List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[Blue and Silver]

Without knowing the in's and out's of contract status. I'm very surprised that the following have survived.
Fog - Durdin - Binns - Acers - Monahan - Duffy

All are contracted except the Irish lads, who might be decided on a little later

 

[BlueLocke]

I’ll be shocked if we don’t trade Charlie tbh

Be interesting to see if this plays out like Papley in 2019 or Houston last year.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Be interesting to see if this plays out like Papley in 2019 or Houston last year.

He has wanted out of our club for a while now and it appears the Swans are extremely keen.

It will get done but I think there will be more than just the 2 clubs involved. Will happen on the last day of the trade period imo

 

[Blue and Silver]

I have seen this movie before.

Charlie is getting traded this year or next.

End of an era in a way.

 

[luke livingston seagull]

I’ll be shocked if we don’t trade Charlie tbh

Really? Think of what he is worth to the club in membership / merchandise alone. Not saying that’s how I think decisions should be made, but reality is it’s a big factor.

 

[Aphrodite]

Sorry to intrude..but Lemmey sacking means there is a zero chance Curnow gets traded. Absolutely zero.
Harry is an ongoing slight risk (mental battles) so no way you would have sacked Lemmey if there was even a 1% chance of CC leaving.
Just an opinion.
Im a big Charlie fan.
Peace.

Are you a 'medical expert'

 

[Big Delut]

Houston was OOC. Papley wasn't. Two different situations entirely.

Houston was contracted for another 4 years when he left Port

 

[Stamos]

Houston was OOC. Papley wasn't. Two different situations entirely.

Actually, Houston was also contracted, until 27.

 

[Wickzki]

Houston was contracted for another 4 years when he left Port

I'm a dickhead.

Emo and angry today.

 

[Aphrodite]

Which players on the list are currently not contracted?

As of today:-


2025
3. Jesse Motlop
11. Mitch McGovern
17. Brodie Kemp
26. Nick Haynes
34. Rob Monahan (International Rookie Cat B)
38. Will White (Pre-Season SSP Rookie 2025) ?
41. Matt Duffy (International Rookie Cat B) ?
44. Francis Evans (Pre-Season SSP Rookie 2025) ?
45. Flynn Young (MSD Rookie 2025) ?

 

[Big Delut]

Actually, Houston was also contracted, until 27.

2028

 

[jezza25]

Blues star Curnow’s trade request denied

Carlton superstar Charlie Curnow’s request for a trade away from the Blues has been flatly rejected by the club.

www.theage.com.au

Is it fact that Charlie asked out again or just media speculation ?

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

As of today:-


2025
3. Jesse Motlop
11. Mitch McGovern
17. Brodie Kemp
26. Nick Haynes
34. Rob Monahan (International Rookie Cat B)
38. Will White (Pre-Season SSP Rookie 2025) ?
41. Matt Duffy (International Rookie Cat B) ?
44. Francis Evans (Pre-Season SSP Rookie 2025) ?
45. Flynn Young (MSD Rookie 2025) ?

SAVE WILLY WHITEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[Blue and Silver]

Sounds like a three-cornered contest to get us the best deal for Charlie.

Wonder if we've reached out to some stars we want to pilfer to gauge interest.

If Charlie becomes Butters or Gulden, then the club could sell that

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Silvagni Fantasia Cincotta

Lot of pressure on the Camporeale boys now.

Unfortunately not up to it.

 

[you yang blues]

Thinking deeper on Raz and Cincm it's these types that almost always get cut first when a team no longer believes they're in a window.

Older players - 29 and 28 respectively - who are fringe players at best and who lack the upside of younger prospects who need game time in order to progress.

This is an indicator to me that were going into a longer term reset regardless of whether or not we move on any of our stars.

I'm still disappointed that Lemmey didn't earn an opportunity. I don't watch the VFL nearly as closely as others do but was he really that far back from earning s chance when our season was over so esrly? Or did they stamp his papers ss early as I thought they may have?

Either way we're probably 2 young developing talls short at the very least

I too am disappointed Lemmey being delisted. Did kick goals in the vfl. Key position player. Never given a chance at senior level. Player development at Carlton? Only now in the last few weeks. And what a difference it made.

