 3. \

McCartin over Petracca was acknowledged as a calculated risk at the time.

 

[Joffaboy]

You can never have enough back flankers at the Saints.

Plenty of Half Back Flankers on this forum

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Again, this is the argument about hindsight.

I don't recall there being many people saying we shouldn't pick Max. Billings was a consensus pick 3. \

McCartin over Petracca was acknowledged as a calculated risk at the time.

I recall a few people lamenting our midfield who were shouted down by what a generational talent Max was and how Ben would soon come back and join him.

 

[The Punter]

I recall a few people lamenting our midfield who were shouted down by what a generational talent Max was and how Ben would soon come back and join him.

Happy for links or posts quoted to correct me.

 

[Desperate saint]

Just like taking McCartin over Petracca was the right call, King over Rozee made sense for our list at the time.

We had Josh Bruce and the injured McCartin as tall forwards at the time. Membrey was the next 'tall' forward despite being undersized.

Maxy made all the sense in the world to come in and take on the #1 mantle. We can argue about his injuries, development and how the team plays when he's available, but we were screaming for another KPF at the time.

The only realistic alternative would have been to grab Rozee and use Marshall at FF with Hickey/Longer in the ruck.

We could have possibly built something with Bruce at FF and then used Battle, Acres and Membrey as mid size targets but again, that's a coach/development issue, nothing to do with King's talent.

Mcartin over Petracca was never the right call-you only have to google up type 1 diabetes and elite contact sport and work that one out

 

[pebblesofsand]

Mcartin over Petracca was never the right call-you only have to google up type 1 diabetes and elite contact sport and work that one out

Surprised you've never heard of Jamie Cripps

Jamie Cripps of the West Coast Eagles Career AFL Stats

Jamie Cripps of West Coast Eagles career AFL statistics

www.footywire.com

 

[botts]

Surprised you've never heard of Jamie Cripps

Jamie Cripps of the West Coast Eagles Career AFL Stats

Jamie Cripps of West Coast Eagles career AFL statistics

www.footywire.com

Didn’t we get stuff all back for him? Can’t wait to get Harley Reid for nothing to even the score

 

[AirWinmar]

Why would his son chose us over being a 4th generation Carlton player?

Sometimes you need someone to break the cycle lol

 

[MordySaint]

I recall a few people lamenting our midfield who were shouted down by what a generational talent Max was and how Ben would soon come back and join him.

Then came the infamous tweet, I wonder who authorized that doozie. Hasn't aged well at all.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Happy for links or posts quoted to correct me.

Max lead the thread poll, but the midfield supporters were divided between Caldwell and Smith.

List Mgmt. - 2018 NAB AFL Draft: November 22nd & 23rd

If Coffield was just a fraction taller I think he could make a very good CHB. Do you think he could hold that position one day? I don't think he'll be quite big enough. We apparently told him we want him playing midfield and he's supposedly been training there and gone so well there that he's...

www.bigfooty.com

List Mgmt. - 2018 NAB AFL Draft: November 22nd & 23rd

If we do end up with a really low pick you'd think we'd have to be a huge chance of picking Sam Walsh. Fills our needs in a major way (midfield "running machine", with good skills, who can play inside and out and who just racks up big numbers each week) and he's from Vic, and according to SK...

www.bigfooty.com

List Mgmt. - 2018 NAB AFL Draft: November 22nd & 23rd

My number one at the moment, this man. Looks to have a lot of Josh Kelly about him. Looks the most damaging midfielder of the draft, very evasive and a beautiful kick.

www.bigfooty.com

List Mgmt. - 2018 NAB AFL Draft: November 22nd & 23rd

With us being interested in De Goey. This could be similar to how we get the deal done. 2018 first rounder for De Goey and their first this year. And like extra picks and stuff to even it out. Would rather take our pick to the draft to be honest, there are too many guns in the top 10 even if...

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List Mgmt. - 2018 NAB AFL Draft: November 22nd & 23rd

I reckon Daniel Wells would have been but for injury and maybe even still was better over all. Jobe Watson and Kade Simpson probably the two best players from that draft though. Brendan was slightly disappointing apart from 2010 finals series where he nearly made himself a immortal. I would have...

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List Mgmt. - 2018 NAB AFL Draft: November 22nd & 23rd

It’s draft day Sainters, and I’m as relaxed as a prime minister at the beach in his budgie smugglers! I’m hoping that by the end of the day the term ‘that’s Rank’ means something special to the RWB.

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What's weird is that when i cut and paste the post number it seems to link to a different post.

 

[MordySaint]

Max lead the thread poll, but the midfield supporters were divided between Caldwell and Smith.


What's weird is that when i cut and paste the post number it seems to link to a different post.

The fact that Max is leading is missleading.

Any player that goes to another team before our pick at 4 then their choice should be redistributed to a different player.

So its not really a correct indication of who posters wanted to draft.

 

[_Maximus_12]

If king had stayed healthy for the first 6 years of his career he’d be talked about as the best player in the draft.
Continuity, not ability, has hampered his career and I’d say very few of you will complain if he’s part of our next period of contention

 

[pebblesofsand]

Didn’t we get stuff all back for him? Can’t wait to get Harley Reid for nothing to even the score

Yeah - didn't get much.

