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[serial_thrilla]

 

[DragoDelph]

Or just get rheemed.

The tagline of this trade period.

Tonga Bob and co.

Update the thread title please: “Walls gets Rheemed”

 

[Wallsy78]

The narrative that we've just thrown away a 2nd round pick for no reason is just straight bs. In strong drafts that have depth of top end talent in the top 15 picks, sure pick 12 could net you pick 19 and 23 on its own. But that's not the case here. Like why do people think the relative value of picks 12, 19, 23 and 33 are the same in every draft? These aren't just numbers it's a player pool which is completely different every year.

Last year we wouldn't have had to add 33 because clubs were fighting to trade up the order. There's none of that this year.

Also, there is 3 picks in between the 12 and 19 (now 13 and 20) that will dissolve with academy selections, Brisbane's 17 and Gold Coasts 15 and 18. So realistically the difference between 12 and 19 is only really 12 and 16 or 4 spots. So 12 has dropped back 4 spots and 33 has improved 10 spots if we ignore we no longer have that pick and judge the pick swap on its merits.

All this fuss is quite ridiculous when you realize we only dropped back 4 spots

 

[millsy]

We are annoyed because we got involved and helped WC and Brisbane get what they wanted and made a loss. We could have sat it out and found a pick swap elsewhere to satisfy Melbourne for McVee. Instead it looks like we took the fast option instead of the smart one.

This is the bit I'm not sure on.

Looking at the board right now, who gives us a better deal in pick swaps, to enable McVee?

 

[Alfonz]

Picked some very decent players with crap picks though

Can’t argue with that

He joined in 2017, and in the 8 drafts since then Brisbane have had 3 good picks outside the top 20 ... Payne (54), Answerth (55) and Morris (31). Hope I didn't miss anyone. Hardly anything to write home about for picking late gems. His picking in the top 20 (ignoring the academy/FS rorts) for Brisbane has been very good though.

He was at GC before Brisbane and did a pretty awful job, culminating in a departing masterpiece of Ainsworth, Scrimshaw, Brodie, Bowes with 4 x top 10 picks.

 

[go_the_dockers]

The narrative that we've just thrown away a 2nd round pick for no reason is just straight bs. In strong drafts that have depth of top end talent in the top 15 picks, sure pick 12 could net you pick 19 and 23 on its own. But that's not the case here. Like why do people think the relative value of picks 12, 19, 23 and 33 are the same in every draft? These aren't just numbers it's a player pool which is completely different every year.

Last year we wouldn't have had to add 33 because clubs were fighting to trade up the order. There's none of that this year.

Also, there is 3 picks in between the 12 and 19 (now 13 and 20) that will dissolve with academy selections, Brisbane's 17 and Gold Coasts 15 and 18. So realistically the difference between 12 and 19 is only really 12 and 16 or 4 spots. So 12 has dropped back 4 spots and 33 has improved 10 spots if we ignore we no longer have that pick and judge the pick swap on its merits.

All this fuss is quite ridiculous when you realize we only dropped back 4 spots

Lets hope GC and Brisbane don't trade those picks for later picks for more points. No clubs ever do this.

 

[Superkoops]

The narrative that we've just thrown away a 2nd round pick for no reason is just straight bs. In strong drafts that have depth of top end talent in the top 15 picks, sure pick 12 could net you pick 19 and 23 on its own. But that's not the case here. Like why do people think the relative value of picks 12, 19, 23 and 33 are the same in every draft? These aren't just numbers it's a player pool which is completely different every year.

Last year we wouldn't have had to add 33 because clubs were fighting to trade up the order. There's none of that this year.

Also, there is 3 picks in between the 12 and 19 (now 13 and 20) that will dissolve with academy selections, Brisbane's 17 and Gold Coasts 15 and 18. So realistically the difference between 12 and 19 is only really 12 and 16 or 4 spots. So 12 has dropped back 4 spots and 33 has improved 10 spots if we ignore we no longer have that pick and judge the pick swap on its merits.

All this fuss is quite ridiculous when you realize we only dropped back 4 spots

It was never 34 we threw away anyway. It was the later picks; 45 and 51.

Not sure kicked off this narrative about tossing a second away.

 

[Clems Knee]

The narrative that we've just thrown away a 2nd round pick for no reason is just straight bs. In strong drafts that have depth of top end talent in the top 15 picks, sure pick 12 could net you pick 19 and 23 on its own. But that's not the case here. Like why do people think the relative value of picks 12, 19, 23 and 33 are the same in every draft? These aren't just numbers it's a player pool which is completely different every year.

Last year we wouldn't have had to add 33 because clubs were fighting to trade up the order. There's none of that this year.

