List Mgmt. 2025 List Management

[serial_thrilla]

 

[Dayts]

Speaking of smalls
Looks like kozz ripped brizzy a new one

 

[stax on the mull]

sorted!
Freo to best the Giants by 31!

That's why you're the GOAT.

 

[EastcoastDocker]

We would need walker against all the top teams

Pies to play on Elliot, Schultz or bobby hill
Brisbane to play on Cameron
Hawks to play on the Watson
Suns to play on long

 

[Midnite65]

We would need walker against all the top teams

Pies to play on Elliot, Schultz or bobby hill
Brisbane to play on Cameron
Hawks to play on the Watson
Suns to play on long

Long and Elliott don't really play as smalls

 

[Freo Big Fella]

From the team on the weekend, who would you drop, who do you think they'd drop?

Worner. Absolutely no shade on the Swede - he's really come on strongly - but we can't have a backline where no-one under 195cm is capable of man-on-man defence.

 

[go_the_dockers]

A fit and firing Darcy is B22 no question as well.

I think Voss offers more as a forward, and Jackson offers more in the ruck.

 

[guidodp15]

Delist

Fyfe
Walters
Delean
Aish
Erasmus - if he is not playing this week, then he won't play for Freo. A new coach, may have a different opinion.
Brodie - if he is not playing this week, then he won't play for Freo. No point wasting list space, keeping him until his contract expires.
Jones - delist - already replaced
Liam Reidy - replace with a mature age ruck

Keep I guess (1 year deal)
Narkle - Keep as depth. Don't pay him much
Aiden Riddle

2 years - don't over pay any of these 3 (300k to 400k I would think), and a max of 2 years for all of them. All of them could be out of the 22 next year if they don't improve. (I expect Dudley to improve)
Isaiah Dudley
Karl Worner
Jeremy Sharp

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I think the 8 players delisted are pretty obvious. I would like to keep Erasmus, but if he doesn't play then the club must disagree.

Replace Reidy with the best mature age ruck you can find.

The question I have is how we can replace the 7 players with 4 draft picks we have in the first 3 rounds.
In reality we have a few options

1. we will get our first pick (hopefully) and then Whan will wipe out most of the remaining draft hand.
2. We trade away our first pick, then Whan will wipe out most of the remaining draft hand.
3. Whan goes before our first pick, leaving us with our 2nd and 2 3rd round picks.


The question I have, with any of these options we are 3 or 4 picks short of what we need to replace the players. How can we get creative to fill in the other gaps.

First of all dudley is great as is don't think he is in danger of losing his spot on the list. Effort is always there and the way he can find the ball at his size less than 10 games in is sensational.

You cannot delist 8 players in one year and expect to have picks wiped out in the draft for an NGA bid

Fyfe and Walters will more than certainly retire. Aish is out of contract and Delean probably won't get another crack which is a shame but his draft highlight package was great.
Jones probably goes like you said but Ras will get enough games to want to give it another go with us and Brodie sees out his contract

Did chuckle:

Below is a hit-list of coaching talent and player profiles Fremantle can realistically pursue in the 2025 off-season if the brief is to reproduce Richmond’s 2017 makeover: inject speed, forward-half pressure and a simpler, turnover-driven game model.

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1. Coaching & High-Performance Additions​