He/we didn't discover he had diabetes until after he was drafted and he struggled a fair bit without family support here in Melb.

So we did the right thing and made it easy for him to get back to WA. Doubt anybody thought he'd end up playing 260 games.

 

[botts]

Yeah - didn't get much.

He/we didn't discover he had diabetes until after he was drafted and he struggled a fair bit without family support here in Melb.

So we did the right thing and made it easy for him to get back to WA. Doubt anybody thought he'd end up playing 260 games.

Yep. Got fingers and he won a flag. Hopefully we arnt nice anymore

 

[austinnn]

If he only took easy options, like 80% of AFL players, he would be running at 99% DE. Because he's such a fantastic user he's given license to take on the dangerous kicks that try to open up the game for us. Sometimes these will not come off.

He's a fantastic kick, and we love it in his hands.

I listened to a very interesting podcast yesterday, it concerns "soccer" but it's about data and its use in recruiting. They interview Dr Ian Graham, who worked at Liverpool FC from 2012 to 2019 and was heavily involved in the recruitment of Salah, Van Dijk and Allison, as well as the sale of Coutinho.

I only mention this because they talked about how managers like Ferguson and Klopp wanted brave midfielders who tried the high-risk high-reward passes, rather than mids who had higher disposal efficiency numbers because they took the safer option most of the time. As coaches set their teams up so professionally these days, you really need a few mavericks who can attempt the unusual to get anywhere.

I was really frustrated with Nas's disposal on Friday, but I love that we have a couple of players with the balls and the skill to cut a game open like that. With experience he will only get better, he's still played under 100 games.

The little bit about limited returns was also pretty interesting in terms of team balance and attacking players.

Here's the link to that podcast if you're interested:

 

[Mowman]

If king had stayed healthy for the first 6 years of his career he’d be talked about as the best player in the draft.
Continuity, not ability, has hampered his career and I’d say very few of you will complain if he’s part of our next period of contention

And if my Auntie had nuts she would be my uncle

No one is doubting his ability but many a talented player has had his career cut short because their body can't handle AFL footy

if Paddy McCartin didn't have concussion issue he would've been a very good player too

We all hope King comes back and doesn't miss another game for the next 7 years, but the 6 years so far is a decent sample size

 

[Saints43]

Noah Anderson signed a 2 year contract extension before his first season was over. He was never gettable or going to be traded by Gold Coast.

Challenge Accepted: Noah Anderson Signs On

Exciting young midfielder Noah Anderson has committed his future to the Gold Coast SUNS, signing a two-year contract extension to the end of the 2023 season.

www.goldcoastfc.com.au

****ing Lethlean not letting him come back home after round one.

 

[The Jack]

Surprised you've never heard of Jamie Cripps

Jamie Cripps of the West Coast Eagles Career AFL Stats

Jamie Cripps of West Coast Eagles career AFL statistics

www.footywire.com

Non contact seagull. Different.

 

[SaintSteele9]

Not sure if mentioned in the last 12 pages I’ve missed since Tuesday (you campaigners can post sheesh) but I did hear some interesting and positive news on Max’s knee. Cause for some optimism at least. We need the big unit back and I’m glad we took him over Rozee FWIW

 

[Saintbloke]

Macrae is elite. Phillipou has elite potential. Then we have depth and developing. Steele has been a close enough to A grade. Hopefully he can have a revival. Plenty of others have fallen away and come good again. Even Cripps looked done a few years back and Ollie Wines was absolutely cooked.

Windhager still has potential to be a very good Steele level player. Phillipou, Garcia both tracking very well. Jones, Clark and Dow all uneven C to B graders who can star or stall.

Not many sides carry more than a couple of elite mids. We probably need P{Phillipou to step up to an elite level and hope that one of the kids can develop in time for Macrae to step aside. Keep adding drafted kids and look for a few bargains. Collingwood stacked their midfield with recycled talent and it looks dominant around a couple of elite talents.

Pou has plenty of potential, done some nice work in a number of games, but until he can influence games as a midfielder or a forward, then we have to hope he will take another step up. We can't put every player who shows promise, into the midfield- someone needs to make it their own. McRae has shown his A-grade qualities, Nas did a few nice things in there, but seems better as an attacking half back, she for Sincs, but quality does trail away and we have group

Not sure if mentioned in the last 12 pages I’ve missed since Tuesday (you campaigners can post sheesh) but I did hear some interesting and positive news on Max’s knee. Cause for some optimism at least. We need the big unit back and I’m glad we took him over Rozee FWIW

Hop Max recovers, but he is an eggshell and will play a few good games and then another injury.

 

[Ads734]

Pou has plenty of potential, done some nice work in a number of games, but until he can influence games as a midfielder or a forward, then we have to hope he will take another step up. We can't put every player who shows promise, into the midfield- someone needs to make it their own. McRae has shown his A-grade qualities, Nas did a few nice things in there, but seems better as an attacking half back, she for Sincs, but quality does trail away and we have group

Hop Max recovers, but he is an eggshell and will play a few good games and then another injury.

Now how is he supposed to dominate the midfield if he doesn’t get put in there????

Oh and btw he dominated the VFL as a midfielder….