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The bedwetting going on in this thread is despicable!
If we stop now, we still have plenty of time to wash and dry the sheets, ready to start fresh next Saturday.
 
In finals it’s a different game

We have rarely played Hawthorn in finals ( I believe we are 2-1 with the last two being wins…the 2011 prelim and before that the famous 1977 second semi where Carman got suspended and missed two grand finals)

Never met in a GF

The Hawks don’t own us. Even this season we are 1-1
We are 2-3

1974 SF L
1977 SF W
1978 QF L
2011 PF W
2012 QF L

Amazing we’ve never met in a GF given how successful both clubs have been.
 

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We are 2-3

1974 SF L
1977 SF W
1978 QF L
2011 PF W
2012 QF L

Amazing we’ve never met in a GF given how successful both clubs have been.
Thanks. I think I read somewhere that Collingwood and hawthorn collectively have played in about half the grand finals ever. To not ever meet in one of them is astonishing.

Interestingly only 1978 ended up in a premiership.
 
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You're disrespecting other teams badly.

It's obvious if Pies play their best they can beat anyone.
But so could Hawks....

In fact, anyone in the top 9 could beat the other if they played their best.

The fact is... it's more likely that only one team will get to play their best in the Grand Final...
How have I been disrespectful?
 
So Rankine is suspended till round 2, or the other multitude of round numbers it could be?

Must not go to Crom board & mention something about straight sets.

Artificial rivalry coming up.

We boo you because our player said something homophobic!
Well at least we know who the AFL will fixture us to be playing away at in Round 2 next year!
 

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6 years in a row a top 4 side has gone out in straight sets.
That pre finals bye has definitely taken a lot of advantages away
And being generous and assuming the chances of the QF loser's winning their home semi is 50%, 0.50^6 = 1.56% chance that happens every single year over 6 years. Not a coincidence.
 
Thanks. I think I read somewhere that Collingwood and hawthorn collectively have played in about half the grand finals ever. To not ever meet in one of them is astonishing.

Interestingly only 1978 ended up in a premiership.

Hawthorn have played in about 20 GFs, for 13 wins. We’ve played in (I think) 45 GFs, for 16 wins.

Leaving aside the glaringly obvious fact of our underperforming in comparison to the Hawks, the two clubs have separately played in about 65 GFs, which is close to half of all GFs ever played. Further, Hawthorn’s first GF was in 1961.

It’s not a stat I’ve heard before, and it’s both surprising and sobering.
 
The AFL will naturally fixture us and Adelaide conveniently for Rankine's return match, whenever that may be.
Like they did for us and Port this year when Houston came back from suspension.
 

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The AFL will naturally fixture us and Adelaide conveniently for Rankine's return match, whenever that may be.
I agree about the sentiment, but don't think they will do it with the gather round just around the corner.

It would be unfair for us to have to travel to Adelaide twice in the span of few weeks.

We are also due to play port Adelaide at the AO , it has been almost 2 years since we last played them at AO, that is if we follow the recent scheduling pattern of the last 6 games between port and collingwood.
It has gone AO,MCG,MCG,AO,MCG,MCG.

So scheduling the rankine grudge match won't be that easy.

That being said they probably won't want to miss out on doubling us up against the crows , so we probably will get port at the MCG again, which is a good thing as we have smashed them there in recent times.
 
I agree re the achievement. It’s the finals performance I was critical of - and not just the team but also the club in how they went about it. A lot to learn from the clubs who know what to do in finals.

Separately, but related, I found it interesting the way Fly talked about finals this year. He kept emphasising the different seasons of footy, starting the season again in September, etc etc. While some were critical of him for emphasising that we’d qualified - was it after 14 wins? - he kept this messaging up all year. The difference between the H & A season, and the finals.

The Crows, in contrast, and now in hindsight, seemed to have missed this point.

I think they had a perfect 10 months followed by a what was a disaster for them in footy terms when Rankine ****ed up. Rankine out for them is even more disastrous than a Nick Daicos injury would be for us. They were no chance without him.

They didn't handle the disaster well. And tbh I don't think they understand the issue. I was shocked by their statement when his suspension was handed down - pointing out that he'd apologised to IQ but nothing about the broader community or the broader issue of discrimination in Australian sport. They seemed to think that it is all about a footballer saying a particularly mean thing to another footballer.

Adelaide footy departments are always in a tough position though. They're like Carlton. Their fans just assume success and blame those at the top when it doesn't automatically occur. Nicks is as unpopular as Kenny was. And the footy department was told they were gone if they didn't make finals. Now that they did make finals, the fans just expect a flag, even though they went into the finals with 4/5ths of their frontline midfield being ROB, Peatling, Berry and Soligo. They were so ordinary in the midfield that they had to call on Rory Laird. That's just not going to get it done.
 
I think in the end, Adelaide were the worst finals team.

Seeding really worked out well for us. We got the 2nd best matchup (Crows at home would have been best). Now we have two weeks to show where we belong.
 
Hawthorn have played in about 20 GFs, for 13 wins. We’ve played in (I think) 45 GFs, for 16 wins.

Leaving aside the glaringly obvious fact of our underperforming in comparison to the Hawks, the two clubs have separately played in about 65 GFs, which is close to half of all GFs ever played. Further, Hawthorn’s first GF was in 1961.

It’s not a stat I’ve heard before, and it’s both surprising and sobering.
Since 1955, the pies have playing in 19GF same amount as the Hawthorn, We have won 4 and lost 15.
WHY? Collingwood does not kick a score in the second half of Grand Finals, when it counts. Teams are always in with a chance.
5 of those losses were 10 points and under. Let that sink in.
In 2023, we only kick 3 goals (3.9) in the second half (Yes we missed a lot of shots), In 1990 4 goals (4.2).


We average just over 1 goal in the last quarter of Grand Finals, Yes there are a few exceptions in that stat, but the reason we keep losing is we do not kick a score, In fact we have had 3 GF were we failed to kick a goal in the last, 2011, 1981, 1958 and 6 times were we have only kicked 1 goal in the last quarter of a GF, 2002,1977, 1970, 1960, 1956 & 1955

Pies supporters might say, hey but that was over 50 years ago, let me ask you all this question, Why does history keep repeating itself for this club.
On the other hand the Hawks have won the majority of thier GF's because they have kicked a winning score in the second half of GF's.
Our winning GF percentage is 37.78% only better than St.kilda's with 18.75% (1 win in 8 GF appearances)

If we make it in 2025 and likely play the Cats, We can't have 2-4 goal second halves in the GF and expect to win.

GO PIES.
 
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