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[serial_thrilla]

 

[Cobbler]

Freo should just advertise.

Wanted - AFL ready small forward. Up to $1.2 million per year. Opportunity to etch your name in club history first premiership. Up to 8 year contract. Will receive look-away handballs from Reid. Must be willing to wear purple.

Do the same for a defender and winger.

Then sit back and work the phones.

Ring ring
Freo ‘Hello’
Charlie Spargo

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Charlie Spargo

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26

Ht

172cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

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11.7

3star

K

6.4

3star

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5.3

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.6

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

6.0

2star

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2.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

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0.0

1star

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0.0

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D

13.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

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6.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

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2.6

4star

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1.2

4star

‘Oh hey. I’m responding to the advertisement’
Freo ‘Charlie… Spargo? One sec…’ muffled comments ‘Charlie Spargo

9

Charlie Spargo

Age

26

Ht

172cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.7

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.3

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.6

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

G

0.0

1star

D

13.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

?’
Wallsy ‘Spargo!? Tell him he’s dreaming’

 

[wakojako]

I'd love McCreery but unfortunately I can't see us being able to lure him away from Collingwood.

Look how Hawthorn goes about it. They are very aggressive at luring players over. Mitchell is a campaigner but he is extremely driven at attaining success for his club. Every offseason he is flying interstate to lure contracted players over. McCreery is from SA so he is clearly okay with living away from home. He is a need and brings us closer to a premiership. I don't care if we fail to lure him over, I just want our team to try. They should be over in Victoria making a pitch to him. A lot of Collingwood players have voiced wanting more money so the time to strike is now. The same goes for any other player that is a need for us. We are at a disadvantage being in WA, we need to leave no stone unturned. I just don't see that level of desperation from the club for non-WA players.

 

[s_wd6]

Need a special committee who's only job is to focus on selling WA to all these Eastern guys. Plenty have never been here before we drafted them and love it. We seem entirely content on just luring WA players home and we're always going to be at a disadvantage while we're happy only doing that.

 

[Redgum]

Mitchell has only been at Hawthorn for 4 years and in that time ,its unreal what he has achieved ,firstly as a coach and secondly rebuilding the team of players he has chosen. We are still fumbling around making some gains and Longmire has been with us 5 years. Hawthorn are making inroads in this finals series after a good effort last year and could go all the way.
Hopefully we take that step next year and then I wont feel so bad

 

[go_the_dockers]

Read somewhere in finals, 20% is in the air, and 80% is ground ball.
We have a deficiency in ground ball, and keeping the ball in our forward line.
Switta is our best pressure act player, but he only plays 2 out of 3 games (injured).
Look at hawks version of Wizard, he is electric with ball, but he's also a pressure forward when he doesn't get the ball, and he's a midget.
If Jackson comes on as our next Young, and Erasmus keeps improving, I would argue Freo's biggest need is one or two pressure forwards that kick goals (Shultz)

That and more clean skills all over the field.

 

[s_wd6]

Mitchell has only been at Hawthorn for 4 years and in that time ,its unreal what he has achieved ,firstly as a coach and secondly rebuilding the team of players he has chosen. We are still fumbling around making some gains and Longmire has been with us 5 years. Hawthorn are making inroads in this finals series after a good effort last year and could go all the way.
Hopefully we take that step next year and then I wont feel so bad

He’s been at Hawks since the end of 2018 actually. He’s had influence on their direction long before he actually took over as coach. He had control of their midfield first and then became head of player development. He got a head start like 3 years before he officially Started.

Mitchell’s coaching record is 48% btw. Maybe that’s the way to go though. Bottom out for a couple years when there’s no pressure on you so you can load up on the high draft picks.

 

[Quazar2]

Now that Stephen King is named as the new Dees coach we should know within a week or two what Judd McVee plans are

All Melbourne need to do now is draft someone called "Tommy Knocker" and we're good to go!!

 

[malpaso]

Mitchell has only been at Hawthorn for 4 years and in that time ,its unreal what he has achieved ,firstly as a coach and secondly rebuilding the team of players he has chosen. We are still fumbling around making some gains and Longmire has been with us 5 years. Hawthorn are making inroads in this finals series after a good effort last year and could go all the way.
Hopefully we take that step next year and then I wont feel so bad

"fumbling around" and we don't have a coach called Longmire.

This is effectively Mitchell's 6-7th year developing that list. They also have done it differently shoring up key positions with $$ and raiding teams.
The out of the blue thing that has made them effective is Gunston's form this year. Nobody sees that coming. They are literally 40 goals better off because of his form.

