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Chris25 - have you seen Frank Szekely play at all?
25 years old (26 next year), but looks to be the type of player we are missing.
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25 years old (26 next year), but looks to be the type of player we are missing.
SANFL Showreel, R19: Frank Szekely highlights
Enjoy Frank Szekely's standout SANFL performance for North Adelaide
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Saw someone on Twitter saying that Pat Voss is gettable for other clubs this off season - apparently Nick Riewoldt had mail on agenda setters indicating as such. Probably makes sense - he’s clearly an AFL player and probably wants reassurance he won’t end up at peel
More worryingly Mitch Cleary says tidy on his podcast that his mail is that the Luke Jackson rumours just won’t go away and he isn’t ruling that deal out yet…
Cleary has no idea. That podcast is the absolute worst with that Homer Sam sniffing his own farts for 1 hour while he waxes lyrical about the most inane shit.
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The AFL now pays concussion insurance for all new contracts for the first 3 years of a contract. Eg if a career ends due to confusion the afl insurance pays out the contract not the club and none of that payment is on the salary cap. I think that makes Starcevich worth a 4 year deal with only one not covered by insurance.
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We have identified that we are lacking a big bodied mid to do the dirty work and protect our other mids. That role was meant to be filled by Fyfe but for obvious reasons that is no longer feasible. We therefore, have two options:
- Try to fill that vacant position with a player currently on our list (Young, O'Driscoll, Champan);
- Try to recruit a player in the offseason to fill that role.
- Bonus option: Jackson to become a full time midfielder?
If we choose option two, we will need to trade in an experience mid to replace Ras (imo). If Worpel is better then Ras at the role Ras plays then it's a no brainer (which I don't know if that's the case). We get an experienced mid which improves our list age. His job isn't to be better then Brayshaw.
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We would be remiss not to have made enquiries
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I believe the club still pay the player, not the AFL and the salary cap relief is as such:
1st year after retirement = 90% off the cap
2nd year after = 75% off the cap
3rd year after = 50% off the cap
The years after that are fully included in the salary cap.
It is percentages.
Something like 80 percent 1st year.
60 2nd etc.
But 4 years is right
As far as I am concerned , I rather keep Voss if it came to it and trade Amiss. Everyone saying there is a huge upside to Amiss, which very well maybe true. Remember Voss is only 1 month older than Amiss, so he too has a big upside. From my perspective Voss adds so much more vibrancy to the team , he's always involved , he makes sure he is ! He really lifts the team,so if a tall was to be left out of the 22, it should be Amiss, at least until he can find some more of the ball.
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Jye Amiss/ Patrick Voss
Marks:
3.4/2.8
Marks on lead:
0.9/0.8
Contested marks:
0.8/0.5
Marks inside fifty:
1.4/1.5
They aren't far apart, but for a guy so much stronger than Amiss, Voss doesn't take as many contested marks and he is not as mobile as Jye so he needs to be able to stand and grab. That isn't yet part of his game.
Voss has great potential, but if the side kicked the ball to Amiss half the times he is currently free of his man by a mile he would take twice as many marks a game as Voss.
The side really need to pull the trigger on quick ball movement to Amiss and put it out in front of him instead of above his head so he has to slow down and his opponent catches up.
It doesn't show on the replay but he is five to ten metres clear of his chasing defender and the kick comes in landing too far back, so he has to slow down, the opponent catches up and then hits the contest at speed so Jye is spoiled - this doesn't need to happen.
Marks:
3.4/2.8
Marks on lead:
0.9/0.8
Contested marks:
0.8/0.5
Marks inside fifty:
1.4/1.5
They aren't far apart, but for a guy so much stronger than Amiss, Voss doesn't take as many contested marks and he is not as mobile as Jye so he needs to be able to stand and grab. That isn't yet part of his game.
Voss has great potential, but if the side kicked the ball to Amiss half the times he is currently free of his man by a mile he would take twice as many marks a game as Voss.