Priority	Candidate	Current/Recent Role	Why they fit the “Richmond 2017” brief	Contract status*
#1	Josh Carr	Port Adelaide midfield coach	Renowned for building a contest-plus-pressure engine room; premiership mid, ex-Dockers assistant, commands instant respect. Port’s stoppage/forward-half pressure numbers have leapt since he returned.	Under contract to 2025 but flagged as next in line for senior job; Port may let him go for promotion to “senior assistant” at Freo.
#2	Ben Rutten	Richmond coaching performance manager	Ran Richmond’s defensive unit in 2017; now oversees coach education, heavily focussed on creating “one voice” drills and turnover scoring layers. Could reprise the ‘team-defence architect’ role that freed Hardwick to attack.	Signed at Punt Rd, but not line-specific; Fremantle could offer a bigger remit (defence + culture lead).
#3	Hayden Skipworth	Collingwood forward-pressure/transition coach	Key lieutenant in the AFL’s #1 pressure side; Collingwood rank top-three for points from turnovers three years running. Skipworth’s drills mirror Richmond’s 2017 chaos blueprint.	Linked to senior jobs; open to a move west for step-up title.
#4	Brett Montgomery	GWS defensive transition coach	GWS went from 11th to top-four for metres-gained differential under his watch. Adds slingshot expertise that Freo lacks.	Contracted but has signalled interest in fresh challenge.
Wildcard	Jacob Surjan	ex-North Adelaide senior coach (SANFL)	Elite standards-driven, Port background, freshly available after shock SANFL sacking – perfect development/forward-pressure specialist to complement AFL panel.	Available now.

*All contract statuses as reported May 2025.

What this does:

• Carr + Rutten replicate the Richmond “inside pressure” (Prestia/Cotchin) and “team defence” (Rutten 2017) brains trust.
• Skipworth/Montgomery plug Freo’s biggest tactical hole – fast front-half turnover attack.
• Surjan gives the forward-craft group a manic standards driver (Port’s small forwards averaged 18 forward-50 tackles per game in 2024 with him consulting).

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2. Player Acquisition Targets​

2.1 Free-Agency & Low-Cost Trades (2025 FA class)

Type	Player	Club	Key Metrics 2024	Why Fremantle?
UFA	Jack Petruccelle	West Coast	Fastest top speed in league 2021-24 (34.9 km/h) and still 27; 4.7 pressure acts inside 50 per game	Genuine burst-to-space the Dockers forward line lacks. Cheap because Eagles list squeeze.
RFA	Ed Richards	Western Bulldogs	480 m gained, 6 rebound-50s, 10 intercepts + mid-speed burst games in 2025 R1-R8; proven two-way wing/HBF	Exactly the “Houli-type” running half-back Richmond added internally.
UFA	Laitham Vandermeer	Western Bulldogs	18.4 pressure acts & 70 metres per minute when on ground; elite repeat sprint profile	Plug-and-play small-forward pressure + overlap run.
Trade (low pick)	Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	22 forward-50 tackles, rated top-five for “retention after front-half turnover”	On outer behind Melbourne’s forward mix; high-IQ connector akin to Daniel Rioli 2017.
Trade (mid pick)	Jed McEntee	Port Adelaide	6.1 tackles, 25 pressure acts per 100 minutes; plays the hard-edge Butler/Castagna role	Port’s forward line depth means he’s gettable.

2.2 Draft Focus​

• Round 1 priority: a “chaos winger” – look at WA under-18 speedster Jaxon Allston (averaging 23 disposals, 5.8 tackles and 90th-percentile sprint speed in WAFL Colts).
• Later rounds: target mature-age VFL/SANFL pressure forwards (Richmond elevated Butler & Castagna from late picks/rookies). Use Surjan’s network in SA to mine SANFL.

2.3 Internal Role Tweaks​

• Luke Jackson – play 70 % forward, 30 % ruck to anchor chaos ball (as Tom Lynch did).
• Shai Bolton – split 55/45 mid-forward, start him at centre bounces then stay forward to spearhead turnover press (Richmond weaponised Martin this way).
• Caleb Serong – give him “first give, then surge forward” licence; he averages 29 disposals but only 340 m gained – flip that ratio.

