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Its understood West Coast promised they won't interfere with us getting chad warner.
 
Chris25 As the resident draft expert, do you think this draft is a unique case where the pick swap as currently reported makes more sense than usual? Or is it still as bad as it seems on paper?

It’s a pretty underwhelming draft. Moving our first back doesn’t really bother me.
 

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Even if the trade sits as it is and we don’t get anything more, doesn’t feel like it’s the trade we need to melt about. We obviously don’t rate this draft.
Doesn’t matter. You can not rate the draft AND trade away those picks for some benefit.

As it stands, we’ve given away 33,44,50 for NO return.
 

This is how it looks, as per Cal Twomey (AFL.com.au), Ryan Daniels (Seven) and others:

  • West Coast IN: Brandon Starcevich, picks 12, 33, 52 OUT: Picks 16, 22, 23
  • Fremantle IN: Judd McVee, picks 19, 46 OUT: Picks 12, 33, 44, 50
  • Brisbane IN: Picks 16, 22, 44, 50 OUT: Brandon Starcevich, Picks 19, 46, 52
  • Melbourne IN: Pick 23 OUT: Judd McVee
We'll go through the deal club by club through the morning, but what I would say is it looks about as fair and even a deal as you get. No obvious winners, no obvious losers, everyone gets a bit of what they want and can now push on with the rest of their dealings.

Last line in bold is a bit different to the commentary in this thread? haha
 

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Last line in bold is a bit different to the commentary in this thread? haha
Ill wait until next wed before judging the trade. Walls might be cooking something else
Mcvee for 23 is bout right
 

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Alright, tin foil hat time.

Brisbane werent going to pay Allen enough to trigger band one unless WC ponied up for Starcevich.

West Coast said "ok Freo, Brisbane aren't going to pay Allen enough for band 1 so we're going to have two end of first round picks, we value McVee higher than one of those and we can front load a deal to him upwards of a million bucks next year. Or you could help us net Starc and our band 1 pick?"

In this case, if we have any doubts on Simpson at half back, then McVee is a must for us next year and I'm ok with us doing this trade.
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What’s crazier is 33, 46 & 50 are right in Wallsy’s hitting zone, first time in his life he’s looked at dessert and said no thanks (it’s a low blow I know, firmly tounge in cheek comment)

I’m not sure Wallsy’s drafting is all that great after pick 40. Aside from Tracey in the COVID affected ‘20 draft his success rate is pretty ordinary.

Walker, Western, Tracey, Benning, Worner, Emmett, Knobel, Wagner, Reidy, Murphy, Delean, Jones, Carr, Riddle.

Treacy and a couple of borderline best 22 players. The rest are already delisted or haven’t played a game.
 
I’m not sure Wallsy’s drafting is all that great after pick 40. Aside from Tracey in the COVID affected ‘20 draft his success rate is pretty ordinary.

Walker, Western, Tracey, Benning, Worner, Emmett, Knobel, Wagner, Reidy, Murphy, Delean, Jones, Carr, Riddle.

Treacy and a couple of borderline best 22 players. The rest are already delisted or haven’t played a game.

Voss and Dudley can be added as train on players.

I think that is decent for picks after 40.
 
Alright, tin foil hat time.

Brisbane werent going to pay Allen enough to trigger band one unless WC ponied up for Starcevich.

West Coast said "ok Freo, Brisbane aren't going to pay Allen enough for band 1 so we're going to have two end of first round picks, we value McVee higher than one of those and we can front load a deal to him upwards of a million bucks next year. Or you could help us net Starc and our band 1 pick?"

In this case, if we have any doubts on Simpson at half back, then McVee is a must for us next year and I'm ok with us doing this trade.
I think this is spot on Brisbane add money to Allen contract to get pick 2 for WC.

WC pay overs for Starcevich for extra $ to Allen.

Freo pay overs to make sure WC don’t pursue McVee.
 
I think this is spot on Brisbane add money to Allen contract to get pick 2 for WC.

WC pay overs for Starcevich for extra $ to Allen.

Freo pay overs to make sure WC don’t pursue McVee.
WC already pursued McVee and he turned them down. It’s an empty threat there and the WA clubs just end up ****ing each other over by doing that and make us pay a premium for every player who wants to return while Geelong get theirs for picks in the 20s at most:
 

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