 

[agro]

Factoring in TDK, Silvagni and now Lemmey.

Carlton at the AFL National Draft since Patrick Cripps 2013 AFL National Draft.

Draft Year	Currently on List	Games	No longer at Carlton	Games
2013	Patrick Cripps	230	Cameron Giles Nick Holman	0 9
2014	-		Blaine Boekhorst Dillon Viojo-Rainbow Clem Smith Jayden Foster	25 0 7 0
2015	Jacob Weitering Harry McKay Charlie Curnow	204 140 149	David Cuningham Jack Silvagni	58 128
2016	-		Sam Petrevski-Seton Zac Fisher Harrison Macreadie Cam Polson Tom Williamson Pat Kerr	94 107 9 19 44 4
2017	-		Paddy Dow Lochie O'Brien Tom De Koning Angus Schumacher Jarrod Garlett	73 66 100 1 13
2018	Sam Walsh	133	Liam Stocker Finbar O'Dwyer Ben Silvagni	28 0 0
2019	Brodie Kemp	49	Sam Philp Sam Ramsay	2 0
2020	Corey Durdin	64	Jack Carroll	21
2021	Jesse Motlop	63
2022	Ollie Hollands Lachie Cowan Jaxon Binns	65 38 8	Harry Lemmey	0
2023	Ashton Moir Billy Wilson	11 4
2024	Jagga Smith Harry O'Farrell Ben Camporeale Lucas Camporeale	0 6 0 3
TOTAL	17 players	1167 games (68.6)	26 players	808 games (31.07)
Removing Too Early (last 3 drafts)	8 players	1031 games (128.9)	25 players	808 games (32.32)

The failures of 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019, is why our list is unbalanced and lacking in depth.

 

[ctwenty1]

Is it fact that Charlie asked out again or just media speculation ?

Reckon via his manager

Anyway- Charlie is required and contracted

 

[Blue and Silver]

The failures of 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019, is why our list is unbalanced and lacking in depth.

2014 is abysmal.

Shows how long a legacy a bad draft can have

 

[Jimmae]

Correct moves so far given the FA losses, but hopefully we can tee up some depth trades out the door to take advantage of what should be a fairly healthy DFA/budget trade market.

Finlayson would have been a great get, but his wife's cancer diagnosis and treatment more than reasonably rule out a move to Victoria, probably any AFL move at all.

Surprised Monohan wasn't announced. There will probably be 1 or 2 more delisted pending the FA/trade period also i suspect.

He's on a completely separate rookie list, so it will come down to how we evaluate players like Gresham, Clark, and any international candidates we've identified.

Monahan was coming into his own this season, appeared to have shed some weight and got through a lot more running in games. Has the athletic profile and skills, game sense was increasing and next step would be getting more expansive with his passing by foot and more involved in intercepting and marking the ball.

I think we might stick with him unless Clark bobs up and does something amazing in the next 2 months.

 

[Wickzki]

The failures of 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019, is why our list is unbalanced and lacking in depth.

Only Walsh a can't miss success. Kemp the only other survivor.

Only huge loss is TDK. A few passes but nothing significant.

22 total selections.

 

[Big Delut]

It’s a fair point, i raised that free agent compo shouldn’t be in the first round, have band 1 start at pick 19.

That's how it's done in MLB.

 

[Jimmae]

Only Walsh a can't miss success. Kemp the only other survivor.

Only huge loss is TDK. A few passes but nothing significant.

22 total selections.

Too many wild selections in that 10-45 range, which reeks of SOS and Brodie's careers.

SOS compounded that with his mature rookie plays.

 

[Wickzki]

Too many wild selections in that 10-35 range, which reeks of SOS and Brodie's careers.

Same strategy they had with trades as well and SOS has taken to St. Kilda (especially with their current targets).

Dodoro has had a similar mindset.

Lots of lottery tickets. If they pan out (TDK) they hit the jackpot but they don't account for their misses.

 

[BlueLocke]

"Speed and ball use" were the priority areas of need according to Voss; just patiently waiting for some players with those attributes to nominate a trade to us.