 

[fnerd]

Need a special committee who's only job is to focus on selling WA to all these Eastern guys.

Isn’t that Andy and Caleb?

 

[s_wd6]

Isn’t that Andy and Caleb?

Well they’re not doing a very good job are they

 

[fnerd]

"fumbling around" and we don't have a coach called Longmire.

This is effectively Mitchell's 6-7th year developing that list. They also have done it differently shoring up key positions with $$ and raiding teams.
The out of the blue thing that has made them effective is Gunston's form this year. Nobody sees that coming. They are literally 40 goals better off because of his form.

Lol

Mitchell shits AAAAALLLL over jlo champ.
In every aspect of coaching and leading an organisation,

In a hypothetical ,if given a choice between the 2 to coach our side ,only but a few (yourself included) would choose mumbles ahead of Sammy the snake.
In fact this board alone would about

98%
2%

 

[malpaso]

Lol

Mitchell shits AAAAALLLL over jlo champ.
In every aspect of coaching and leading an organisation,

In a hypothetical ,if given a choice between the 2 to coach our side ,only but a few (yourself included) would choose mumbles ahead of Sammy the snake.
In fact this board alone would about

98%
2%

Is that why we beat them this year?

I'm not your champ either.

 

[fnerd]

Is that why we beat them this year?

I'm not your champ either.

We lost to Melbourne and the aints champ
By that rationale I guess we’re “behind” them too huh?

 

[s_wd6]

Lol

Mitchell shits AAAAALLLL over jlo champ.
In every aspect of coaching and leading an organisation,

In a hypothetical ,if given a choice between the 2 to coach our side ,only but a few (yourself included) would choose mumbles ahead of Sammy the snake.
In fact this board alone would about

98%
2%

Everyone would. Doesn’t mean he hasn’t had any easier transition into coaching and still gets all the additional advantages of a big vic team.

We won more games than them this h&a season. The difference is there but as big as your want to make it out to be

 

[malpaso]

We lost to Melbourne and the aints champ
By that rationale I guess we’re “behind” them too huh?

Your just a grass is always greener fan. You don't know anymore than any of us about coaching footy sides.

 

[malpaso]

Lol

Mitchell shits AAAAALLLL over jlo champ.
In every aspect of coaching and leading an organisation,

In a hypothetical ,if given a choice between the 2 to coach our side ,only but a few (yourself included) would choose mumbles ahead of Sammy the snake.
In fact this board alone would about

98%
2%

The thing is there is no choice and the choice is hindsight champions.

 

[fnerd]

Your just a grass is always greener fan. You don't know anymore than any of us about coaching footy sides.

Oh idk mal, you’ve been pretty clear on your thoughts on Ras and likewise mine…

Seems my views are being justified more and more as time goes on just on that one alone…..

As for jlo wellllll 3 yrs on we’re basically still not even at the same level the club was 3 years ago!

 

[malpaso]

Oh idk mal, you’ve been pretty clear on your thoughts on Ras and likewise mine…

Seems my views are being justified more and more as time goes on just on that one alone…..

As for jlo wellllll 3 yrs on we’re basically still not even at the same level the club was 3 years ago!

I don't know where you read in my posts that I said I prefer Jlo over Mitchell? Did you announce a poll or something?
Now it's got something to do with Erasmus and you rate 2022 better than 2025..
You after a medal or something?

 

[fnerd]

You after a medal or something?

I am actually , a premiership medal to be exact!!…..for a lucky 23 players at our club!

 

[thistimeforsure]

I mean that’s clearly our biggest need over everything right? I can’t think of anything else we need so desperately that we don’t have any sort of depth on the list. This off season will be a failure if we can’t cover that need.

Had to be addressed 2 off-seasons ago and at the absolute worst last year, the street parties on here about getting the last pick in the 1st Rd for Shooter the year before was some of the dumbest shit ever

Motlop may not fire here but his pressure stats are decent I believe

Butler would be good but hard to get someone with a great final under their belt out for a reasonable cost

Not sure I’ve ever seen a stat for it but HTB frees inside your FWD 50 are a decent scoring source …. especially in finals

 

[Docker82]

I mean that’s clearly our biggest need over everything right? I can’t think of anything else we need so desperately that we don’t have any sort of depth on the list. This off season will be a failure if we can’t cover that need.

Depth wise it's easily our biggest need. Reckon players 24-32 on our list and/or the best 23's ability (ie changing roles to cover injuries) to cover a normal sized injury list is good enough.

Of course they're other parts of the best 23 we'd ideally upgrade if we want to win a flag but in terms of picking an AFL standard player to play a role when a best 23 player is injured I reckon we stack up pretty well otherwise.

