List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[Bic]

Florent is a solid B grader. Would love to have him.

B grader? On potential maybe.
Currently C grade, barely.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Voss blaming everyone (Injuries, depth, list profile) but himself and coaches. I'm shocked reading this.

Having spent two years delisting / trading all the depth with kids, we are now looking to bring in more experience.
FMD this club refuse to accept the issues.

MSN

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Voss blaming everyone (Injuries, depth, list profile) but himself and coaches. I'm shocked reading this.

Having spent two years delisting / trading all the depth with kids, we are now looking to bring in more experience.
FMD this club refuse to accept the issues.

MSN

All our key players are in their prime.

Gotta have a crack and see what happens.

We have some really talented kids on the list, which has come as a huge surprise to me tbh. No point continuing to load up on them.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

B grader? On potential maybe.
Currently C grade, barely.

Another half back costing draft picks(Florent) doesn't float my boat.
We've got Newman returning, Saad contracted, Cow will be a beast, Carroll is a young gun, Ollie has surprised me, Billy and Jeff haven't hardly begun their careers...and Ison should also be an option.

I need convincing that he's that much better than some of the players already on the list.

So far Rosas and Grewzewski are about the only suggested targets that prick my interest, depending on the cost.

 

[BlueTongue]

Trade talk: West Coast forward tipped to join St Kilda influx

The Saints are in the mix for a number of players.

www.sen.com.au

Liam Ryan apparently to the saints.

Must be stoked with his options.
WCE Bottom & rebuilding, Saints Literally emptying the bank to get anyone they can through the door.

 

[Garters]

Have you seen him play??

Don't worry about that.

 

[BlueTongue]

Getable players who would make an immediate impact I would be having a crack at;

MIDS
Brayden Fiorini

8

Brayden Fiorini

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.9

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

9.1

5star

M

4.7

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

16.3

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

5.3

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

3star

CL

0.7

3star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.2

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

4.2

5star

CL

3.2

5star

- Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025
Kamdyn McIntosh

33

Kamdyn Mcintosh

Age

31

Ht

191cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.9

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.8

3star

D

13.8

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.4

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.2

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

18.6

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

6.0

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.4

4star

- Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025
Adam Treloar

1

Adam Treloar

Age

32

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.2

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

15.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

30.3

5star

K

16.3

5star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.3

4star

CL

5.8

5star

D

18.0

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.6

4star

- Contract Status: Out of contract at the end of 2025

DEFENDERS
Lachlan Jones - Contract Status: Out of contract at the end of 2026
Jake Lloyd

44

Jake Lloyd

Age

32

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.4

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

9.0

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

403.9

5star

D

23.4

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

9.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.9

3star

MG

403.9

5star

D

23.2

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

9.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

357.4

5star

- Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025
Jason Johannisen

39

Jason Johannisen

Age

33

Ht

181cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.2

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

7.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

418.9

5star

D

16.3

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.9

3star

MG

283.1

4star

D

15.6

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.6

4star

- Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025

Jake Lloyd

44

Jake Lloyd

Age

32

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.4

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

9.0

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

403.9

5star

D

23.4

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

9.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.9

3star

MG

403.9

5star

D

23.2

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

9.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

357.4

5star

a bit 'iffy' and Jones Still contracted but VG defender

 

[Benaly28]

Getable players who would make an immediate impact I would be having a crack at;

MIDS
Brayden Fiorini - Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025
Kamdyn McIntosh - Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025
Adam Treloar - Contract Status: Out of contract at the end of 2025

DEFENDERS
Lachlan Jones - Contract Status: Out of contract at the end of 2026
Jake Lloyd - Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025
Jason Johannisen - Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025

Jake Lloyd a bit 'iffy' and Jones Still contracted but VG defender

Fiorini out of that lot.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Getable players who would make an immediate impact I would be having a crack at;

MIDS
Brayden Fiorini - Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025
Kamdyn McIntosh - Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025
Adam Treloar - Contract Status: Out of contract at the end of 2025

DEFENDERS
Lachlan Jones - Contract Status: Out of contract at the end of 2026
Jake Lloyd - Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025
Jason Johannisen - Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025

Jake Lloyd a bit 'iffy' and Jones Still contracted but VG defender

Treloar?

 

[Aphrodite]

Can’t archive paywalls anymore but basically re TDK, Bassat says …

“Tom De Koning

12

Tom De Koning

Age

26

Ht

201cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

2star

HO

1.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

1.5

5star

is not quite as high as has been represented and we don’t have him yet so he’s no part of our salary cap if that doesn’t happen,”

 

[BlueTongue]

Can’t archive paywalls anymore but basically re TDK, Bassat says …

I like that message but they'll probably die with their boots on

 

[BlueTongue]

Treloar?