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3. How These Moves Map onto the Richmond Blueprint​

Richmond Lever (2016 → 17)	Fremantle Equivalent (2024 → 26)
Prestia/Caddy/Nankervis trade trio – added pace, depth, aggression	Target Petruccelle, Richards, Vandermeer for pace + aerial run; draft Allston; swap Lloyd Meek-style fringe pick for McEntee as tackling small
Leppitsch (team defence) + Caracella (ball movement)	Ben Rutten (team defence) + Skipworth/Montgomery (front-half pressure & slingshot)
Balme stabilises, Hardwick empowered	Josh Carr steps in as senior assistant to lighten load on Longmuir, bringing hard-edge contest culture
Shift to turnover-first game plan, clear role definitions	2025-26 pre-season: mandate “+10 forward-half turnover differential”, simplify ball use (long first, surge ground-ball), select best 22 on speed/pressure not disposal totals

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4. Implementation Timeline​

1. June-July 2025 – initiate discussions with out-of-contract assistants (Carr, Skipworth).
2. August – table multi-year pitch to Richards & Petruccelle before FA window.
3. Trade period – package a future R2 + fringe mid for Spargo or McEntee; keep R1 for chaos winger in draft.
4. November pre-season – Carr/Rutten lead “pressure camp”: every drill has turnover KPI; players wear GPS tags for sprint repeat counts (Richmond called this “Contest Chaos index”).
5. March 2026 – roll out new forward-half swarm: Bolton + Vandermeer + Walters (mentor) start inside 50; Petruccelle high half-forward; Serong/Brayshaw rotate forward after CBs.

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5. Bottom Line​

• Personnel: The Dockers don’t need a list overhaul; they need three genuine speed/pressure players and two coaches steeped in turnover footy.
• Game model: Adopt a “kick long, lock in” mantra; measure success by forward-half time-in-possession and points from turnovers, not raw disposal count.
• Culture: Empower Carr/Rutten to set ruthless standards, free Longmuir to focus on relationships – exactly how Hardwick flourished post-2016.

If Fremantle executes even 70 % of this plan, the 2026 Dockers’ profile (age 25-ish, 85-game average, top-six pressure metrics) will mirror Richmond 2017 almost to the decimal. That’s the shortest path from “under extreme pressure” to legitimate premiership threat in two seasons.

Isn't Carr confirmed for the Port job?

 

[go_the_dockers]

First of all dudley is great as is don't think he is in danger of losing his spot on the list. Effort is always there and the way he can find the ball at his size less than 10 games in is sensational.

You cannot delist 8 players in one year and expect to have picks wiped out in the draft for an NGA bid

Fyfe and Walters will more than certainly retire. Aish is out of contract and Delean probably won't get another crack which is a shame but his draft highlight package was great.
Jones probably goes like you said but Ras will get enough games to want to give it another go with us and Brodie sees out his contract

Why keep Brodie on the list if you won't play him. He won't play another game for Fremantle, so you may as well delist him.

If Ras gets enough games, and can see a path forward he will stay. 2 or 3 weeks ago, I thought he wouldn't play for us and would ask for a trade.

As I said, I am happy to give Dudley 2 years. I wouldn't want to give him 5 years like we did with Brodie, which I thought was a mistake at the time, and now looks to be a horrible call.

I also never said Dudley would lose his spot on the list, just that he could lose his spot in the best 22.
If we get Pickett, Sturt is fit and you can only play 3 of Pickett, Sturt, Freddy, Dudley and Switta who makes the team?

Dudley needs to finish a lot better than he did on the weekend to hold his spot.

 

[Silencer83]

Why keep Brodie on the list if you won't play him. He won't play another game for Fremantle, so you may as well delist him.

Because he is contracted, and no other clubs were interested last off season.

Delisting players in contract and paying them out only happens when there is a salary cap squeeze.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Because he is contracted, and no other clubs were interested last off season.

Delisting players in contract and paying them out only happens when there is a salary cap squeeze.

If we have a salary cap squeeze, we keep him on our list.

I would rather delist him and either sign a train on player or MSD pick. He is wasted space.

If you disagree with that, and think he could be best 22 that is fine. Agree to disagree then.

 

[Taylor]

We could delist a contracted player with the intention of selecting them as a rookie listed player, purely to open the prospect of more picks at the draft to match bids, either our own or to help other clubs hide picks for their bids.