The side really need to pull the trigger on quick ball movement to Amiss and put it out in front of him instead of above his head so he has to slow down and his opponent catches up.
It doesn't show on the replay but he is five to ten metres clear of his chasing defender and the kick comes in landing too far back, so he has to slow down, the opponent catches up and then hits the contest at speed so Jye is spoiled - this doesn't need to happen.
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That was particularly true last year, in recent games Amiss hasn't been hitting his leads at speed or getting his arms out in front when he has the opportunity.
Calls to trade him are a tad crazy though.
No one would be having this discussion if he was making his bloody shots. We can talk all we want about missed leads this and that whatever but at the end of the day he’s still getting 3-4 shots a game. Did a better job than Treacy or Jackson actually getting the opportunity for a shot in the last.
It’s not a skill issue. I’m sure he can kick it. He’s just so far in his head that he manages to **** it most of the time.
Sending him to Peel won’t help. But you can’t have him in the team missing the most gettable shots every week either. Everything else could stay the same but he starts making 2 easy shots a game and all is forgotten imo
It’s not a skill issue. I’m sure he can kick it. He’s just so far in his head that he manages to **** it most of the time.
Sending him to Peel won’t help. But you can’t have him in the team missing the most gettable shots every week either. Everything else could stay the same but he starts making 2 easy shots a game and all is forgotten imo
Given it seems to be purely a psychological issue, sending him back for a game will either be helpful or unhelpful, and the coaching staff and sport psych guys that deal with him would know better than the fans about which one would be best.
If he gets named this week, obviously the coaches that work with him every day think that that's the better option than sending him to the WAFL
In my view there are two things that need to happen to make a combination of Jackson, Voss, Treacy and Amiss work.
1. All four of them should never be in the forward line together. This is easily achieved by having whoever is rucking (Jackson) set up behind play to intercept when in our F50.
2. Establish clearly defined roles for each of the talls.
The below is a pretty conventional setup and works fine as long as Jackson stays out of the F50 when ALL of the other 3 are there.
HF: Reid Treacy Switkowski
FF: Amiss Voss Bolton
1. All four of them should never be in the forward line together. This is easily achieved by having whoever is rucking (Jackson) set up behind play to intercept when in our F50.
2. Establish clearly defined roles for each of the talls.
- Jackson stays out of F50 and positions to intercept opponent rebound 50's.
- Treacy is an excellent field kick and can slot them from 55. He is your traditional CHF.
- Voss is a somewhat limited player, but he is big and can take a contested mark. Accuracy a problem so he plays your traditional FF role in order to maximise his strengths and minimise his weaknesses. He is the designated blocker for Treacy and Amiss. If a lead can't be hit to either of them, he will always be there to sit under the bomb as a last resort.
- Amiss plays more like a third tall and is a more accurate kick than Voss (in theory). Amiss and Treacy should be the one making repeat leads when we are looking to enter our F50.
The below is a pretty conventional setup and works fine as long as Jackson stays out of the F50 when ALL of the other 3 are there.
HF: Reid Treacy Switkowski
FF: Amiss Voss Bolton
Taylor
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He has been leading at speed when I see him running, the kicks are just too long to him so he has to pull up short, slow down and by the time the camera has panned to the contest the opponent is flying up to him like he's barely moving.
He needs the ball put out in front of him.
He's got to put his hands out in front of him. He's hesitating and/or going for a chest mark when the ball gets kicked to him.
Nothing wrong with the way he's leading until that point.
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Seems risky to bring him in if the rumours are true.
I’d say there’s probably 10 freo players that has done what he’s done. He doesn’t seem like a culture killer for a club it’s more family for him
Yeah but they’re not doing it to the point that they’re missing multiple games and forcing their partner to move their family back home because it’s gotten so out of control
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Will be a big watch this trade period considering his partner kicked him out of home and then grabbed the kids and headed back to Perth. Either he will be in purple next season or a Victorian divorce lawyer will be very busy over Xmas.
wow what a horrible time for everybody.
Has this been reported any where?