If his body is not totally cooked I'm thinking we could do with his burst pace and delivery to the chest of big H (because we don't currently have anyone capable of putting it out in space in front of him except Williams). at 32 we may get 2 years.

 

[Red Bull]

Fiorini … every bloody year

 

[BlueTongue]

View attachment 2400469

Fiorini … every bloody year

But this year UFA!

 

[katmanblue]

If his body is not totally cooked I'm thinking we could do with his burst pace and delivery to the chest of big H (because we don't currently have anyone capable of putting it out in space in front of him except Williams). at 32 we may get 2 years.

On a modest contract

 

[Red Bull]

But this year UFA!

Wonder what Tomlinson’s doing …

 

[TheThunderboltKid]

Getable players who would make an immediate impact I would be having a crack at;

MIDS
Brayden Fiorini - Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025
Kamdyn McIntosh - Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025
Adam Treloar - Contract Status: Out of contract at the end of 2025

DEFENDERS
Lachlan Jones - Contract Status: Out of contract at the end of 2026
Jake Lloyd - Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025
Jason Johannisen - Contract Status: UFA at the end of 2025

Jake Lloyd a bit 'iffy' and Jones Still contracted but VG defender

I'm sorry but these are horrible suggestions

 

[Benaly28]

I’d be going after Davies from the suns,looks the goods.

 

[Gointocarlton]

Wonder what Tomlinson’s doing …

Fyfe?

 

[Red Bull]

Heard Weitering this morning on the radio with father Whateley.
Sounded pretty definitive about blokes who want out.
Curnow may well get his wish and open up new avenues for Carlton in doing so.
Don’t look back …

 

[carlton_99]

Can’t archive paywalls anymore but basically re TDK, Bassat says …

So 1.75M instead of 1.8M. Bargain!

 

[Blue_Fusion]

For us to move forward, we have to move on from some proven, overpaid underperformers... we just have to.

Charlie played like he did not gaf whatsoever at times this year. When your team is struggling, they'd be looking for their leadership group to step up... now Charlie of course was not alone on this front... but he was shocking for the most part...

If he is testing the waters, then get rid of him... strike while the iron is hot... because it's rapidly cooling...

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

For us to move forward, we have to move on from some proven, overpaid underperformers... we just have to.

Charlie played like he did not gaf whatsoever at times this year. When your team is struggling, they'd be looking for their leadership group to step up... now Charlie of course was not alone on this front... but he was shocking for the most part...

If he is testing the waters, then get rid of him... strike while the iron is hot... because it's rapidly cooling...

No we don’t have to.

Charlie played like a guy who didn’t have a pre-season and you could tell all season he wasn’t right. Making him the scapegoat of our problems is wrong and lazy.

For us to move forward we need to address our needs by making smart decisions, we need to bring in fresh assistants who will update the game plan to a modern style and we need to build around our elite players while also keeping them fit. The answer is not trading Charlie, Walshy, Harry, Crippa or Weiters.

Good clubs don’t do that.

 

[Red Bull]

No we don’t have to.

Charlie played like a guy who didn’t have a pre-season and you could tell all season he wasn’t right. Making him the scapegoat of our problems is wrong and lazy.

For us to move forward we need to address our needs by making smart decisions, we need to bring in fresh assistants who will update the game plan to a modern style and we need to build around our elite players while also keeping them fit. The answer is not trading Charlie, Walshy, Harry, Crippa or Weiters.

Good clubs don’t do that.

Have a listen to Weitering this morning re blokes that want out.
I doubt that he’d be that definitive publicly without the club’s imprimatur.
The club have stated they need to get busy.
Too do so they’ll need currency, both in trade capital and salary cap space.
Join the dots and don’t look back …

 

[Gointocarlton]

No we don’t have to.

Charlie played like a guy who didn’t have a pre-season and you could tell all season he wasn’t right. Making him the scapegoat of our problems is wrong and lazy.

For us to move forward we need to address our needs by making smart decisions, we need to bring in fresh assistants who will update the game plan to a modern style and we need to build around our elite players while also keeping them fit. The answer is not trading Charlie, Walshy, Harry, Crippa or Weiters.

Good clubs don’t do that.

Charlie reportedly wants a change though, we aren't shopping him around. My theory is that the cat got out of the bag before he wanted it to and had to back track. The club have said he isn't up for trade but make no mistake, if the right deal presents itself, they will look at it (given he wants a change which by default means he isn't all in with us).

Re his form, if he was hampered, underprepared or injured he shouldn't have been playing.