 

[2big2strom]

oh come on. if we are going to compare to Hawthorn can we at least be measured about it? in the last 3 off seasons they have brought in:

• Meek (F4 + O'Meara)
• Amon (UFA, free)
• Chol (F2)
• D'Ambrosio (61 + F4)
• Ginnivan (2nd rounder + F2, with picks coming back)
• Gunston, again (2nd rounder + F2)
• Barrass (F1 + F2)
• Battle (UFA, free)

So they got 8 b22 in, cost them 1 first, 5-6 2nd rounders, and some junk picks.

In the last 3 seasons we have brought in:

• Luke Jackson (1st + F1 + F2)
• Corbett (F4)
• O'Meara (Meek)
• OMac (DFA, free)
• Sharp (PSupp, free)
• Voss (PSupp, free)
• Bolton (3* 1sts + F3 with a 1st coming back, so let's say 2*1sts + F3 for brevity)

So at BEST we got 5 best 22 and 1 depth player. It cost us 4 firsts, meek, a second, a third and junk. The cost we have to pay for players is astronomical. We are never going to get UFA walking to us like Battle.

I think we have had two UFA in the last 10-15 years and they were Reece Conca

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Reece Conca

Age

33

Ht

181cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

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Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

10.8

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.6

5star

MG

228.0

3star

D

13.8

3star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.5

3star

MG

228.0

3star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

and Colin ****ing Sylvia. Any other "freebies" we have picked up has been the club willing to task a risk and use up resources (eg list spots). And I would say our astute draft selections, esp the last 3-5 years have us sitting top tier drafting & development wise. we are playing a different game entirely to the big vic clubs + nepo babies.

 

[Bender571]

Need a special committee who's only job is to focus on selling WA to all these Eastern guys. Plenty have never been here before we drafted them and love it. We seem entirely content on just luring WA players home and we're always going to be at a disadvantage while we're happy only doing that.

I don't think WA itself is much of an issue, as you said the players forced to come here seem happy enough. But when we're competing with 10 Vic clubs it's almost impossible for us to offer an eastern states player something they can't get from another club. There will always be a VIC club(s) that can offer more money, club(s) that can offer finals, club(s) that can offer opportunities, etc. On top of that that Vic clubs can offer less travel, which leads to a longer career, and some can offer more fame/exposure and a bigger crowd.

Victorian based player usually travel to WA once a year, and it's the worst/longest trip they'll have all year, so they probably say to themselves "I would hate to do that trip another 9 times a year".

This isn't to say we should give up on Victorian players, we apparently had a good crack at Bontempelli. We're not content on luring only WA players, they're just the only ones open to moving to WA.

 

[Tommo]

I don't think WA itself is much of an issue, as you said the players forced to come here seem happy enough. But when we're competing with 10 Vic clubs it's almost impossible for us to offer an eastern states player something they can't get from another club. There will always be a VIC club(s) that can offer more money, club(s) that can offer finals, club(s) that can offer opportunities, etc. On top of that that Vic clubs can offer less travel, which leads to a longer career, and some can offer more fame/exposure and a bigger crowd.

Victorian based player usually travel to WA once a year, and it's the worst/longest trip they'll have all year, so they probably say to themselves "I would hate to do that trip another 9 times a year".

This isn't to say we should give up on Victorian players, we apparently had a good crack at Bontempelli. We're not content on luring only WA players, they're just the only ones open to moving to WA.

I think the only way we were going to get Bont was if they really failed this year and they sacked Bevo. Then he’d be wondering if he could go through another rebuild. Even then his head would have more likely have been turned by a vic club.

 

[Dockeroo]

I don't think WA itself is much of an issue, as you said the players forced to come here seem happy enough. But when we're competing with 10 Vic clubs it's almost impossible for us to offer an eastern states player something they can't get from another club. There will always be a VIC club(s) that can offer more money, club(s) that can offer finals, club(s) that can offer opportunities, etc. On top of that that Vic clubs can offer less travel, which leads to a longer career, and some can offer more fame/exposure and a bigger crowd.

Victorian based player usually travel to WA once a year, and it's the worst/longest trip they'll have all year, so they probably say to themselves "I would hate to do that trip another 9 times a year".

This isn't to say we should give up on Victorian players, we apparently had a good crack at Bontempelli. We're not content on luring only WA players, they're just the only ones open to moving to WA.

Has to be a wind-up that Bont was seriously ever coming over here? I thought that was just a joke.
Players of that ilk from Victoria don’t leave Melbourne in trades. Unless we were to offer him $2.5m a year or something but then what would be the point