That's where Brodie moving off the primary list would come into consideration to me.

 

[guidodp15]

Why keep Brodie on the list if you won't play him. He won't play another game for Fremantle, so you may as well delist him.

If Ras gets enough games, and can see a path forward he will stay. 2 or 3 weeks ago, I thought he wouldn't play for us and would ask for a trade.

As I said, I am happy to give Dudley 2 years. I wouldn't want to give him 5 years like we did with Brodie, which I thought was a mistake at the time, and now looks to be a horrible call.

I also never said Dudley would lose his spot on the list, just that he could lose his spot in the best 22.
If we get Pickett, Sturt is fit and you can only play 3 of Pickett, Sturt, Freddy, Dudley and Switta who makes the team?

Dudley needs to finish a lot better than he did on the weekend to hold his spot.

Because he would get a game should there be a disaster and i find it bizzare that he hasn't had a go. We made finals with him in the guts everyweek. I do know his limitations and i am not in the "free will brodie " fan club but jsut give him 2-3 weeks to actually test the theory out. I think Sharp needs a stiny at Peel. Play Johnson on the wing and put brodie in the guts.
Sturt is best 22 100% and i would drop/trade switta he is not the player he was 2 years ago and if we get Pickett obviously him over dudley but dudley is always going to be a cheap contract and i think everyone of us would always have him on the list as depth at a minimum.

 

[Spirit Level]

I always thought Jackson could be that true around the ground utility (like Kouta) which would require keeping Darcy to free him from having to get to ruck contests all the time.

Our best hope is that Darcy stays and reaches his potential IMO

 

[Hamann188]

I always thought Jackson could be that true around the ground utility (like Kouta) which would require keeping Darcy to free him from having to get to ruck contests all the time.

Our best hope is that Darcy stays and reaches his potential IMO

That will happen, we've just gotta be patient and ease Darcy back into the 22 when he's 100%

As a few people have said, he was rushed back in originally because LJ dropped with the hammy.

I'll give the selectors the benefit of the doubt on that one and believe that it was a rock and a hard place sort of situation, either play an underdone Big Sean or an average form Reidy. Neither probably appealed but playing Darce seemed the lesser of 2 evils.

Hopefully it doesn't happen again and Swaggy can spend a month or so in the WAFL building up fitness again.

End of the day, and I'm sorry to those who disagree, but I'm taking Dogga and a fit and firing Darcy over Dogga and Paddy Voss as backup ruckmen.

 

[Wizard]

I always thought Jackson could be that true around the ground utility (like Kouta) which would require keeping Darcy to free him from having to get to ruck contests all the time.

Our best hope is that Darcy stays and reaches his potential IMO

I think he's a ruckman.

He is a tremendous athlete for a 199cm monster, he isn't a tremendous athlete when compared to guys 185 - 190cm which is why i don't think he would work as a midfielder in the long term.
His strength IMO is that his athleticism is far superior to his opponents when playing ruck.

The other thing that i think we shouldn't discount here is that his body has really changed, he is far more physically imposing now then he was 12 months ago. He isn't getting pushed aside in ruck contests by monsters like he used to he is physically capable against guys like Briggs and Meek now when he previously wasn't

 

[swanny1234]

I always thought Jackson could be that true around the ground utility (like Kouta) which would require keeping Darcy to free him from having to get to ruck contests all the time.

Our best hope is that Darcy stays and reaches his potential IMO

Jackson is a Ruckman, it's his best position, just play him there. Not sure where that leaves Darcy, but it's super obvious to me Jacko is the guy.

 

[Wizard]

Jackson is a Ruckman, it's his best position, just play him there. Not sure where that leaves Darcy, but it's super obvious to me Jacko is the guy.

I think we just need to try and ship him off, we are likely going to be giving him away for nothing and potentially paying a % of his salary but i also think thats a better option then him playing at Peel.