Also, there is 3 picks in between the 12 and 19 (now 13 and 20) that will dissolve with academy selections, Brisbane's 17 and Gold Coasts 15 and 18. So realistically the difference between 12 and 19 is only really 12 and 16 or 4 spots. So 12 has dropped back 4 spots and 33 has improved 10 spots if we ignore we no longer have that pick and judge the pick swap on its merits.

All this fuss is quite ridiculous when you realize we only dropped back 4 spots

Do you really want to extend the tantrum?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

It was never 34 we threw away anyway. It was the later picks; 45 and 51.

Not sure kicked off this narrative about tossing a second away.

Must. Resist. Correcting. Facts

Dont react Snuff, serenity now, serenity now

 

[freo_leo29]

This is the bit I'm not sure on.

Looking at the board right now, who gives us a better deal in pick swaps, to enable McVee?

Port just traded 29 for an f2 so we could have done that

F2 and Brodie for 29

Then we flip 33 and 50 for a future to a club chasing points, sometime between now and draft night

 

[lukedean16]

Just stfu about the trade. It’s over an done with not use talking for it or against it anymore it’s finished. Move on, sick of seeing people try and justify it a sick of seeing people complain like little bitches over it too.

 

[Quazar2]

Must. Resist. Correcting. Facts

Dont react Snuff, serenity now, serenity now

 

[DragoDelph]

Breathe deep. Seek peace.

 

[Superkoops]

Lets hope GC and Brisbane don't trade those picks for later picks for more points. No clubs ever do this.

They will need keep more first round picks than usual as the points required has changed. The discount is 10% (was previously 20%) and the value of points is less than before. The points value also falls away sharply after 35-40. GC will likely trade out some whether it be on draft night or earlier time will tell - for future picks.

They have a deal with Petracca which chew up some picks.

 

[Tonga Bob]

Tonga Bob and co.

Update the thread title please: “Walls gets Rheemed”

Oh God what now?

 

[David Bubb]

 

[Tonga Bob]

Must. Resist. Correcting. Facts

Dont react Snuff, serenity now, serenity now

Remember the story of Icarus

 

[Docker82]

Let's just trade Brodie for a F4 and be done will this trade period.

Let's face it we're lucky we're not paying Port Adelaide to take his wages on. Get him off our books before Port find something better to do with the list spot.

 

[Chris25]

The narrative that we've just thrown away a 2nd round pick for no reason is just straight bs. In strong drafts that have depth of top end talent in the top 15 picks, sure pick 12 could net you pick 19 and 23 on its own. But that's not the case here. Like why do people think the relative value of picks 12, 19, 23 and 33 are the same in every draft? These aren't just numbers it's a player pool which is completely different every year.

I like 12 and 33 for 19 and 23. I’d strongly consider that most years.

 

[Taylor]

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it changes things.

 

[apuchar]

So where is our gift from this friggin trade?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

The sky is blue I tell you BLUEEEEE!!!!!!

 

[millsy]

Port just traded 29 for an f2 so we could have done that

F2 and Brodie for 29

Then we flip 33 and 50 for a future to a club chasing points, sometime between now and draft night

So stick 29 on the table for McVee take it or leave it? That's fair, best possible result for us (assuming Dees take 29), preserves 13 (improves 7 spots on current). Keeps 33 and 50 in play for a cost of F2.

But ultimately Carlton offer that F2 and Port likely take Carlton's offer before ours irrespective.

 

[freo_leo29]

Port moving 46 into next year

Brodie to be done early next week

Looks like pick 80ish for Brodie lol

 

[Tonga Bob]

The sky is blue I tell you BLUEEEEE!!!!!!

Calm down Snuffly-duffly-duffly-duffly-duffly-duffly-duffly-duffly

 

[largebus]

The narrative that we've just thrown away a 2nd round pick for no reason is just straight bs. In strong drafts that have depth of top end talent in the top 15 picks, sure pick 12 could net you pick 19 and 23 on its own. But that's not the case here. Like why do people think the relative value of picks 12, 19, 23 and 33 are the same in every draft? These aren't just numbers it's a player pool which is completely different every year.

Last year we wouldn't have had to add 33 because clubs were fighting to trade up the order. There's none of that this year.

Also, there is 3 picks in between the 12 and 19 (now 13 and 20) that will dissolve with academy selections, Brisbane's 17 and Gold Coasts 15 and 18. So realistically the difference between 12 and 19 is only really 12 and 16 or 4 spots. So 12 has dropped back 4 spots and 33 has improved 10 spots if we ignore we no longer have that pick and judge the pick swap on its merits.

All this fuss is quite ridiculous when you realize we only dropped back 4 spots

Straight from the horse's mouth. You did the trades early so you spend the rest of the trade period laughing at all of our melts.

All Hail Wallsy