I think there is q few clubs that would be happy to have him in the right circumstances. Our opponent this weekend would be front and centre on that list.

 

[Taylor]

I think we just need to try and ship him off, we are likely going to be giving him away for nothing and potentially paying a % of his salary but i also think thats a better option then him playing at Peel.

I think there is q few clubs that would be happy to have him in the right circumstances. Our opponent this weekend would be front and centre on that list.

Every team will gladly pay $700k to cover all of Sean Darcy's salary if Fremantle are short sighted enough to let his name cross onto the table.

There will be a side offering more to lure him away.

 

[Wizard]

Every team will gladly pay $700k to cover all of Sean Darcy's salary if Fremantle are short sighted enough to let his name cross onto the table.

There will be a side offering more to lure him away.

Assuming we have a fit Jackson and a fit Darcy it becomes pretty ackward. It's a lot of salary to have leading the ruck at Peel........

 

[gungho]

Retire: Walters, Fyfe, Aish.
Delist: Delean, Reidy (tough I know but there will probably be a better mature age ruck option out there) Jones (tough on the kid. Maybe re-rookie him sometime down the line if a spot comes up).

That's a grand total of 6 changes. We do need to have a serious conversation with Sean Darcy

4

Sean Darcy

Age

27

Ht

203cm

Wt

111kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

28.8

5star

D

6.8

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

20.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

6.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

32.0

5star

about his best options going forward but I'm not sure this club has the balls to do it. I don't see any of Erasmus, Dudley, Narkle, Brodie (who is still contracted) or Sharp going anywhere.

On a general note I don't think we have been ruthless enough in list management. Walters and Fyfe should have been on rotating 1 year contracts, no way Brodie should have got 5, and Darcy, Cox and Ryan were given way too long.

 

[Taylor]

Assuming we have a fit Jackson and a fit Darcy it becomes pretty ackward. It's a lot of salary to have leading the ruck at Peel........

I don't think Darcy would be playing at Peel. There's no guarantee Jackson will be playing at Freo at all in a year or two.

Darcy can ruck around the ground, Jackson at the bounce, then they flip around forward and mid as required.

 

[Footskill]

Listening to Craig O with duff..he thinks Darcy should do mini pre season then play after bye to get his fitness and hardness up rather than play WAFL
. Which is better

 

[swanny1234]

I think we just need to try and ship him off, we are likely going to be giving him away for nothing and potentially paying a % of his salary but i also think thats a better option then him playing at Peel.

I think there is q few clubs that would be happy to have him in the right circumstances. Our opponent this weekend would be front and centre on that list.

Feels a bit like it's Collingwood and Grundy sort of areas doesn't it? He's too good to sit on our list as a backup, but for mine is behind Jacko and the 2 ruck setup just doesn't work for me.

Pies traded Grundy and won a flag, as much as it's hard to get rid of a prized asset, I get the feeling it's the way forward, particularly if it helped lay the foundation for getting Kozzie in.

 

[swanny1234]

I don't think Darcy would be playing at Peel. There's no guarantee Jackson will be playing at Freo at all in a year or two.

Darcy can ruck around the ground, Jackson at the bounce, then they flip around forward and mid as required.

I think if you back Jackson in as your guy, he's more likely to stay - if you simply stick with the status quo, he probably looks at replacing Gawn at Melb eventually.

 

[Taylor]

I think if you back Jackson in as your guy, he's more likely to stay - if you simply stick with the status quo, he probably looks at replacing Gawn at Melb eventually.

I don't think his motivation for leaving is anything football related so selling Darcy this year and "sticking tough" on Jackson for another year could see us going into 2027 with both of them elsewhere and a bunch of picks, still the youngest team on the grass.

We already have Darcy, we already have Jackson. We have three first round picks to trade end of this season. We don't need to sell anything and can afford to wait.

We sure as hell won't be interested in trading Darcy next year if he is fit and Jackson wants to leave. They'll make it about role or positions etc but it's family.